[FairfieldLife] Re: You Are an Illusion

2008-01-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Hmmm.... naasikaantarmadhyasaMyama?

2008-01-17 Thread cardemaister
The second to last suutra of Shiva-suutras of Kashmir shaivism goes like this (from memory): naasikaantarmadhyasaMyamaat kimatra savyaapasavyasauSumneSu* I guess the sandhi-vigraha would be something like this: naasikaa+antaH-madhya-saMyamaat kim atra savya+apasavya-sauSumneSu From that (or,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if he's not your master or guru, he deserves our honor and praise during this time of his transition and the classy way he's addressing it. As far as I know MMY has never claimed to be either! Neither a Master OR

[FairfieldLife] MMY's half-baked scheme to save the world!

2008-01-17 Thread BillyG.
MMY wanted his cake and eat it too! He wanted TM to be taught strictly as a science but he was unwilling to distance it from Religion! Therefor his 'scheme' was to sell the eternal Religion of the Vedas (MMY page four, the Vedas)in the form of Science and/or Politics. Quote, Today, when politics

[FairfieldLife] Facing one's mortality

2008-01-17 Thread do.rflex
And I am not frightened of dying. Any time will do, I don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying? There's no reason for it. You've gotta go sometime. I never said I was frightened of dying. - Pink Floyd Music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHEXx51OXRU GURU DEV: Every day be

[FairfieldLife] Just curious: raajas?

2008-01-17 Thread cardemaister
I wonder, how many of the TMO raajas (and other big...er...wigs) are Jewish?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones launches Dharma Indices....

2008-01-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om, how bout a Tao Jones Index of spiritual experience for places, spiritual movements, gurus, preachers, llamas, ayatollahs, saints and spiritual healers? The Tao Jones Index of shakti for spiritual experience. Something like a shakti meter of spiritual experience. Could be sector indexes.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Zoran Krneta
As far as I know MMY has never claimed to be either! Neither a Master OR a Guru, and certainly not a Sat-Guru (true/realized Guru). Why not! That doesn't depend upon Maharishi… it depends upon you… it can be that Guru physically doesn't exist… doesn't matter if you are experiencing growth of

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's half-baked scheme to save the world!

2008-01-17 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY wanted his cake and eat it too! He wanted TM to be taught strictly as a science but he was unwilling to distance it from Religion! Therefor his 'scheme' was to sell the eternal Religion of the Vedas (MMY page four,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like China in the surveillance dept

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: I've seen lots of buildings fall as a result of war, bombs, and plane crashes. Never before and never after did buildings fall as the World Trade Center buildings fell. It pulverized the concrete. this is not the same as the kind of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just curious: raajas?

2008-01-17 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder, how many of the TMO raajas (and other big...er...wigs) are Jewish? Be careful, Cardmeister, Bob Brigante might call you a 'Jew-hater'.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just curious: raajas?

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 17, 2008, at 8:13 AM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder, how many of the TMO raajas (and other big...er...wigs) are Jewish? Be careful, Cardmeister, Bob Brigante might call you a 'Jew-hater'. Come clean Card,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 17, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Peter wrote: Who Maharishi is depends upon your direct experience with him. For some he is a sat guru And for others he's a standing guru. Recent reports indicate he is lying down during talks, so wouldn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Peter wrote: Who Maharishi is depends upon your direct experience with him. For some he is a sat guru And for others he's a standing guru. Sal

[FairfieldLife] of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Oh, proly not the blitz directly. Though seems Angela probably witnessed at least the effect of allied bombing of Germany in the 1940's. Did you miss this? Post, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/161030 Angela writes: He was a swing kid, a guy from Hamburg, about sixteen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Peter
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Peter wrote: Who Maharishi is depends upon your direct experience with him. For some he is a sat guru And for others he's a standing guru. Sal Ding, ding, ding Post of the day (or should it be a stood

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enter the Shotokan Dragon - Machida

2008-01-17 Thread Peter
--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do not think that a hard kick to the head (which a hard shotokan kick can break 2 x 4's) does not run a high risk of killing someone, or causing severe brain damage, you are a complete fucking idiot. Period. OffWorld Why

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Peter
--- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know MMY has never claimed to be either! Neither a Master OR a Guru, and certainly not a Sat-Guru (true/realized Guru). Why not! That doesn't depend upon

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's half-baked scheme to save the world!

