Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On 3/1/2019 7:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: You might be interested by this quite remarkable news: a 8 letters synthetic DNA, which seems to work well. If that is true, it really suggests that we all come from one bacteria, I think. It is amazing that all life use only the same 4 letters

Re: HoTT: The programing language of space

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 3:19:21 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 3:09:23 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> The question is whether HoTT is also the language of entanglement. >> >> LC >> > > > > All "entanglement" is is a path integral [ >

Re: Are there real numbers that cannot be defined?

There are numbers that have no description in a practical sense. The numbers 10^{10^{10^{10}}} and 10^{10^{10^{10^{10 have a vast number of numbers that have no description with any information theoretic sense. This is even if all the particles in the some 10^{500}cosmologies in the

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 2:36:06 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 3/1/2019 7:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Feb 2019, at 22:47, Brent Meeker > > wrote: > > > > On 2/28/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > The best current philosopher of (and writer about) consciousness is

Re: Are there real numbers that cannot be defined?

I think the interesting question is what does the function on natural numbers n → shortestDescriptionOf(n)/n look like. - pt On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 3:22:59 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > There are numbers that have no description in a practical sense. The > numbers

Re: Are there real numbers that cannot be defined?

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 3/1/2019 1:44 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > I think the interesting question is what does the function on natural > numbers > > n → shortestDescriptionOf(n)/n > > look like. > > > That's not even a function since

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On 3/1/2019 7:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 Feb 2019, at 22:47, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 2/28/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: The best current philosopher of (and writer about) consciousness is *Galen Strawson*.

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On 3/1/2019 7:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The “minimal” consciousness require only a weak notion of self. It does not require memory, nor any sense. It is a highly dissociated state of consciousness. It is quite different from the usual mundane consciousness of the everyday life. How

Re: HoTT: The programing language of space

The question is whether HoTT is also the language of entanglement. LC On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 3:15:34 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > HoTT (Homotopy Type Theory) is re-expressed here as a programming language > to encode mathematics. > > > [ >

Re: HoTT: The programing language of space

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 3:09:23 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > The question is whether HoTT is also the language of entanglement. > > LC > All "entanglement" is is a path integral [ https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/path+integral ] so it should. - pt > > On Thursday, February 21,

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

> On 1 Mar 2019, at 00:15, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/28/2019 3:00 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 4:34:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-6,

Re: Are there real numbers that cannot be defined?

On 3/1/2019 1:44 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: I think the interesting question is what does the function on natural numbers       n → shortestDescriptionOf(n)/n look like. That's not even a function since ShortestDescriptionOf (n) depends on the notation for the description and different

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

> On 1 Mar 2019, at 09:28, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 2:05:03 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 5:15:17 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 2/28/2019 3:00 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at

Re: HoTT: The programing language of space

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 3:19:21 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 3:09:23 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> The question is whether HoTT is also the language of entanglement. >> >> LC >> > > > > All "entanglement" is is a path integral [ >

Re: Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 8:49:54 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Mar 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:42:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 25 Feb 2019, at 12:39, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> On Monday, February 25,

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 9:08:43 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Feb 2019, at 22:47, Brent Meeker > > wrote: > > > > On 2/28/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > The best current philosopher of (and writer about) consciousness is *Galen > Strawson*. > >

Re: Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 8:53:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Mar 2019, at 09:20, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 6:42:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:42:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>

Re: Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 8:49:54 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Mar 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:42:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 25 Feb 2019, at 12:39, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> On Monday, February

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 12:09:27 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/28/2019 4:07 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 8:10:16 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/27/2019 4:58 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> *Are you assuming uniqueness

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 6:25:05 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Mar 2019, at 00:15, Brent Meeker > > wrote: > > > > On 2/28/2019 3:00 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 4:34:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Philip Thrift

Re: Are there real numbers that cannot be defined?

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 7:02:20 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 4:13:00 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/1/2019 1:44 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> I think the interesting question is what does the function on natural >> numbers >> >> n

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 6:25:05 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Mar 2019, at 09:28, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 2:05:03 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 5:15:17 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 5:15:17 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/28/2019 3:00 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 4:34:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at

Re: Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 6:42:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:42:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 25 Feb 2019, at 12:39, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 2:44:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 2:05:03 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 5:15:17 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/28/2019 3:00 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 4:34:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 21:32, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/28/2019 10:35 AM, Azutmai wrote: >> Brent . . . it might be helpful to equate the word ‘consciousness’ and >> ‘awareness.’ If we are conscious or aware of something . . . then it >> pertains to our viewpoint and lifestyle. > > I

Re: Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

> On 1 Mar 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:42:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 25 Feb 2019, at 12:39, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 2:44:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 24 Feb

Re: Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

> On 1 Mar 2019, at 09:20, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 6:42:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:42:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 25 Feb 2019, at 12:39, Lawrence Crowell > >> wrote: >> >> On Monday,

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 19:35, Azutmai wrote: > > Brent . . . it might be helpful to equate the word ‘consciousness’ and > ‘awareness.’ Yes. We can at some point add nuance, but as long as we don’t use the nuance, it is better to not make things complex for no reason. > If we are conscious

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 22:47, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/28/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> The best current philosopher of (and writer about) consciousness is Galen >> Strawson. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen_Strawson >>