FWIW, Robin said this passage from Science of Being and the Art of Living
perfectly described his experience of enlightenment:
The Lord speaks through him, the omnipresent cosmic life gains expression in
his activity, the omniscient is expressed in the limitations of the man's
individual
Actually I'm not adept at finding stuff via Neo's advanced search feature;
it's horrendously designed and fundamentally crippled. So I'm afraid you can't
count on me to find stuff. I may get lucky, but it's a crapshoot.
I suggested Barry retrieve your long exchange with Robin because he
Boy, I'll say. Her logic and her sense had me pegged as a devout Christian,
if you can wrap your mind around that idiocy. And she has yet to acknowledge
that huge goof. She and Stevie are quite a pair, aren't they?
Share, do yourself a favor and don't try using logic. In your case, that is
Um, after suddenly being thrust into what seemed to be Unity Consciousness on
that mountain, and then having Maharishi apparently confirm it, why would Robin
need to study the Scriptures? He was living them. (See my post with the SBAL
quote.)
he never appeared interested in learning more -
12:53 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Robin's experience was of union with God. He believes it was a delusion.
So, it looks like we are agreed: Robin's experience of a union with God' was
delusional. And, Robin did not understand the basics of TM or yoga. Robin was
delusional
It's called having fun, Richard. The most fun either of us ever had on FFL,
in fact. We had a wonderful time throwing each other under the bus. And then an
even better time laughing privately at the few gullible fools who thought we
were serious.
Do you think it may have run mostly in one
is pretty
good. My impression is that he had nothing to do with e-mails, and seemed to
predate his participation here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
You've got something screwy here, Stevie. He may have been talking about
email, in which case he probably meant
In case anybody missed what I wrote earlier:
Oh, one bit of inside info from my private communications with Robin: Robin's
last post was his attempt to wrap up the argument Curtis had forced on him and
get out of FFL for good. He was sick of the place. He neither expected nor
wanted Curtis
Robin was a TM teacher. He never took any MIU courses, nor did he ever live in
Fairfield, except for staying there when he visited with his group in 1983..
See my post quoting SBAL for what Robin said his experience was of Unity
Consciousness. He wrote other posts about his experiences, but
I was addressing Share, not you, Richard.
But Eastern Orthodox Christianity, of course, affirms that God became man in
Jesus Christ, just as Western Christianity does.
Your question makes no sense, BTW. Of course Robin didn't get the idea that
man became God in Jesus Christ from
Um, John, this isn't a speculation, it's well-documented fact. Did you
miswrite?
There's current speculation that life might have evolved before humans
existed on earth.
when it becomes a seamless component of life. Better
luck on his next attempt. :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
FWIW, Robin said this passage from Science of Being and the Art of Living
perfectly described his experience of enlightenment:
The Lord speaks
Actually, Ann, I don't recall anyone having tried to use it to claim Robin was
serious recently except Richard, who's just trolling. Before that, the last
folks to do it, way back when but months after the posts themselves, were
Curtis and Vaj (and Curtis surely knew otherwise; he thought he
events but I do
really enjoy the Olympics and also Wimbledon.
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 1:34 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
We've had this discussion before, Share. Yes, it's inaccurate. Search your
memory. And my beliefs, such as they may be, have nothing whatsoever to do
I'm sorry, you're talking about life existing on earth before human beings??
E.g., bacteria, plants, animals, etc.? That isn't a matter of solid fact, as
far as you're concerned?
Are you a creationist? Even the Bible describes life existing before Adam and
Eve.
Judy,
For me
out of it.
Go figure.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Actually I'm not adept at finding stuff via Neo's advanced search feature;
it's horrendously designed and fundamentally crippled. So I'm afraid you can't
count on me to find stuff. I may get lucky
on, even it's being a disagreeable person most of the time.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Oh, didn't know that. Bully for you. Because I knew you weren't capable of
using the Neo search to find it.
Barry would be happy to help you (or anybody else) out
hat on, even it's being a disagreeable person most of the time.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Oh, didn't know that. Bully for you. Because I knew you weren't capable of
using the Neo search to find it.
Barry would be happy to help you (or anybody else) out
Ohh! Whew. I'm glad to hear that. You said, There's current speculation that
life might have evolved before humans existed on earth, so I thought you meant
speculation that life might have evolved on earth before humans existed. Which
made no sense to me whatsoever, since that's obviously not
But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written,
right? You did see his long post here about that (made after someone here dug
up the piece and posted it in his absence and without his knowledge to
embarrass him), didn't you?
