[FairfieldLife] Who da King after da King?

2009-03-29 Thread TurquoiseB
This is a question for Alex to ask his brother, or for anyone who might know the answer. I was remembering the pilot of Kings yesterday and was remembering the setup for the plotline about who is going to become king after Ian McShane. There is obviously an expected succession from father to son,

[FairfieldLife] EPR paradox?

2009-03-29 Thread cardemaister
Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen were all Jewish. So, was EPR paradox, or whatever, an attempt to defend tha Jewish world view (Gott würfelf nicht!) against the mystical claims of quantum mechanics, like spooky action at distance, or stuff. Perhaps that felt like disgustingly Hindoo for those

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: I'm talking about the outward stroke RD, not the inward one. If you keep returning on the outward stroke it's because your level of attention was faulty...another thing you were apparently never told... ...here, have a

Re: [FairfieldLife] The third temple must be built before the second coming

2009-03-29 Thread Kirk
Um, what does The Temple have to do with Jesus? - Original Message - From: jimjim5886 jimjim5...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The third temple must be built before the second coming According to bible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote: This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition where mantra continues continuously like a spontaneous thought actually is ajapa-japa: no effort or

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-29 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Robert wrote: It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for the checking, etc... Because unless we have the experience of transcending thought, then we can think that repeating a mantra, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-29 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---.Good; but as Charlie Lutes once said in jest, he asks the question as a challenge to those touting the benefits of transcending and at the same time

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-29 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Robert wrote: It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for the checking, etc... Because unless we have the experience of

[FairfieldLife] Announcing the CM (Crayola Meditation) Technique

2009-03-29 Thread TurquoiseB
Yes, it's what you've all been waiting for -- the fastest, most effective way to become a great artist -- coming to a school system near you. Soon classes will start in the unique, scientifically- verified CM (TM) technique, at the low, low introductory price of only $600 US. (It's usually

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote: This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition where mantra continues

[FairfieldLife] Re: Announcing the CM (Crayola Meditation) Technique -- the point

2009-03-29 Thread TurquoiseB
For those who are satire-impaired, the rap below was my attempt at portraying the way that the TM technique is marketed. *Especially* with regard to its uniqueness and its supposed supremacy over other techniques of meditation. If you *bought* this presentation for CM, and believed every word of

[FairfieldLife] Alex -- didja? (Re: Fw: Post Count? - Food Network!)

2009-03-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Hey, why not institute it. Alex can be Kirk's minder. I think everyone enjoys Kirk's posts. I'm smiling as I write this, but I think it would be a great idea. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Actually I cared for the personal touch. Thanks. -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote: This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition where mantra continues continuously like a spontaneous thought actually is ajapa-japa: no effort or smriti, just constant ongoing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who da King after da King?

2009-03-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
What's the first thought that pops into my mind when reading the first sentence here: Alex is his brothers keeper. (apropos to nothing really) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: This is a question for Alex to ask his brother, or for anyone who might know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:18 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Vaj, You haven't a clue about the practice of TM. Intersting opinion but WRONG. :-) Really, in terms of the technical description of how TM is practiced in the initial

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 28, 2009, at 11:40 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: I've learned a lot of variations on mantra concentration over the years, from the TM charm causes the mind to spontaneously concentrate idea to many other kinds. One of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Announcing the CM (Crayola Meditation) Technique

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 6:32 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Yes, it's what you've all been waiting for -- the fastest, most effective way to become a great artist -- coming to a school system near you. Soon classes will start in the unique, scientifically- verified CM (TM) technique, at the low, low

Re: [FairfieldLife] Announcing the CM (Crayola Meditation) Technique

2009-03-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 29, 2009, at 5:32 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: And the best part is that after a few months of regular practice of CM, you'll be ready to learn the CMSP (Crayola Meditation Stupidity Program). LOL... That is where you learn to color within the lines while bouncing on your butt on slabs of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote: This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition where mantra continues continuously like a spontaneous thought

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote: This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
enjoy your dance-- i will too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: fwiw, in a future lifetime, possibly two or three from this one, Vaj and the others on here with an antagonistic

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-29 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Robert wrote: It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
Vaj is conflicted between letting go with TM and being bound to the same old worthless traditions. that is why he wrestles with TM so, trying to fit it into a box that it doesn't fit in. the Maharishi was not one to resurrect the fools and worthlessness of the past, rather to make a clean,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 9:53 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote: This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition where mantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread raunchydog
Vaj, Until you answer whether or not you are a TM teacher, you have absolutely no credibility on anything you say about TM. You are a fraud until you prove otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 29, 2009, at 9:53 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Alex -- didja? (Re: Fw: Post Count? - Food Network!)