2008-01-17 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's very telling about Maharishi that so many TMers [current and former] on this forum - who have actually had some close contact and association with him in varying degrees - appear to have such little feeling of loss

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know MMY has never claimed to be either! Neither a Master OR a Guru, and certainly not a Sat-Guru (true/realized Guru). Why not! That doesn't depend upon Maharishi… it depends upon you… it can be that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just curious: raajas?

2008-01-17 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder, how many of the TMO raajas (and other big...er...wigs) are Jewish? Rona Abramson, a woman of Jewish ancestry, is a Raja Rajeshwari. In 1980, many people of Jewish ancestry held positions of leadership

[FairfieldLife] SSRS on the Ego

2008-01-17 Thread Peter
Interesting video. Talks about Realization via the expansion of the ego to include everything and also the contraction of the ego to the point of nothingness. http://tinyurl.com/21q98h Never miss a

[FairfieldLife] Re: OMG !.....He has left the body !.....Jan. 12

2008-01-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5
FW: i am trying to get my mind around Maharishi dying. i realize that i think of him as an immortal value. i know that i do not have the same respect for the words of any other source. i more than believe in his status, i have experienced it. he has perplexed me, but i have

[FairfieldLife] for Angela, WAS Re: Facing one's mortality

2008-01-17 Thread feste37
Angela, I was struck by some echoes of Hamlet in this quotation from Guru Dev. Hamlet is all about learning how to die (I think we agree), and Guru Dev's He who remains ready to go, from him there will never be sin, reminds me of Hamlet's the readiness is all speech in Act 5. And also, in the next

[FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's your view of my take on the situation, then you're right to object. Too simplistic. Angela's take on the situation: I've seen lots of buildings fall as a result of war, bombs, and plane crashes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: OMG !.....He has left the body !.....Jan. 12

2008-01-17 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FW: you are not alone in these feelings. it is a wonderful thing...besides all the wacky projects, money laundering, hanky panky, whatever.that the 'diamond' in all this is indeed beyond all compare. its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like China in the surveillance dept

2008-01-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Point one finger and you'll find five fingers pointing back at you. --Old Saw I think it must be three cuz I can't get my thumb to point back. It should be: When you point your finger you have three fingers pointed back at you plus a thumb that either points straight up or could also point in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like China in the surveillance dept

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Indeed. Like Bush said, Never let us tolerate any outrageous conspiracy theories. - Original Message From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:33:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Zoran Krneta
Salutations to you, Sage, Kindly tell us what guru has given you the great knowledge which has made you perfect in wisdom, full of peace, and devoted to the good of all living beings. The Avadhut anwered: One's own Self is one's chief Guru. By knowledge of Self [in] communion one gets the great

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
If that's your view of my take on the situation, then you're right to object. Too simplistic. - Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:34:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like China in the surveillance dept

2008-01-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the air to a bird or the sea to a fish, so is contempt to the contemptible. William Blake Oh, very good rejoinder, Angela. Boy, that really advances the discussion. Here's my contribution: Point one finger

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Peter
--- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if he's not your master or guru, he deserves our honor and praise during this time of his transition and the classy way he's addressing it. As far as I know MMY has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Louis McKenzie
IS THERE ANY VERIFICATION TO THE RUMOR THAT MAHARISHI AS LEFT THE BODY? - Original Message From: BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:15:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished' --- In

[FairfieldLife] Online ordering at Revelations

2008-01-17 Thread Rick Archer
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread pranamoocher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS THERE ANY VERIFICATION TO THE RUMOR THAT MAHARISHI AS LEFT THE BODY? Louis: Elvis has not left the building, I repeat: Elvis has not left the building.

[FairfieldLife] The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
It is my fortune, Guru Dev, that I have been accepted to serve the Holy Tradition and spread the Light of God to all those who need it. It is my joy to undertake the responsibility of representing the Holy Tradition in all its purity as it has been given to me by Maharishi and I promise on

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS THERE ANY VERIFICATION TO THE RUMOR THAT MAHARISHI AS LEFT THE BODY? Louis, The rumor of which you speak was at its height for a few hours on Jan. 12th, when MMY missed his own birthday party.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy

2008-01-17 Thread Duveyoung
Richard is a lost soul to think that killing less children than another killer's total makes one more moral or justified. Murder is murder is murder. Every president of America has authorized murder. The nations of the world kill children, take pictures of their bloody bodies in the arms of

[FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip She seems a person who has lived a life around. Fault her for that? Attack her for that? I don't believe Sal was attacking or faulting Angela for her life experience. Kind of strange that you read Sal's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like China in the surveillance dept