I'm a little surprised that you wouldn't
Say, Share, when are you going to acknowledge your embarrassing mistakes about
my religious beliefs and what I wrote to Seraphita? Or are you just going to
pretend that never happened?
Please emptybill, no salad in winter! The vata is already plenty vitiated!
Namaste (-:
On
Oh, that's rich, coming from FFL's inveterate liar.
As far as I'm aware, no one here has any basis for thinking Robin was anything
but completely honest in his posts.
Actually, don't we have only their word on it that Maharishi said that?
Robin's word is worth nothing
Why is it
can surmise what I intended), and from what I know about it, it
seemed to describe him.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
What's NPS, and how were you in a position to think Robin had it, whatever
it is?
As for Robin, yes I found him extraordinary in many ways
I beg your pardon? What exactly is your objection to the statement of a simple
fact? There was no response from you required.
Judy, go start you silliness with someone else, please.
Oh, and of course you were never around Robin during his enlightened days
anyway.
What's NPS, and how
Barry's been hopefully predicting this for years, and it hasn't happened yet.
(BTW, Lame, baby, lame was my comment to Bhairitu, not his to me. Opsie.)
Judy, go start you silliness with someone else, please.
Lame, baby, lame.
What is she going to do when *no one* falls for her
inaccurate to use the phrase enlightened days.
On Friday, February 7, 2014 8:04 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
Oh, and of course you were never around Robin during his enlightened days
anyway.
What's NPS, and how were you in a position to think Robin had it,
whatever
to refer to it as genuine enlightenment.
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:48 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
Oh, that's rich, coming from FFL's inveterate liar.
As far as I'm aware, no one here has any basis for thinking Robin was anything
but completely honest in his posts
As if you had the foggiest idea.
Of course, a simple yes or no would be meaningless. I have no more basis for
believing one or the other than you do.
Oh, and of course you were never around Robin during his enlightened days
anyway.
No one was. There *were* no enlightened days.
misunderstood about
what I wrote.
Judy, I have no idea what you are talking about. But, please, proceed
according to your fancy.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
I beg your pardon? What exactly is your objection to the statement of a simple
fact
to her?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
That makes two of us. Why did you accuse me of trying to start silliness
with you when all I did was state a simple fact, that you didn't know Robin
during his enlightened period? Far as I'm aware, there's no argument about
I wonder how many more times Barry will need to get shot down in flames before
it dawns on him that he appears a screeching, babbling idiot.
No one was. There *were* no enlightened days. There was only Narcissistic
Personality Disorder acting itself out.
Hee, hee, says Bawwy who was over
is not something he feels is a positive state to be in.
On Friday, February 7, 2014 8:04 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
Oh, and of course you were never around Robin during his enlightened days
anyway.
What's NPS, and how were you in a position to think Robin had
:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
You misunderstood him, Share (even as many times as he explained it). He
called enlightenment per se a delusion--his, Maharishi's, anybody's. He did not
say he was deluded to believe he was enlightened.
OK, just read this now after posting my own
Again we see Barry's perennial confusion between So-and-so said and What
So-and-so said is true. No matter how many times it's explained to him, he
simply cannot grasp the distinction, so he makes the same stpid mistake
over and over.
I believe Robin was sincere in what he said. I
, do you think Robin thinks ALL forms of realization, awakening,
enlightenment, etc. in ALL traditions are a delusion?
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:28 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@...
wrote:
Absolutely correct. He was insistent that enlightenment is a real state of
consciousness
you also believe that there can
be no ontological union between God and human?
Another question: was Robin saying that he experienced union with God?
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:32 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@...
wrote:
Let me put it this way: He believes all forms
to questions that
are incoherent.
I suggest you drop out of this discussion altogether. It's way over your head.
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:53 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@...
wrote:
Yes, that's what it means. Me, I haven't a clue. (What do my beliefs have to
do
could he know if it is right
or wrong?
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 1:34 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
We've had this discussion before, Share. Yes, it's inaccurate. Search your
memory. And my beliefs, such as they may be, have nothing whatsoever to do with
this discussion
You missed the word ontological.
Quoting me:
“Let me put it this way: He believes all forms of enlightenment, etc., that
entail the experience of union with God are delusionary. His viewpoint is
strictly Judeo-Christian in that regard: God is wholly, immutably Other; there
can be no
emptybill doesn't know what he's talking about with regard to Robin, his reams
of quotes notwithstanding.
Daily confessional with his friend at Starbuck's?? Robin never said anything
remotely like that.
