Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Vaj
On Mar 30, 2008, at 4:15 PM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: And what difference is there between paths to enlightenment? There is One Reality which is known or not known. This Reality is all that is. Well I know some would agree with such an absolute statement. But no, I don't believe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Angela Mailander
Are we not confusing the path with the goal here? There are a gazillion paths. Not all lead somewhere we'd want to go--all true enough. But One Reality refers to the transcendent, does it not? If there is some content in the transcendent that would serve to distinguish it from some other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Vaj
On Mar 31, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Angela Mailander wrote: Are we not confusing the path with the goal here? There are a gazillion paths. Not all lead somewhere we'd want to go--all true enough. But One Reality refers to the transcendent, does it not? If there is some content in the transcendent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Vaj
On Mar 31, 2008, at 11:44 AM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 30, 2008, at 4:15 PM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: And what difference is there between paths to enlightenment? There is One Reality which is known

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Angela Mailander
That was my point precisely. There is NO distinction in the transcendent. No distinction means no distinction: No distinguisher and nothing to distinguish. So if that is the goal, how could it be different unless it contained some distinguishing characteristic--which, by definition, it does not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Angela Mailander
This whole discussion is about semantics--and, as such, it can go on forever without shedding any light anywhere. --- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angela Mailander wrote: So if that is the goal, how could it be different unless it contained some distinguishing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Vaj
On Mar 31, 2008, at 2:15 PM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: The only path that matters is the one you are on. In the midst of this experience of reality that we find ourselves in, we seek to discern value and meaning and purpose, gravitating towards the teachings and practices that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Vaj
On Mar 31, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: This whole discussion is about semantics--and, as such, it can go on forever without shedding any light anywhere. Angela, that's always been part of Richard's game. Due to flooding in the midwest, he was actually spotted recently in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-31 Thread Vaj
On Mar 31, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Angela Mailander wrote: This whole discussion is about semantics--and, as such, it can go on forever without shedding any light anywhere. Vaj wrote: Angela, that's always been part of Richard's game. Due to flooding in the midwest,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-30 Thread Vaj
On Mar 30, 2008, at 4:55 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the Hinduism Today website (6 schools of Saivism).: Gorakshanatha, in Viveka Martanda, gives his view of samadhi: Samadhi is the name of that state of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-30 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Michael wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not imagining anything about you Michael, I just go by what you say. No I think thats hard to do. Words almost always trigger divers responses according to the associations we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-30 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:24 PM, Michael wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually suspect, based on things you've shared in the past, that we actually have quite a bit in common. Bhakti type approaches were just never my cup of tea, that's all. On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-30 Thread Vaj
On Mar 30, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Michael wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:24 PM, Michael wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: I actually suspect, based on things you've shared in the past, that we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-30 Thread Vaj
On Mar 30, 2008, at 2:07 PM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: Vaj, what distinction is there between the unenlightened on any path? Whether the ignorant adhere to belief in god or to belief in no god, the problems of injustice and atrocities are directly attributed to ignorance. The atheists

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gorakshanatha's view of Samadhi

2008-03-29 Thread Vaj
On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Michael wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's quite a nice state, since that type of equanimity sees no distinction or preference, the polarities that give rise to tensions just simply lost all their juice. (...)