2009-03-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Hey, why not institute it. Alex can be Kirk's minder. I think everyone enjoys Kirk's posts. I'm smiling as I write this, but I think it would be a great idea. Um, no. We excused one week of overposting. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, raunchydog wrote: Vaj, Until you answer whether or not you are a TM teacher, you have absolutely no credibility on anything you say about TM. You are a fraud until you prove otherwise. The only fraud I see here is the one presenting false views. I guess the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: It's probably time for a TM and mantra meditation FAQ... raunchydog wrote: Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than delusions grandeur. You think you know about TM. You don't. By the way when and where did you do TTC? Did you ever teach anyone TM? Where and when was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, raunchydog wrote: Vaj, Until you answer whether or not you are a TM teacher, you have absolutely no credibility on anything you say about TM. You are a fraud until you prove otherwise.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj, Until you answer whether or not you are a TM teacher, you have absolutely no credibility on anything you say about TM. You are a fraud until you prove otherwise. Vaj wrote: The only fraud I see here is the one presenting false views. I guess the good thing is, you have a lot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: I've seen a photo of BillyG shaking hands with Charles F. Lutes, and I've seen a leaflet with Barry Wright's picture on it. Kirk posted a graduation photo of himself at MUM. Vaj...nada.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: So you are thinking that a bunch of people here are interested enough in TM to post regularly concerning their detailed opinions of where Maharishi got it wrong... with no detailed exposure to his system of thought?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
I've seen a photo of BillyG shaking hands with Charles F. Lutes, and I've seen a leaflet with Barry Wright's picture on it. Kirk posted a graduation photo of himself at MUM. raunchydog wrote: Vaj...nada. There was this one guy on alt.m.t., Lon P. Stacks, who claimed that he was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread I am the eternal
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: If Vaj really ever was a teacher, he's got some kind of extremely weird cognitive deficit. He's frequently dishonest, but I can't believe he'd be so *stupid* as to think anyone who had ever been involved with TM would fall

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: Show me you dome badge buddy!? I've seen no evidence that Curtis has ever been inside a 'Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge', or that he has ever even seen a 'dome badge'. Who are these anonymous posters anyway? We don't take to trollers here much, Curtis. Yeah, let's get some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Yet another round of people *who have never practiced any other technique of meditation other than TM* declaring over and over, TM is unique!!! The absurdity of it staggers the imagination. At least Vaj has

[FairfieldLife] Barcelona in 1908

2009-03-29 Thread Marek Reavis
A charming 7-minute YouTube video taken from a trolley car along different routes in Barcelona about 100 years ago. http://tinyurl.com/c4t8f2 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJdwzY1o7k8

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread I am the eternal
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Vaj claims to have been a *TM teacher*. Really? Well, Hush my mouth. Has he said anything specific that leads you to believe it's true? He's been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
if you think any of the TM critics here are trying to learn anything except shore up their defenses against a technique that transcends everything, you truly are dreaming. this is not some high minded exercise in compare and contrast. it is a feeble attempt by those who's egos are in the way,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
If Vaj really ever was a teacher, he's got some kind of extremely weird cognitive deficit. He's frequently dishonest, but I can't believe he'd be so *stupid* as to think anyone who had ever been involved with TM would fall for the sort of thing he was going on about in this post, so I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, authfriend jst...@... wrote: If Vaj really ever was a teacher, he's got some kind of extremely weird cognitive deficit. He's frequently dishonest, but I can't believe he'd be so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barcelona in 1908

2009-03-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: A charming 7-minute YouTube video taken from a trolley car along different routes in Barcelona about 100 years ago. http://tinyurl.com/c4t8f2 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJdwzY1o7k8 Cool. I know most of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:40 AM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: You've been doing OK lately, but if you're about to have another inner child tantrum, can you make this next one a little more believable

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barcelona in 1908

2009-03-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Before I posted the video I googled to see how far Sitges was from Mundaka, one of the premiere big wave surf breaks, to give you a heads-up if it was close by; but it's almost 6 hours away, driving time, from you. And the women wear far less clothing. - So at least some progress has been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: snip The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here, the polemic gamesmanship used to try to discredit him personally rather than address the points he has brought up, reveals an anti-intellectual bias

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: But here you have a guy who is wy into meditation and is obviously very sharp, and I don't sense a shred of curiosity about his detailed perspective among the people here who claim to be way into self

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than delusions grandeur. You think you know about TM. You don't. By the way when and where did you do TTC? Did you ever teach anyone TM? Where and when was that? If you're a TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: Vaj is conflicted between letting go with TM and being bound to the same old worthless traditions. that is why he wrestles with TM so, trying to fit it into a box that it doesn't fit in. the Maharishi was not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Yet another round of people *who have never practiced any other technique of meditation other than TM* declaring over and over, TM is unique!!! The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Vaj wrote: It's probably time for a TM and mantra meditation FAQ... raunchydog wrote: Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than delusions grandeur. You think you know about TM. You don't. By the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Show me you dome badge buddy!? Judy wrote: He's discredited *himself* personally. And you're discrediting yourself by defending him and attacking us. So, it's settled then - Vaj and Curtis and Turq are discredited by Judy. But, nobody here has a dome badge they can show. Is there

[FairfieldLife] Who controls America? ...U.S. Government or Corporations?