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
As the air to a bird or the sea to a fish, so is contempt to the contemptible. William Blake - Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:55:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to

[FairfieldLife] Sound Arya La Hari

2008-01-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Here is an excerpt from the Sound Arya La Hari composed by the Adi Shankara. The Sounda contains numerous TM bija mantras. This ode is daily recited by all the Saraswati Dasanamis at Sringeri Matha. Shankara wrote this ode for our understanding and then he kindly placed a Sri Yantra at all the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread Louis McKenzie
THANKS VERY MUCH I hope that if and when he does make some transition it is shared and I can see it or reaction to.. - Original Message From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:52:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like China in the surveillance dept

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Seems like you can't count. - Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:42:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like China in the surveillance dept

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 17, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip She seems a person who has lived a life around. Fault her for that? Attack her for that? I don't believe Sal was attacking or faulting Angela for her life

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Kids, USA is beginning to look a bit like China in the surveillance dept

2008-01-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Hey, aren't you the guy that wants government paid universal health care and Social Security? Bhairitu wrote: We paid it so we should get our Social Security. So, you're not opposed to a big government daddy that takes care of you. Question: Why should I be forced to pay for your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just curious: raajas?

2008-01-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: I wonder, how many of the TMO raajas (and other big...er...wigs) are Jewish? Rona

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread Peter
--- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my fortune, Guru Dev, that I have been accepted to serve the Holy Tradition and spread the Light of God to all those who need it. It is my joy to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my fortune, Guru Dev, that I have been accepted to serve the Holy Tradition and spread the Light of God to all those who need it. It is my joy to undertake the responsibility of representing the Holy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Chertoff is a Paranoiac

2008-01-17 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: With delusions of grandeur: http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_security_chief_sees_Europe_as_ma_01162008.html He needs to be removed from office and receive medical attention (as well as a few others in BushCo I can think of).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just curious: raajas?

2008-01-17 Thread Peter
--- mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder, how many of the TMO raajas (and other big...er...wigs) are Jewish? Rona Abramson, a woman of Jewish ancestry, is a Raja Rajeshwari. In 1980,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where's the heart? (MSAE , Donating to Dharma)

2008-01-17 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Predictably, Fester doesn't try to answer any of the legitimate questions I offered about the charity. Nor, does Fester offer any credentials to balance my own 20 year four-kid history with MSAEso I'm the expert in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and his Brahman thingy

2008-01-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: Every president of America has authorized murder. Thank you for this information, Mr. Ed. Almost no one disagrees with these basic facts: that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a menace; that he has weapons of mass destruction and that he is doing everything in his power to get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread Bhairitu
Peter wrote: --- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my fortune, Guru Dev, that I have been accepted to serve the Holy Tradition and spread the Light of God to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread tertonzeno
---For those of you unaware of the Pledge, I'm pasting it in (below). Please read, sign, and send in your pledge to Tom. Quote: In the United States, which was once thought to be a haven of religious liberty, we are the targets of unprincipled attacks in the court system by those who would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just curious: raajas?

2008-01-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Peter wrote: Wow! Those hook-nose Jews are in everything. So sneaky and cunning too! You could at least wait until your patients were out of the office, Doctor, before you post comments about them on the Internet!

Re: [FairfieldLife] for Angela, WAS Re: Facing one's mortality

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Yes, there is that similarity. There is also the context in which the opening line of the whole play (Who's there?) signals the dichotomy of self/Self. Hamlet's last words, too, fit into this: The rest is silence. We may argue that silence is a TMO word, and it's true, that word is given

Re: [FairfieldLife] 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Yes, Building Seven was the clincher. The plane allegedly crashing in PA was another dead give-away. When planes crash, you don't have debris over several square miles and no bodies. That's the scenario when they're shot down (and yes, incredibly, I've seen both). When they crash, the debris

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Chertoff is a Paranoiac

2008-01-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: With delusions of grandeur: http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_security_chief_sees_Europe_as_ma_01162008.html He needs to be removed from office and receive medical attention (as well as a few others in BushCo I can think of). Maybe you should get out and vote. But I can't see

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread abutilon108
I signed the pledge much later on and I'm quite sure the wording was different. It seems not everyone would have signed the same pledge, although as I remember what you were agreeing to was pretty much the same.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
My comment about falling buildings was in the context of an article by a reputable physicist which you conveniently forgot. As it happens, however, I did see lots of buildings come down--not just three or four, but most of the buildings in town and in more than one town. They came down due to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just curious: raajas?

