Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 12/07/2017 12:42 pm, Russell Standish wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:00:40PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: Well, if that is what it is supposed to imply, then John might well be right to have problems with it! As I have said before, there is no analogy between step 3 and quantum many worlds

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:00:40PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > Well, if that is what it is supposed to imply, then John might well > be right to have problems with it! As I have said before, there is > no analogy between step 3 and quantum many worlds -- the differences > far outweigh any

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 12/07/2017 11:25 am, Russell Standish wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 03:04:13PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 11/07/2017 2:12 pm, Russell Standish wrote: You're still missing the point. The quantum reality is a 1p thing, it is the observed phenomenal physics. Substrate independence is a 3p

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 03:04:13PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 11/07/2017 2:12 pm, Russell Standish wrote: > >You're still missing the point. The quantum reality is a 1p thing, it > >is the observed phenomenal physics. Substrate independence is a 3p > >thing, and may be quantum, classical or

Re: Re: Lawrence Krauss Should Have Paid Attention to Vic

Ok, looking forward to reading it. Thanks! Telmo. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > "The Comprehensible Cosmos" is one that is just about the structure of > physics and one I like best. "The Fallacy of Fine Tuning" primarily debunks > theists who try

Re: Lawrence Krauss Should Have Paid Attention to Vic

Thanks Bruno! Best, Telmo. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > Hi Telmo, > > On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:26, Telmo Menezes wrote (to Brent): > >> Hi Brent, >> >> Which book by Vic would you recommend one to read first? > > > I let Brent answer this, but I have

Re: Lawrence Krauss Should Have Paid Attention to Vic

Hi Telmo, On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:26, Telmo Menezes wrote (to Brent): Hi Brent, Which book by Vic would you recommend one to read first? I let Brent answer this, but I have to say that his book "A comprehensible cosmos" is *very* good. I enjoyed it a lot, and it shows that a lot of

Re: Lawrence Krauss Should Have Paid Attention to Vic

On 11 Jul 2017, at 05:22, Brent Meeker wrote: Interesting essay. When I was helping edit Vic's books I made a similar argument too him - that the reason his Point-of-View- Invariance seemed so powerful in rederiving physics is that physicist were only interested in things that obeyed

Re: Lawrence Krauss Should Have Paid Attention to Vic

Hi Brent, Which book by Vic would you recommend one to read first? Cheers, Telmo. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 5:22 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > Interesting essay. When I was helping edit Vic's books I made a similar > argument too him - that the reason his

Re: What lead to free-will denial?

On 10 Jul 2017, at 23:11, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​I am just saying that universal machine can differ fro their beliefs, and that it is a better identity criteria, ​If you have a better way of identifying the beliefs

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 10 Jul 2017, at 14:29, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 10/07/2017 9:34 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Jul 2017, at 03:41, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 7/07/2017 7:19 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Jul 2017, at 01:52, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 7/07/2017 12:50 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Jul 2017,