2009-03-29 Thread do.rflex
Teddy Roosevelt took a stand on Corporate power: -- Theodore Roosevelt actually liked big business. He thought that the growth of big business was very healthy, that most of the businesses got there because they were efficient and the businessmen were doing their jobs right. But two things

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-29 Thread Bhairitu
cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Robert wrote: It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for the checking, etc... Because unless we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Who controls America? ...U.S. Government or Corporations?

2009-03-29 Thread Bhairitu
Until the Civil War corporations were very limited in their power, size, mission and lifetime. They could only last 40 years and then had to dissolve. They could not have personhood. They had to serve the public good. The founding fathers had a bad taste for corporations, especially a

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Duveyoung
raunchydog wrote: Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than delusions grandeur. You think you know about TM. You don't. By the way when and where did you do TTC? Did you ever teach anyone TM? Where and when was that? If you're a TM teacher, as Judy says you claim, you've seriously fallen off

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
I am TM initiate #214 in the U.S.A., according to Beaulah Smith, and I meditate regularly in the 'Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge', at Radiance, Texas and I can prove it. Jim wrote: Nice, thanks for posting this. I did not know you are one of the Pioneers ! What is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barcelona in 1908

2009-03-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: A charming 7-minute YouTube video taken from a trolley car along different routes in Barcelona about 100 years ago. http://tinyurl.com/c4t8f2 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJdwzY1o7k8 Bicycles and

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: He's given some very clear statements that might be right or wrong, but they're precise and draw a well defined line in the sand... Anyone who practises TM properly *knows* that TM is effortless. Vaj just has some bug up his ass about TM because he feels he's an expert on

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Is Not A Religion Religion

2009-03-29 Thread Duveyoung
raunchydog wrote: Right you are. There's a lot of room for a teacher to give a creative response to a meditator's question and remain within the framework of Maharishi's teachings. On TTC, 6 months in France, as I listened to Maharishi everyday, I was always amazed he could find so many ways to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:05 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here, the polemic gamesmanship used to try to discredit him personally rather than address the points he has brought up, reveals an anti-intellectual bias that reminds me of a political

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:20 AM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: If Vaj really ever was a teacher, he's got some kind of extremely weird cognitive deficit. He's frequently dishonest, but I can't believe he'd be so *stupid* as to think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:20 AM, I am the eternal wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: If Vaj really ever was a teacher, he's got some kind of extremely weird cognitive deficit. He's

RE: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:09 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch) Most of the naysayers who are contending

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: He's given some very clear statements that might be right or wrong, but they're precise and draw a well defined line in the sand. Others are merely kicking sand on his line instead of drawing their own lines and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:05 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: The lack of interest in Vaj's perspective I see here, the polemic gamesmanship used to try to discredit him personally rather than address the points he has brought

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 1:42 PM, I am the eternal wrote: It's not a friendly conversation when one reveals the result of an extensive search of the 'Net about someone else in a very sensitive area. The material might have been available but I consider the search and revealing the result of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Show me you dome badge buddy!? Judy wrote: He's discredited *himself* personally. And you're discrediting yourself by defending him and attacking us. So, it's settled then - Vaj and Curtis and Turq

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: snip I haven't been following this thread, and Vaj has probably quoted this, but on my TTC (Estes Park, 1970) I clearly remember Maharishi quoting the Vedas as saying, Be easy to us with gentle effort. Which (as I've pointed

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
perfectly well said: The nature of the practise reveals itself from within naturally, there is no need to analyse. exactly right, and so clearly reveals the ego trips, vs. legitimate avenues for inquiry of the most vocal TM critics on here. they are nothing more than paper tigers, easily

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip I haven't been following this thread, and Vaj has probably quoted this, but on my TTC (Estes Park, 1970) I clearly remember Maharishi quoting the Vedas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:55 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Show me you dome badge buddy!? Judy wrote: He's discredited *himself* personally. And you're discrediting yourself by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Show me you dome badge buddy!? Judy wrote: He's discredited *himself* personally. And you're discrediting yourself by defending him and attacking us. So, it's settled then - Vaj and Curtis and Turq

RE: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

RE: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: It doesn't matter *how* many other techniques Vaj has studied or for how long. If he can't give an accurate account of what TM is, there's no way he can make valid comparisons. My point exactly.