2008-01-17 Thread Peter
--- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote: Wow! Those hook-nose Jews are in everything. So sneaky and cunning too! You could at least wait until your patients were out of the office, Doctor, before you post comments about them on the Internet! I have a Halt

Re: [FairfieldLife] of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Bhairitu wrote:Ask THEM about building 7 and they'll probably change the subject.I wouldn't. Unfortunately the side of the building the media had access to after the collapse of the north WTC was largely undamaged, but the opposite side was incredibly damaged. That's

Re: [FairfieldLife] of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
We're talking about building 7 here Angela. On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: The only problem is that buildings don't collapse THAT WAY due to fires.

Re: [FairfieldLife] of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
The only problem is that buildings don't collapse THAT WAY due to fires. - Original Message From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:42:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] of the assailing on FFL On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:25 PM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread The Secret
Maharishi lives for a short time only unless he does one of his all too common turnabouts. Don't worry about him being in pain. The way he chose to leave makes the endorphins really kick in. It's a painless way of passing as there is less attention paid to one's body. Just honor the man for

[FairfieldLife] 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Duveyoung
Angela, Judy, Vaj, Angela, if you HAD to choose, which fact do you think is the MOST obvious sign of something hinky in the 911 disasters? I'd say, first would be Building 7 coming down -- and the BBC reporting it 30 minutes before it actually came down, and that official saying we pulled it. It

Re: [FairfieldLife] of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Bhairitu
Doug, all this is just an attack by a small group who bought the official 9-11 story hook, line and sinker. Ask THEM about building 7 and they'll probably change the subject. dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Oh, proly not the blitz directly. Though seems Angela probably witnessed at least the effect

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:09 PM, abutilon108 wrote: I signed the pledge much later on and I'm quite sure the wording was different. It seems not everyone would have signed the same pledge, although as I remember what you were agreeing to was pretty much the same. Declaration of Loyalty to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 abutilon108@ wrote: I signed the pledge much later on and I'm quite sure the wording was different. It seems not everyone would have signed the same

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:06 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: The later versions, like the one I signed, had the phrase that said the movement could seek financial equitable relief if you spilled any of the beans. Nice to have a little legal threat along with the spiritual stuff before you get your

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed the pledge much later on and I'm quite sure the wording was different. It seems not everyone would have signed the same pledge, although as I remember what you were agreeing to was pretty much the same. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread yifuxero
---To my great surprise, my group leader at Humboldt 70 (Tom Winquist, an initiate of MMY), already had a dossier on me in which it correctly revealed that I had been initiated into Eckankar. Whoops!a serious strike against me from the get-go. A few years later, I got fired from SIMS for

Re: [FairfieldLife] 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Judy and Vaj, are you still reading down this far into my nonsense? I am sincerely hoping you two can explain these two issues. Given the confidence you both seem to have in spades when debating this topic, I'm hopeful my POV can be augmented. Why?

[FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My comment about falling buildings was in the context of an article by a reputable physicist which you conveniently forgot. No, it wasn't in that context at all. You conveniently made that up. As it happens,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, all this is just an attack by a small group who bought the official 9-11 story hook, line and sinker. Ask THEM about building 7 and they'll probably change the subject. Disingenuous.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Building Seven was the clincher. Angela, read what Vaj just posted about Building 7, and then debunk it for us, please. The plane allegedly crashing in PA was another dead give-away. When planes crash,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9-11 was just a shock and awe operation performed on the American people just like one that was done on the Iraqis. It was done to scare the shit out of the public to make them cower and give up their rights. Even

Re: [FairfieldLife] 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Judy and Vaj, are you still reading down this far into my nonsense? I am sincerely hoping you two can explain these two issues. Given the confidence you both seem to have in spades when debating this topic, I'm hopeful my POV can be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could someone kindly translate Joytish speak into English

2008-01-17 Thread Bhairitu
It is probably NOT necessarily the most auspicious time in history but just an auspicious time. Depending on what you are doing these auspicious times or muhurtas can occur even frequently and less frequently (every few years) if more requirements are needed. I have no idea what horoscope

[FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, all this is just an attack by a small group who bought the official 9-11 story hook, line and sinker. Ask THEM about building 7 and they'll probably change the subject. Disingenuous. We've discussed it here at

[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Until I get a good explanation of these facts, I won't bother presenting the two dozen other oddities that support the conspiracy theory, but some of them are almost as troubling and obvious as the above. Start