Both Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox theologies have clearly explicated
the
confides thoughts,
feelings.
I would say this was a couple months before he stopped posting.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
emptybill doesn't know what he's talking about with regard to Robin, his reams
of quotes notwithstanding.
Daily confessional with his
.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
You've got something screwy here, Stevie. He may have been talking about
email, in which case he probably meant with me. But there was no daily
confessional.
My recollection is that he did, indeed say that he has a friend he meets
is pretty
good. My impression is that he had nothing to do with e-mails, and seemed to
predate his participation here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
You've got something screwy here, Stevie. He may have been talking about
email, in which case he probably meant
@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Oh, hilarious. Of course, this doesn't say at all what you claimed, does it,
now?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328672
Judy, I don't know what the point of arguing about it is. If he said it, it
will be there in the record
, 2014 12:53 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@...
wrote:
Yes, that's what it means. Me, I haven't a clue. (What do my beliefs have to
do with this?) Yes, Robin's experience was of union with God. He believes it
was a delusion.
Judy, does ontological union mean: due to their respective
, this is pretty revealing. I didn't realize how deep the
attachment went. Do you think it may have run mostly in one direction, though?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
My memory is excellent, and I followed Robin's posts more closely than anyone
here. The two
is that he had nothing to do with e-mails, and seemed to
predate his participation here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
You've got something screwy here, Stevie. He may have been talking about
email, in which case he probably meant with me. But there was no daily
? Favorite
summer event? Strangely, I don't watch much TV let alone sports events but I do
really enjoy the Olympics and also Wimbledon.
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 1:34 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
We've had this discussion before, Share. Yes, it's inaccurate. Search your
recollection was close enough I think. But, I realize I am treading on your
sacred ground here, so I'm going to try to tip toe away, so you can work this
out on your own.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Nowhere near, Stevie baby. Here's what you claimed
at Starbucks regularly to talk to
and confess. Can you clarify Steve, or maybe it is so obvious to you that you
don't see the need but I have definitely missed it here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Oh, hilarious. Of course, this doesn't say at all what you claimed
if it was at a distance.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Stevie, honest, it doesn't hurt me when you make a big fuss about something
and get it badly wrong.
I'm sure there are lots of people who know things about Robin that I don't.
But you aren't one of them
He's been well trained by Barry. What do you expect?
Is this where things start to gravitate below the belt? And if so, why Steve?
Is it not possible to engage in a discussion without getting personal and
far-fetched in your unfounded theories?
?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
My memory is excellent, and I followed Robin's posts more closely than anyone
here. The two of us were good friends and had extensive email correspondence.
You repeatedly get things wrong that have happened in the past. I never saw
him say
Wow, has it been that many holes you've dug for yourself and then couldn't get
out of?
How many times have you said such over the past 17 years? I'd say over a
thousand.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Translation: He can't figure out how to dig himself
it, it
will be there in the record. Without being too boastful, my memory is pretty
good. My impression is that he had nothing to do with e-mails, and seemed to
predate his participation here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
You've got something screwy here, Stevie. He
No, go look up the fallacy of appeal to authority. You don't know what you're
talking about, no surprise.
You are wrong not because Ann is an authority, but because, duh, you got it
wrong, and the evidence is on the record in the posts in this exchange plus
Robin's post from December 2012.
that he said his
enlightenment was a delusion. I don't think it is attacking of someone to refer
to what they themselves said.
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 2:35 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
Again, Share, your question is incoherent. Robin never said enlightenment
.
Oh, and what did the folks on your home theater forums have to say about Perry
Mason?
On 02/06/2014 09:33 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
The relevance of Netflix's suggestions is NOT NOT NOT what this article is
about, Bhairitu. If you actually have a look at it, I'm pretty
The funny thing is that if Barry had discovered the article I recommended to
Bhairitu, he'd be the one touting it on FFL.
Suggestions come from all fronts.
Indeed they do. That's why I cannot fathom anyone being interested in a
supposed algorithm to categorize movies and TV to better
Oh, such an announcement would prove that TM works beyond any shadow of a
doubt. ;-)
There is no reason that anyone should be surprised about this. The WHOLE THING
-- meaning Maharishi's teaching and the promise of enlightenment -- has been
a con since Day One. The only reason it works is
1. Nobody went batshit crazy or had their buttons pushed by Barry's posts
this morning. A couple of us did snicker at him, though. That must be what has
his panties in a twist.
2. Only four people (counting Nabby, just now) commented on his posts, not
five.