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: snip And, even here at FFL we see long time meditators and long time initiators disagreeing with one another about effortlessness. The movement never offered a Doctor of TM Philosophy in consciousness dynamics program, and

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re:

[FairfieldLife] Effort? (Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch))

2009-03-29 Thread Duveyoung
Nab, If Vaj is SOLELY into one-up-manship, I can't see it. I love the game of one-up-manship if it's played lightly, but most posters here cannot control themselves enough to have a delightful and jocular banter, and instead, they get crudely and blindly brutal. I often, in fact, most of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tim and Jeff

2009-03-29 Thread grate . swan
I listened to Gram today. I have known him through his songs that other sing -- like Emmy Lou Harris -- but have not heard him much. My first reactions was this guy sounds like the flying burrito brothers. Well, at least I didn't post that. Read an article on him and as you -- between your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Duveyoung wrote: raunchydog wrote: Vaj, Your superior tone is nothing more than delusions grandeur. You think you know about TM. You don't. By the way when and where did you do TTC? Did you ever teach anyone TM? Where and when was that? If you're a TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Show me you dome badge buddy!? Judy wrote: He's discredited *himself* personally. And you're discrediting yourself by defending him and attacking us. So, it's settled then - Vaj and Curtis and Turq

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-29 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote:  Got an ancient field badge with no current sticker.  -CIC-9, great times back then. National Field Badges were never honored in the Dome.

[FairfieldLife] Arming Mexico's Drug Wars with Gringo Guns

2009-03-29 Thread do.rflex
-- Gringo Guns - Animation About Mexico's Drug Wars and the US Gun Lobby http://www.markfiore.com/political/gringo-guns

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: In contrast, the teachers that have *not* been in alignment with my and these TM teachers' understanding have been all over the map--no consistency whatsoever. The experience of consistency within the community of TM-teachers

RE: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch) According to Rick the Vedas says Be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 29, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Another thing MMY said on that TTC was that when there's a war on, there's no time to train sharp-shooters. You just hand folks rifles and send them out. He said sharp-shooter training would come later on. Ever wonder about the psychological

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip I haven't been following this thread, and Vaj has probably quoted this, but on my TTC (Estes Park, 1970) I clearly

[FairfieldLife] Effort? (Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch))

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: snip The best candidate for something truly effortless was when once the mantra was started it repeated itself without one feeling like one had had a hand in the continuing of the repetition. To me, this is merely less

[FairfieldLife] David Sieveking film

2009-03-29 Thread David Fiske
Has there been any discussion of David Sieveking and his documentary film on Maharishi, David wants to fly? I did a search that came up blank. I spoke to him today and we might meet up. love, David

Re: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:09 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher?

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Did you see where Vaj claimed it was wrong to allow the mantra to become fuzzy and vague, by the way? Yes, brilliant, you nailed him. It is beyond belief that anyone here takes him seriously. I wonder what is behind his

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Duveyoung
below --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: snip And, even here at FFL we see long time meditators and long time initiators disagreeing with one another about effortlessness. The movement never

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: snip This is an important point: TM teachers were never taught mantra shastra, therefore they're really not competent to teach much about mantra at all, let alone the evolution of mantra practice or the varieties of meditation

RE: [FairfieldLife] David Sieveking film

2009-03-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Fiske Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:02 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Sieveking film Has there been any discussion of David Sieveking and his documentary film on

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? Possessive Indignation

2009-03-29 Thread grate . swan
a: I went to the fights last night and a meditation chat group broke out. b: Its metaphyscial darwinism. The highest bliss wins out. And devours the inferior methods. c: But instead of letting go, enjoying boundaries dissolving, some of the dialogue reeks of anal clutching. a: Well, clearly

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re:

[FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: snip To me, this thread is woefully needing a scholar to come forth and do proper battle with Vaj about what constitutes effort. He's given some very clear statements that might be right or wrong, but they're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's a TM teacher? Possessive Indignation

2009-03-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: a: I went to the fights last night and a meditation chat group broke out. The TM TB mentality and tendency to argue put into perspective, in four short cartoon panels:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch)

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Again with the bullshit word. Come on, Judy, haven't I been behaving well lately? Haven't I held back the personal attacks? Why attack my integrity with such vitriol? It means someone's tugged on her security blanket. Don't tug on Judy's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? Possessive Indignation

2009-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2009, at 3:20 PM, grate.swan wrote: a: I went to the fights last night and a meditation chat group broke out. b: Its metaphyscial darwinism. The highest bliss wins out. And devours the inferior methods. c: But instead of letting go, enjoying boundaries dissolving, some

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