Re: [FairfieldLife] 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Bhairitu
9-11 was just a shock and awe operation performed on the American people just like one that was done on the Iraqis. It was done to scare the shit out of the public to make them cower and give up their rights. Even it doesn't work on some of us who see right through it. 9-11 was way too big

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
As I recall it, the whole thing started just because I mentioned that article. Someone on this list posted a list of the top 25 or so most important censored articles of the year, and the physicist's article was among them. That was the context to me of this whole discussion. Ignore it if

[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
This is such a zombie thread like the Terminator! You think it's dead and then its baaack. Let me get this straight...no investigative journalist has been able to make themselves instantly famous and worth millions by finding out any definitive proof of a 9-11 conspiracy? And everyone in on

[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread The Secret
No one wanted to be part of the follow on to the Ruby and Oswald show? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is such a zombie thread like the Terminator! You think it's dead and then its baaack. Let me get this straight...no investigative

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread The Secret
So your point is to underwhelm and disappoint those of us who chose not to go this route? This is so gentle and sweet compared to the way the Houston TM Center under Jane Hopson operated and with the way the Course Office used to handle applications to the Course Office. Lovely, you manage to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Says: Work is Finished'

2008-01-17 Thread The Secret
Wow. After a long hiatus from FFL it's good to see we have the same consensus as we used to have. Except now it's all so very funny because God has a glorious sense of humor and at times I get the joke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:38 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Until I get a good explanation of these facts, I won't bother presenting the two dozen other oddities that support the conspiracy theory, but some of them are almost

[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread ruthsimplicity
I favor the psychological theory that people fall for conspiracy theories because of a human tendency to try to link major events with major causes. People cannot accept that a few terrorists could cause such a disaster of such proportion in the United States.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, Yeah, I know, and it sucks to be me when I read your below questions that seem to point to the event being far too big an operation and involve too many folks in-the-know. My general answer to you is that it could have taken far fewer actually in the know workers guiding dozens of others

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:02 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: I favor the psychological theory that people fall for conspiracy theories because of a human tendency to try to link major events with major causes. People cannot accept that a few terrorists could cause such a disaster of such proportion in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, Edg, you're in good company at least. Danny Sheehan was in Fairfield for several public talks. I asked him about 9/11, and he pretty much agrees with us. I also asked if there was any hope the truth would ever become public, and he said he thought so but people feared for their lives.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Could someone kindly translate Joytish speak into English

2008-01-17 Thread The Secret
OK, I don't want to go into details. Let's drop it. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is probably NOT necessarily the most auspicious time in history but just an auspicious time. Depending on what you are doing these auspicious times or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
I think a false flag attack would be much harder for Americans to accept. It's a conspiracy theory either way. - Original Message From: ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:02:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 911 into

Re: [FairfieldLife] 911 into the fray again I go (of the assailing on FFL)

2008-01-17 Thread Vaj
On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Judy and Vaj, are you still reading down this far into my nonsense? I am sincerely hoping you two can explain these two issues. Given the confidence you both seem to have in spades

[FairfieldLife] Perhaps Maharishi would consider this dharmic !

2008-01-17 Thread amarnath
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Re: [FairfieldLife] of the assailing on FFL

2008-01-17 Thread Angela Mailander
Thanks for your kind words. Yes, I did witness allied bombing. I was only five years old when the war was over, but my memory about events is very clear. Maybe because I recall witnessing while these things were going on. Seems weird for a five-year old to have witnessing experiences, but I

[FairfieldLife] Let's lighten things up a bit

2008-01-17 Thread guyfawkes91
If you have an interest in spiritual practices, group dynamics and the wilder shores of suggestibility here're some YouTube clips which ought to make you laugh, gawp, feel smug and generally leave you scratching your head thinking What the F...!, Um, er, eh how did he do that. It's a few clips of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMers Pledge

2008-01-17 Thread The Secret
Well, if you're going on CCP or IA, no forms to sign. Just fill out contact information. We could be going any direction now that Maharishi (whom I heard acted in a paranoid fashion at times and I've known some of his local, volunteer attorneys and they could file a writ so fast) has retired and

[FairfieldLife] The phoneme 'OM'

2008-01-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
The phoneme 'OM' is a mantra by courtesy only and it's not found in the Gayatri or in the Rig Veda - it was added on by redactors. 'Om' is really just a quasi-morpheme, not a bija mantra at all. Bijas all came later with the development of the Tantras subsequent to the advent of sectarian

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