On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:04:24 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Install a
printer that uses a print server under win2000 or XP.
even better, make it a Lexmark...
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HaywireMac
Registered Linux user #282046
Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 22:24, Frankie wrote:
I think many many people got started on Redhat because it came bundled with
dozens of linux in 24 hours, linux for dummies etc, type books..
I'd really love to see mandrake in those books, I wonder what they'd have
to do to get that sort of
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 1:11 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Monday 22 September 2003 09:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 2:33 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
BTW, from what I read elsewhere, I doubt that your
mother/grandmother would be able to install any breed of
Windows
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:35 +0800
Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think many many people got started on Redhat because it came
bundled with dozens of linux in 24 hours, linux for dummies
etc, type books..
I'd really love to see mandrake in those books, I wonder what
they'd have to do
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 02:39, Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:35 +0800
Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think many many people got started on Redhat because it came
bundled with dozens of linux in 24 hours, linux for dummies
etc, type books..
I'd really love to see
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 09:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Monday 22 September 2003 07:52 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
whack
That having been said, I still don't see this as being applicable to the
discussion. Unless we are suggesting that Mandrake Linux is installable
and configurable by an
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 11:19, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 09:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Monday 22 September 2003 07:52 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
whack
That having been said, I still don't see this as being applicable to the
discussion. Unless we are suggesting
On September 1993 plus 3674 days James Sparenberg wrote:
Anytime anyone says how easy windows is I give them one of two
assignments. Setup networking,(win98,ME) or even more fun. Install a
printer that uses a print server under win2000 or XP.
Nah! much more fun...install a network card
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 17:16, Vox wrote:
On September 1993 plus 3674 days James Sparenberg wrote:
Anytime anyone says how easy windows is I give them one of two
assignments. Setup networking,(win98,ME) or even more fun. Install a
printer that uses a print server under win2000 or XP.
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September 23, 2003 08:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 17:16, Vox wrote:
On September 1993 plus 3674 days James Sparenberg wrote:
Anytime anyone says how easy windows is I give them one of two
assignments. Setup
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 21:22, Jason Greenwood wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Like you, I only just picked up on this thread. However, playing devil's
advocate here, I'd say that RH figures they have enough market
penetration and recognition to drop the costly retail sector. However, 2
things spring
Carroll Grigsby schrieb am Sat, 20 Sep 2003 23:31:51 -0400:
9.2 is supposed to go final RSN (Monday?), but neither the Mandrake
home page nor the Mandrake Store have any mention about accepting
orders for it. There's a thread on the Club Forum about this (and yes,
I did add my two cents
On Monday 22 September 2003 12:16 am, Vincent Danen wrote:
I really have nothing to add to this thread other than one thought (I'm
taking a back seat in this one... it's not worth it for me to open my mouth
since I'm not in marketing... I've also only begun to read the thread for
moderator
On Monday 22 September 2003 07:52 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
whack
That having been said, I still don't see this as being applicable to the
discussion. Unless we are suggesting that Mandrake Linux is installable
and configurable by an unsophisticated user who would be the person most
likely
On Monday 22 September 2003 05:25 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
Carroll Grigsby schrieb am Sat, 20 Sep 2003 23:31:51 -0400:
9.2 is supposed to go final RSN (Monday?), but neither the Mandrake
home page nor the Mandrake Store have any mention about accepting
orders for it. There's a thread on
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 2:33 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
BTW, from what I read elsewhere, I doubt that your
mother/grandmother would be able to install any breed of Windows
without some serious problems, let alone all of the other apps that
are needed before Windows can do anything useful.
