Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 1:40 PM, David Nyman wrote: ​ >> ​> ​ >> And I've been questioning, this is the fourth time, which word or words >> don't you understand.​ >> > > ​It is tedious to ask you again to reconsider your use of words ​about > whose application we clearly

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread David Nyman
On 28 May 2017 at 18:10, John Clark wrote: > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 6:51 AM, David Nyman > wrote: > > ​>> ​ >> ​I ask again, which word didn't you understand?​ >> >> >> >> ​> ​ >> I've been questioning the implicit commitments that your wording >>

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > you introduce an ambiguity by eliminating the "1p" precision. [...] You > eliminate the FPI by eliminating the subject. ​But you've completely forgotten ​IHA. ​ John K Clark​ -- You received this message

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 6:51 AM, David Nyman wrote: ​>> ​ > ​I ask again, which word didn't you understand?​ > > > > ​> ​ > I've been questioning the implicit commitments that your wording conceals. > ​And I've been questioning, this is the fourth time, which word or

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 May 2017, at 17:02, John Clark wrote: Due to the impenetrable tangle of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes ​of quotes ​that is epidemic on​ ​this list there is no way to tell who but​ ​somebody wrote: ​"​The point is to recognise that at a certain stage it is no longer

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread David Nyman
On 28 May 2017 2:09 a.m., "John Clark" wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2017 David Nyman wrote: ​> >> ​>​ >> ​ >> Data feels something? >> > > ​ > ​> ​ > Yes.​ > > > >> ​ >> ​> >> ​>>​ >> ​ >> Data feels something in a way?​ >> > > ​ > ​> ​ > Yes.​ > > > Ah,

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 27, 2017 David Nyman wrote: ​> >> ​>​ >> ​ >> Data feels something? >> > > ​ > ​> ​ > Yes.​ > > > >> ​ >> ​> >> ​>>​ >> ​ >> Data feels something in a way?​ >> > > ​ > ​> ​ > Yes.​ > > > Ah, now I see what you mean. Proof by repetitive assertion. > ​I'm glad

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread David Nyman
On 28 May 2017 12:36 a.m., "John Clark" wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:18 PM, David Nyman wrote: ​​> > >> What is >> ​actually ​ >> being claimed is that consciousness is the way data feels when it is >> being processed >> ​. >> > > ​> ​ > Data

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:18 PM, David Nyman wrote: ​​> > >> What is >> ​actually ​ >> being claimed is that consciousness is the way data feels when it is >> being processed >> ​. >> > > ​> ​ > Data feels something? > ​Yes.​ > ​ > ​> ​ > Data feels something in a way?​

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread David Nyman
On 27 May 2017 at 21:20, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2017 David Nyman wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> it is unscientific to ignore alternative modes of explanation when >> progress seems to be blocked >> > > ​Those ​ > alternative modes of explanation

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 27, 2017 David Nyman wrote: > ​> ​ > it is unscientific to ignore alternative modes of explanation when > progress seems to be blocked > ​Those ​ alternative modes of explanation ​ are not only ​ unscientific ​ there are a complete waste of time because there

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread David Nyman
On 27 May 2017 at 16:02, John Clark wrote: > Due to the impenetrable tangle of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes > ​of quotes ​ > that is epidemic on > ​ ​ > this list there is no way to tell who but > ​ ​ > somebody wrote: > > *​"​The point is to recognise that at a