Re: Consciousness/Intelligence (was Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I have long thought that I perceive, however wrongly, the birth of new species by combining with La Machine. For one, it beats the hell out of early death, that all flesh is now heir to. Secondly, it would give us all super powers. Think, Iron Man suit, Batman power suit, Mighty Morphin Power

Re: Consciousness/Intelligence (was Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/23/2017 12:48 PM, Hans Moravec wrote: On 170223, at 3:23 PM, Brent Meeker > wrote: John McCarthy warned many years ago that we should be careful not to create robots that had general intelligence, lest we inadvertently create

Re: Consciousness/Intelligence (was Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Hans Moravec
> On 170223, at 3:23 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > >>> John McCarthy warned many years ago that we should be careful not to create >>> robots that had general intelligence, lest we inadvertently create >>> conscious beings to whom we would have ethical obligations. >> >>

Re: Consciousness/Intelligence (was Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/23/2017 12:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Feb 2017, at 20:52, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/20/2017 7:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 1:19 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 Telmo Menezes wrote: Dark

Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/23/2017 6:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 22 Feb 2017, at 01:08, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/21/2017 11:03 AM, John Mikes wrote: Brent: do you think we are that sure how to identify /intelligence and consciousness? / */_Intelligence _ (inter-lego)/* *__I identify from the linguistic

Re: Consciousness (was Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/23/2017 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Feb 2017, at 16:33, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 1:19 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 Telmo Menezes wrote: Dark Matter and Dark Energy remain complete

Re: Consciousness/Intelligence (was Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/23/2017 1:43 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I have long thought that I perceive, however wrongly, the birth of new species by combining with La Machine. For one, it beats the hell out of early death, that all flesh is now heir to. Secondly, it would give us all super

Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Feb 2017, at 01:08, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/21/2017 11:03 AM, John Mikes wrote: Brent: do you think we are that sure how to identify intelligence and consciousness? Intelligence (inter-lego) I identify from the linguistic origin (Latin) as READING BETWEEN THE (properly)

Consciousness (was Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Feb 2017, at 16:33, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 1:19 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 Telmo Menezes wrote: Dark Matter and Dark Energy remain complete mysteries. As far as I can tell, what we have is

Consciousness/Intelligence (was Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Feb 2017, at 20:52, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/20/2017 7:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 1:19 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 Telmo Menezes wrote: Dark Matter and Dark Energy remain complete mysteries.

Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Feb 2017, at 01:19, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 Telmo Menezes wrote: >​>​ Dark Matter and Dark Energy remain complete mysteries. ​> ​As far as I can tell, what we have is a falsification of current theories. They appear to be good enough