3. There were only seven posts
/archive/2014/01/how-netflix-reverse-engineered-hollywood/282679/
On 02/07/2014 04:29 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
I never pay any attention to them. Why do you ask?
So what do you think about Netflix's recommendations of shows for you?
Well, let's take a look
Oooopsie! More hallucinating from Barry (at least if he's referring to FFL). He
can't seem to get his panties untwisted.
Good to chat with people about TV and movies they've actually seen. Much
better than dealing with people who know nothing whatsoever about them, but
repost month-old
My God, somebody get him a prescription for antipsychotics, quick. He's been
having this hallucination off and on for years, but now it seems to have taken
him over completely.
Haven't seen it, though, so unlike the person on this forum who likes to
comment about films she's never seen, I
Over the edge. He's gone over the edge. He can no longer tell the difference
between reality and his fantasies. He isn't lying; he actually believes what
he's saying.
Of course, I've never denied writing what Barry quotes. That's one of his many
hallucinations connected to his ridiculous
AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Ooh, sorry for the link-lack.
So what did you think of the Perry Mason phenomenon?
They've always been a bit laughable for me because they are recommending films
I've already seen. What Netflix can't do if know that you've seen via
and laughing) drop in to post.
So reverse engineering their suggestions technology might have led to gaffaws
and grins down in Los Gatos.
On 02/07/2014 10:05 AM, authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote:
Ooh, sorry for the link-lack.
So what did you think of the Perry Mason
Barry's memory has always been poor, and he's always recycled his posts, but
really, the repetition has been getting worse and worse recently.
There is no reason that anyone should be surprised about this. The WHOLE THING
-- meaning Maharishi's teaching and the promise of enlightenment --
And if he did, people like Barry would be quick to point out that it didn't
mean a thing and was just part of the scam, as Stevie says (And heaven help
the poor person who was said to embody enlightenment.)
Barry's smart enough to know what a joke his demand is, but he thinks we're
too
Don't know about Rhymer, but Maharishi didn't make any public announcements
about Robin's enlightenment. It was to an audience of CPs on (I think) an ATR,
a comment he made about Robin's own account of what had happened to him a few
days previously that everyone present, including Robin, took
What's NPS, and how were you in a position to think Robin had it, whatever it
is?
As for Robin, yes I found him extraordinary in many ways. Whether he had
classic NPS, I couldn't say, but it sure seemed that way to me much of the
time. But then again, it doesn't register with me much if a
Oh, and of course you were never around Robin during his enlightened days
anyway.
What's NPS, and how were you in a position to think Robin had it,
whatever it is?
As for Robin, yes I found him extraordinary in many ways. Whether he had
classic NPS, I couldn't say, but it sure seemed
Oddly enough, the article I linked to doesn't deal at all with the
appropriateness of Netflix's suggestions as far as viewers are concerned. It's
a completely different--and mind-blowing--slant on how Netflix operates.
Lately, I've had better suggestions from members here on Fairfield Life,
Well, I've spent a goodly amount of time around a number of famous people, and
both these sets of comments seem relevant and insightful to me. (Three of these
people had been famous for many years before I ever met them. They had
accommodated themselves to their fame early on and hadn't let it
, authfriend@... authfriend@...
wrote:
Well, I've spent a goodly amount of time around a number of famous people,
and both these sets of comments seem relevant and insightful to me. (Three of
these people had been famous for many years before I ever met them. They had
accommodated
a lot of
attention directed at me.
On Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:22 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@...
wrote:
Well, I've spent a goodly amount of time around a number of famous people,
and both these sets of comments seem relevant and insightful to me. (Three of
these people had
laughable.
On 02/05/2014 09:37 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
How Netflix Reverse Engineered Hollywood To understand how people look for
movies, the video service created 76,897 micro-genres. We took the genre
descriptions, broke them down to their key words, … and built our
FWIW, Michael, I believe prep courses of various durations were required from
the beginning for ordinary meditators to take the TM-Sidhis. Over time the
requirements grew less and less stringent.
Due to intense and ongoing unstressing on the part of MANY participants of
the new program,
courses remember when the preps were instituted and under what circumstances I
would appreciate knowing.
On Thu, 2/6/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... authfriend@...
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Marshy's
this particular article is about.
Nothing to do with determining or appealing to tastes, you see.
But heaven forbid you actually read the article and find out.
Oh, and what did the folks on your home theater forums have to say about Perry
Mason?