--
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 2:33 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
BTW, from what I read elsewhere, I doubt that your
mother/grandmother would be able to install any breed of Windows
without some serious problems, let alone all of the other apps that
On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 11:36:13PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
Like you, I only just picked up on this thread. However, playing devil's
advocate here, I'd say that RH figures they have enough market
penetration and recognition to drop the costly retail sector. However, 2
things
el Sun September 21 2003 8:11 pm, HaywireMac escribió:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:39:31 -0600
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
This isn't usenet. The above comments are not appropriate for this
forum. You may disagree with what he had to say, and that's fine,
but to use that language
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:08:23 -0400
Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Yes, you are.
ya, ya, I know.
He did not call them chattering monkeys, he referred to the anecdote
that a million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million
years might one day produce a work similar to one
On Monday 22 September 2003 09:33 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
BTW, from what I read elsewhere, I doubt that your mother/grandmother would
be able to install any breed of Windows without some serious problems, let
alone all of the other apps that are needed before Windows can do anything
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 08:45, Vincent Danen wrote:
One side,
This statement by RH was made before the release of 9 9 is in
the stores all that was dropped was the less profitable high end boxed
sets. (those costing $100.00 US +) the lower end boxed sets are still
on the
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 07:18, Patricia Fraser wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 2:33 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
BTW, from what I read elsewhere, I doubt that your
mother/grandmother would be able to install any breed of Windows
without some
On Mon Sep 22, 2003 at 10:11:37AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
One side,
This statement by RH was made before the release of 9 9 is in
the stores all that was dropped was the less profitable high end boxed
sets. (those costing $100.00 US +) the lower end boxed sets are
On Monday 22 September 2003 01:14 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
Old enough to be a grandpa, Young enough to have a 3 year old *grin*
James
8-)
Heaven forbid my 12 yr old makes me a grandparent but I do have a 19 month old
baby girl! :-)
--
On Monday 22 September 2003 02:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
Here's an idea tho... I was recently in a local bookstore that caters to
*NIX junkies and saw some Yellowdog packages there. The cool thing is,
tho, that they came in a regular DVD case, just like a movie. I'm
wondering if there is
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September 22, 2003 12:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
On Mon Sep 22, 2003 at 10:11:37AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
One side,
This statement by RH was made before the release of 9 9 is
in the stores all that was dropped was
James Sparenberg schrieb am Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:14:35 -0700:
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 07:18, Patricia Fraser wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 2:33 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
BTW, from what I read elsewhere, I doubt that your
Charlie M. wrote:
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September 22, 2003 12:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
On Mon Sep 22, 2003 at 10:11:37AM -0700, James Sparenberg
wrote:
One side,
This statement by RH was made before the
release of 9 9 is in the stores
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 7:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
On Mon Sep 22, 2003 at 10:11:37AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
One side,
This statement by RH was made before the release of 9
9 is in the stores all that was dropped was the less
profitable high end boxed sets.
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 7:42 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
Oi - in the name of all grandmothers - I resemble that
remark!
AOL Me too! /AOL
Old enough to be a grandpa, Young enough to have a 3 year old
*grin*
/me is a grandfather of a teenager (17). So I might fall into that
Anne Wilson schrieb am Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:52:31 +0100:
Here's an idea tho... I was recently in a local bookstore that
caters to *NIX junkies and saw some Yellowdog packages there. The
cool thing is, tho, that they came in a regular DVD case, just like
a movie. I'm wondering if there is
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 9:21 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
Anne Wilson schrieb am Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:52:31 +0100:
Here's an idea tho... I was recently in a local bookstore that
caters to *NIX junkies and saw some Yellowdog packages there.
The cool thing is, tho, that they came in a regular
Alan Shoemaker wrote:
Charlie M. wrote:
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September 22, 2003 12:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
On Mon Sep 22, 2003 at 10:11:37AM -0700, James
Sparenberg
wrote:
One side,
This statement by RH was made before the
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September 22, 2003 01:50 pm, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
[..]
Agreed on the book part and, IIRC, it comes on the CDs or
at least it's available online.
