Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

2017-06-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 08:52:15AM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 26/06/2017 3:57 pm, Russell Standish wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:50:45AM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >>That is not what is normally meant by the '+' symbol. You have > >>simply defined a conjunction to be a disjunction!

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

2017-06-26 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
For me, what needs to be established, is can we ever 'transact' with sister universes, in a true way? Being nicely pessimistic for the moment, let us shout "Hell No!" Thus, the discussion becomes wonderful for readers of fantasy and scifi, but unimportant as in boring, for people who want to

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

2017-06-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 26/06/2017 3:57 pm, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:50:45AM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: That is not what is normally meant by the '+' symbol. You have simply defined a conjunction to be a disjunction! We are constructively defining +. I would not be so cruel as to use +

Re: What lead to free-will denial?

2017-06-26 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > I think free-will is a key concept ​"Free will" is not a key concept, it's not even a trivial concept, its a sequence of letters that lots of people on the internet like to type and nothing more. John K Clark​

Re: What lead to free-will denial?

2017-06-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Jun 2017, at 09:08, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 at 2:42 pm, Adrian Chira wrote: A discussion of what contributed to free-will denial: Is Free Will an Illusion? Part 1 - The Origins of Free-Will Denial. -- I await Part 2. My response to Part

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

2017-06-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Jun 2017, at 03:50, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 26/06/2017 2:14 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: Keep in mind that to refute Mechanism (in cognitive science), it is not enough to show that a piece of matter is not Turing emulable. You need mainly to show that its behavior is not retrievable from

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

2017-06-26 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Russell Standish wrote: ​> ​ > I've started with a different set of metaphysical assumptions, > ​ ​ > namely that we live in a Multiverse, ​Do you assume the number of universes are ​ denumerable ​? ​ > ​> ​ > and that observer moments