On 02/06/2014 09:33 AM, authfriend
With heroin, it's worse than just chemical or psychological. Heroin use
permanently changes the physical structure of the brain. Once a person has
become addicted, even if they stop using and stay clean for decades (as Hoffman
did), they still have the brain of an addict and are thus at very,
I think he was hoping Steen would sound more Jewish. Note his question as to
whether it was my mother's maiden name.
Buck, you are hilarious. You don't even know Judy's last name. And as if
she is going to respond to you in all seriousness to this specious post of
yours. Om to you too.
Oh, and notice Buck's ridiculous paranoia:
And there has been a long period of a lot of dilution in the archive by
someone.
As Richard himself admitted in post #368186, nothing he says is to be taken
seriously.
Professional editors don't usually mix up their professional work and
their personal activities. At least most editors don't use the company
computer at work to send and receive personal messages to
Share is referring to the TV series Breaking Bad.
Ann, I was making reference to some TV shows in which people become drug
dealers to support their family.
the Will Rogers sense of humor and wisdom.
Does this mean that the phrase 'Nothing I post is to be taken seriously' in
post #368186 should not be taken seriously?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
As Richard himself admitted in post #368186, nothing he says is to be taken
Perfect. Thank you so much for making my point, Share.
I'm with Maharishi on this one: Everything is important and nothing is
serious.
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 1:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@...
wrote:
Oh, you and Xeno go right ahead and take what he says seriously
How Netflix Reverse Engineered Hollywood To understand how people look for
movies, the video service created 76,897 micro-genres. We took the genre
descriptions, broke them down to their key words, … and built our own new-genre
generator.
This article from The Atlantic by Alexis Madrigal is
scholars. FairfieldLife and Fairfield and TM is quite
topical to quite a lot of people lurking. And, who do you think reads this
place? Your audience? Who do you really write for when you post? Some writers
should rightfully be embarrassed.
-Buck
awoelflebater writes:
authfriend writes
I suspect most folks would say that whether listening to music while meditating
is appropriate depends on the specific type of meditation.
Shamelessly hijacking Richard's thread and Subject line, I post a link for
those few here who might have been intrigued by recent discussions of Rama -
Inoffensively tinkly, by me.
http://www.ramameditationsociety.org/canyons-light-cayman-blue
http://www.ramameditationsociety.org/canyons-light-cayman-blue
Oh dear, just a tad too elevator-ish for my taste. No highs, no lows, no
texture, no nuance. Musical pablum.
Looks like they got the dealers, but they can't be prosecuted for Hoffman's
death in New York State. And there isn't going to be some big public Trial of
the Century. Hoffman was no innocent. Have the book thrown at him?? You're
sounding like a bad TV cop show. Ever heard of plea bargains?
Well, that will certainly discourage those who might have been inspired by your
review (but not by Nabby's original recommendation) to watch the clips.
Opsie...
I was actually hoping for some quick-witted banter between fast-thinking
comedians, but Nooo. Color me so
Uh, guys, it was a publicity stunt. They knew beforehand how much they were
going to give him. The gold was for his further scientific work; he didn't get
to keep it for his personal use. (And this was in 1998, pre-King Tony,
pre-rajas; he was wearing a suit, not robes. Looked really silly
Visiting scholars?? Of what? From where?
Dear Dear FFL,
A Special Thank You to everyone who added in to this thread as it developed.
It was appreciated very much by several visiting scholars who came recently to
FairfieldLife looking in on this particular subject thread. You were very
Xeno has certainly made himself look extraordinarily smarmy with this load of
crap. He's reviving a smear originated by that Model of Probity
Curtisdeltablues, as he was trying to weasel his way out of a cocoon of
dishonesty he'd woven around himself. The smear was picked up later by Share as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox
yikes! Thanks, emptybill for delivering imho, the perfect koan for FFL!
Contrary to thee, I always lie.
You'll have to ask someone who knows something about the Italian justice system
and the Amanda Knox case.
Judy,
There appears to be something wrong with the Italian justice system. In my
mind, if the evidence is tainted by the police, it cannot be used to prove the
prosecutor's case.
Wow, ya think?
noozguru I always figured that astrology is a science, meaning that people
observed over and over that certain kinds of events happened when there were
certain configurations in the sky.
On Saturday, February 1, 2014 2:23 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
So
We may have to bring in the Yahoo-Groups Guidelines Administration to protect
ourselves and the community here, You trying to fight bullshit with bullshit,
Buck? As you know, there ain't no such administration, and even if there were,
it would have zero interest in protecting us from someone
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