Here's an idea tho... I was recently in a local bookstore
that caters to *NIX junkies and
On Monday 22 September 2003 09:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 2:33 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
BTW, from what I read elsewhere, I doubt that your
mother/grandmother would be able to install any breed of Windows
without some serious problems, let alone all of the other apps
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 13:21, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
Anne Wilson schrieb am Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:52:31 +0100:
Here's an idea tho... I was recently in a local bookstore that
caters to *NIX junkies and saw some Yellowdog packages there. The
cool thing is, tho, that they came in a regular
On Monday 22 September 2003 12:08 pm, Richard wrote:
el Sun September 21 2003 8:11 pm, HaywireMac escribió:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:39:31 -0600
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
This isn't usenet. The above comments are not appropriate for this
forum. You may disagree with what
On Mon Sep 22, 2003 at 12:24:00PM -0600, Charlie M. wrote:
Here's an idea tho... I was recently in a local bookstore that caters to
*NIX junkies and saw some Yellowdog packages there. The cool thing is,
tho, that they came in a regular DVD case, just like a movie. I'm
wondering if there
On Mon Sep 22, 2003 at 12:50:19PM -0700, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
Sorry for shouting but I know at least ten people here in
Edmonton that would jump at that if it were available. 2
would buy from Mandrake store if they could, the others
either don't use credit cards on-line or don't use
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September 22, 2003 07:31 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
[..]
Well, for us Edmonton folk, I might be able to rig something myself, but
let's see what we can do about this the right way first.
Yes please. I didn't say that any of us (my friends and
On Monday 22 September 2003 11:12 am, Vincent Danen wrote:
Here's an idea tho... I was recently in a local bookstore that caters to
*NIX junkies and saw some Yellowdog packages there. The cool thing is,
tho, that they came in a regular DVD case, just like a movie. I'm
wondering if there is
I think many many people got started on Redhat because it came bundled with
dozens of linux in 24 hours, linux for dummies etc, type books..
I'd really love to see mandrake in those books, I wonder what they'd have
to do to get that sort of exposure.
rgds
Franki
Want to buy your Pack or
On Saturday 20 September 2003 11:31 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
9.2 is supposed to go final RSN (Monday?), but neither the Mandrake home
page
nor the Mandrake Store have any mention about accepting orders for it.
There's a thread on the Club Forum about this (and yes, I did add my two
cents
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:25:05 -0400
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 20 September 2003 11:31 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
9.2 is supposed to go final RSN (Monday?), but neither the
Mandrake home
page
nor the Mandrake Store have any mention about accepting orders
for it.
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:25:05 -0400
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 20 September 2003 11:31 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
9.2 is supposed to go final RSN (Monday?), but neither the
Mandrake home
page
nor the Mandrake Store have any mention about accepting
Lee Wiggers schrieb am Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:02:41 -0400:
Or perhaps they are broke because they don't try to make money?
Watching Mandrake shoot itself in the foot over and over again,
marketing-wise has been the most unpleasant part of my mdk
experience over the past 3 years.
Funny how this
I have bought my a copy of Mandrake (9.1) and will do the same for the
upcoming 9.2...too bad more people would not do the same.
Lee Wiggers schrieb am Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:02:41 -0400:
Or perhaps they are broke because they don't try to make money?
Watching Mandrake shoot itself in the foot
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 6:45 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
Lee Wiggers schrieb am Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:02:41 -0400:
Or perhaps they are broke because they don't try to make money?
Watching Mandrake shoot itself in the foot over and over again,
marketing-wise has been the most unpleasant part of
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the
possibilities of a million monkeys typing on a million
HaywireMac wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the
possibilities of a million monkeys typing on
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 12:13, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
HaywireMac wrote:
...
break it up, break it up, take it outside.
nothing to see here folks, move along.
--
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 12:13, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
HaywireMac wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests that,
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 15:13, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
HaywireMac wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests that,
James Sparenberg wrote:
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 12:13, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
HaywireMac wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution
ed tharp wrote:
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 15:13, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
HaywireMac wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests
On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 02:48:55PM -0400, HaywireMac wrote:
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the
possibilities of a million
On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 12:57:57PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
[...]
