RE: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback

2014-03-30 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:37 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback If my joke works at all, it needs you to take that

Re: Scott Aaronson vs. Max Tegmark

2014-03-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 Mar 2014, at 10:24, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 29 March 2014 19:27, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 28 Mar 2014, at 23:41, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 29 March 2014 03:24, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 27 Mar 2014, at 18:21, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

Re: Climate models

2014-03-30 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, exactly, if we assume that there will be no bad consequences if continue to pump out pollution, we are indeed betting out lives You're assuming that the safe and conservative thing to do is to immediately and radically cut

Re: Climate models

2014-03-30 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 1:11 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Back in 2007 the United Nations issued a report on climate change, it said that by 2100 things would be between 2 and 4.5 degrees warmer than now, a rather large amount of uncertainty; but after spending millions of dollars

Re: Climate models

2014-03-30 Thread spudboy100
The economist Tol, from the Netherlands, resigned a few days ago, objecting to the latest IPCC update exaggerating the negative impacts of GW. He is merely an economist and not a climate scientist, but I suspect he has nothing to lose telling the truth. If IPCC/UN was talking ground truth,

Re: Climate models

2014-03-30 Thread LizR
On 31 March 2014 04:18, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, exactly, if we assume that there will be no bad consequences if continue to pump out pollution, we are indeed betting out lives You're assuming that the safe

Re: Climate models

2014-03-30 Thread LizR
On 31 March 2014 04:27, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 1:11 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Back in 2007 the United Nations issued a report on climate change, it said that by 2100 things would be between 2 and 4.5 degrees warmer than now, a rather

Re: Climate models

2014-03-30 Thread LizR
Oh, OK, almost said :-) (But he should have!) What he actually said was something like We can design a system that is proof against accident and stupidity, but not one that is proof against deliberate malice. But I prefer my version TBH. On 31 March 2014 10:00, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: Climate models

2014-03-30 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:19 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Climate models On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, exactly,

Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback

2014-03-30 Thread Russell Standish
Ah, I didn't realise it was a joke. I guess it must be a dig at commitment-phobia, but I can't seem to twist it into something funny. Nevermind. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 02:36:39PM +1300, LizR wrote: If my joke works at all, it needs you to take that quoted line out of context. (If I understand

Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback

2014-03-30 Thread LizR
On 30 March 2014 17:43, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: Ah, I didn't realise it was a joke. I guess it must be a dig at commitment-phobia, but I can't seem to twist it into something funny. Sorry. I will try harder next time. -- You received this message because you are

My model re Comp and Life re the Everything

2014-03-30 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi everyone: I am currently interested in two questions: Does my model of why there are dynamic universes within the Everything [latest version is below] include Bruno's Comp? Hi Bruno. If life is inherently self destructive under any reasonable definition of life [see some of my recent

roots of polynomials

2014-03-30 Thread meekerdb
For those who enjoyed the tour into the Mandelbrot set, there's also: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week285.html Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: Climate models

2014-03-30 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:33:55 PM UTC+1, cdemorsella wrote: *From:* everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *John Clark *Sent:* Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:19 AM *To:* everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:*

Re: roots of polynomials

2014-03-30 Thread LizR
I love the pictures. The maths is, as ever, daunting. On 31 March 2014 12:22, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: For those who enjoyed the tour into the Mandelbrot set, there's also: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week285.html Brent -- You received this message because you are

Re: Max and FPI

2014-03-30 Thread ghibbsa
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:01:04 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Mar 2014, at 05:48, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Monday, March 24, 2014 4:48:13 AM UTC, chris peck wrote: The only person in any doubt was you wasn't it Liz? I found Tegmark's presentation very

Re: Max and FPI

2014-03-30 Thread LizR
I'm not sure collapse is an observed fact. Collapse is an assumption which explains how we come to measure discrete values. On 31 March 2014 16:27, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:01:04 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Mar 2014, at 05:48, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: roots of polynomials

2014-03-30 Thread Chris de Morsella
Looked at them as well. so much emergent complexity from such simple initial conditions and equations. Beautiful haunting images. From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:15 PM To: