Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

2019-02-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/12/2019 5:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: If we could knew which machine we are, we could define consciousness, or at least our personal current consciousness, as it would be defined by the combinator realising us. But that is impossible, and it defines only mechanism and the choice we

Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

2019-02-13 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Two fascinating (and very different) approaches are presented to derive Quantim Mechanics main practical tool (e.g. Born's rule). Wonder what some of the physicists on here think about this research? I find the argument that no laws is the fundamental law... and that the universe and its laws

Algorithm splitting as reason for Quantum Collapse

2019-02-13 Thread James Coons
If we are algorithms executed by duplicated brains in a multiverse, is it possible that algorithm splitting is the reason for quantum mechanics. It seems like a simple explaination. If so then quantum interference takes place within a duplicated algorithm. Does this make any sense? -- You

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

2019-02-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Feb 2019, at 19:13, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/11/2019 7:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 11 Feb 2019, at 01:24, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/10/2019 3:34 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: Two recent books: The First Minds: Caterpillars, Karyotes,

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

2019-02-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Feb 2019, at 19:31, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 9:24:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 11 Feb 2019, at 00:34, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Two recent books: >> >> The First Minds: Caterpillars, Karyotes, and Consciousness >>

Re: When Did Consciousness Begin?

2019-02-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Feb 2019, at 19:47, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 9:56:12 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 11 Feb 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> I do not hold to the idea of panpsychism > > Nor do I. > > > > Panpsychism > >

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 9 Feb 2019, at 10:22, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:53:01 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> As I have said, I am language-oriented. What this means is that I say that >> science (from that