Excuse me.. But how about this both of you shut up I'm tired of
wah and whine. end it here and now. Too bad Todd isn't around to start
blocking.
You don't need Todd for that. I am perfectly capable of removing
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 13:39, Vincent Danen wrote:
On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 02:48:55PM -0400, HaywireMac wrote:
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 13:39, Vincent Danen wrote:
On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 02:48:55PM -0400, HaywireMac wrote:
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[..]
The moral of the story is. In order to sell a product the doors
need to be open to customers.
James
My point exactly...entirely. I understand the passionate defense.
I don't understand the
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 16:35, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Well, you attribute to me only what Haywire quoted for his ends;
not really that was all that was quoted, but I feel pretty confidant
that I was also replying to the over all tenor of your post, and only
since you brought up the 'a comparable,
ed tharp wrote:
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 16:35, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Well, you attribute to me only what Haywire quoted for his ends;
not really that was all that was quoted, but I feel pretty confidant
that I was also replying to the over all tenor of your post, and only
since you brought up the
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:44:31 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[..]
The moral of the story is. In order to sell a product the doors
need to be open to customers.
James
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 18:27, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
ed tharp wrote:
taken either to private or the OT list at Rolf's discretion
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
On September 21, 2003 02:44 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[..]
The moral of the story is. In order to sell a product the doors
need to be open to customers.
James
My point
John Wilson wrote:
Sadly, Rolf, having no visible distrubution channel, ie product on physical
shelves in bricks and mortar physical stores, will reduce Mandrake to
invisibilty in North Amercia. Like it or not, and that applies to
MandrakeSoft not you, we North Americans like to hold
On Sunday 21 September 2003 05:57 pm, John Wilson wrote:
On September 21, 2003 02:44 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[..]
The moral of the story is. In order to sell a product the doors
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:39:31 -0600
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
This isn't usenet. The above comments are not appropriate for this
forum. You may disagree with what he had to say, and that's fine, but
to use that language is entirely unacceptable.
Oh I see, he can call the users
On September 21, 2003 04:25 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
I don't know if you think I am from some other continent but I am in
Oakland, CA, USA. It might be the majority of North Americans would
rather buy a pack in a store but I am here, I bought the 7.1 Power Pack
online from a nearby reseller,
Rolf Pedersen wrote:
HaywireMac wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the
possibilities of a
Mark Weaver wrote:
Rolf Pedersen wrote:
HaywireMac wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:42:37 -0700
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world
with a comparable,
more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding
the
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Actually, it was an allusion to a well-known statement that 'a million
monkeys pounding away on a million typewriters for a million years
would, eventually, type out the complete works of Shakespeare'.
Something like that. Google it. To be direct,
On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 03:57:11PM -0700, John Wilson wrote:
[...]
Sadly, Rolf, having no visible distrubution channel, ie product on physical
shelves in bricks and mortar physical stores, will reduce Mandrake to
invisibilty in North Amercia. Like it or not, and that applies to
MandrakeSoft
Hi Vincent,
Like you, I only just picked up on this thread. However, playing devil's
advocate here, I'd say that RH figures they have enough market
penetration and recognition to drop the costly retail sector. However, 2
things spring to mind, RH built their repuation and branding on having
On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 10:38:01PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
Folks, this thread ends now. Mark, I'm not picking on just you... I'm
making it a blanket thing... this thread ends *now*.
If there are any postings under this particular thread, any general
nastiness, etc. I will start liberally
9.2 is supposed to go final RSN (Monday?), but neither the Mandrake home page
nor the Mandrake Store have any mention about accepting orders for it.
There's a thread on the Club Forum about this (and yes, I did add my two
cents worth), but no response has been forthcoming from anyone at
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