Yesterday I posted, after an attempt by two Robin Carlsen cultists to
bring him up again and clarify what he believed as only they can:
And on this forum, only two people believe him. Fascinating that they
turn out to be the two gullible women who became his cult followers. One
signed on to his
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfYxlmWiFFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfYxlmWiFFk
May I propose a cordial contest: Adaptive pitch (AP), those who still do TM vs.
those who don't anymore
or never have?
My result for AP was 0,685 Hz...
Don't worry, surely the Americans soon will find an excuse to start another
war. They'll loose but that's not the point. Obama needs to win a war, the
economy desperately needs another war. It will happen.
0,688 is exceptional :-) I did 1,25 which is still very good :-)
Don't worry, the Americans will soon find a reason to start another war. Obama
needs a war to win (he won't) and the capitalists desperately needs another war
to save the economy. It will probably happen sooner rather than later.
Cool! But what a shame they only got one of the footprints up before they got
washed away.
I wonder what they were like, whether they were actually pioneering creatures
and seeking out new lands or just spreading out like animals do when the tribe
gets too big and kicks out the young un's
I will try to make this my last comment on the nonentity who was Robin
Carlsen today, because there seems to be a lingering misconception on
this forum about what his teaching and his cult were all about. I have
my own opinion on the subject, and will state it -- as what it is:
OPINION. I do so
Earlier I said that I'd try to make my second post about Robin Carlsen
my last here on FFL today. And I did try, but foreseeing a bunch of
retorts from the two cultists asserting that *I* am the one obsessing
about him, not them, I'll post for the record (and for those for whom
the Yahoo Search
Obviously you are living in some sort of Alice -in-Wonderland dream world to
ask such questions - I am not anti-TM, only a realist. I merely put together a
timeline of what M and the TMO has sold and when they did it. Its always been
about the money. And I have created an updated version - look
About the same time when I learned TM, bought a Japanese Strat-copy, which
learned
to tune by listening to the interference beat. I guess that's improved my
ears quite a lot...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_%28acoustics%29#Binaural_beats
Judy I'm going by MY OWN sense of what Robin said, and using logic. Thus if he
said that enlightenment per se is a delusion and he was enlightened. Then he is
saying, according to logic, that he was deluded. And I think he went even
further than that, saying he was under the control of outside
You are a funny lady Judy. As I said before, I'll let you run with your
fantasies and delusions. It would not be in your best interest, at least in
the short term, to disabuse you of them. Everything eventually comes out in
the wash.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@...
Yes Judy. Whatever you say Judy. Appeal to Authority is a card you play
everyday here. Only you call it, Appeal to My Authority. Basically a big
joke.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
No, go look up the fallacy of appeal to authority. You don't know what you're
Well, obviously there is no correlation between spiritual enlightenment and
pitch-sensitivity. Listen to Maharishi sing the puja. He was simply tone deaf.
No wonder he was not a bhajan singing kind of saint. Ours likely would have
been an entirely different spiritual regeneration movement had
Many Indians sing the Poja that way, I suppose they are all tone deaf ;-)
...without permission from your carrier, is still a crime. It's difficult
to find another issue that has such overwhelming and bipartisan support,
and it's difficult to understand why Congress still refuses to act.
'One Year Later, Unlocking Your Phone Is Still A Crime'
The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it
back in your pocket. - Will Rogers
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:
Richard, and some days you are the imploding space between the two!
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 7:46 AM,
Ann and I have both explained to you, several times each, that YOUR OWN sense
of what Robin said, and your use of what you call logic, are seriously flawed.
It appears you are intellectually incapable of grasping that explanation. You
haven't addressed it at all, even to disagree with it; you
Unfortunately, even if someone were holding a gun to your head, you would be
utterly unable to come up with any fantasies and delusions on my part.
You are a funny lady Judy. As I said before, I'll let you run with your
fantasies and delusions. It would not be in your best interest, at
He can't even acknowledge he got it wrong about Robin never having addressed
Ann directly, a matter of facts on the record. What a moral midget. Life must
really be a terrifying experience for him.
Yes Judy. Whatever you say Judy. Appeal to Authority is a card you play
everyday here.
On 2/8/2014 12:15 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
I believe Robin was sincere in what he said
Except of course when Robin was posting a parody. Go figure.
Now that the USA has gotten out of the full scale wars of the Bush era, there
are US Marine Corps amphibious troop ships sitting unused at anchor that could
readily be lent to the UN for peace-keeping meditations. I feel we should
occupy at least one of those ships and steam out for world peace
On 2/8/2014 12:32 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Let me put it this way: He believes all forms of enlightenment, etc.,
that entail the experience of union with God are delusionary. His
viewpoint is strictly Judeo-Christian in that regard: God is wholly,
immutably Other; there can be no
This series of posts from Barry is so obviously off-the-wall insane I'm not
even going to try to address them. They're evidence of desperately serious
psychopathology and fanatical obsession that have completely taken over his
mind. I won't even call them full of lies, because he's so far gone
Now that the USA has gotten out of the full scale wars of the Bush era, there
are US Marine Corps amphibious troop ships sitting unused at anchor that could
readily be lent to the UN for peace-keeping meditations. I feel we should
occupy at least one of those ships and steam out for world peace
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote:
Anne, you are saying, Trust me, because I know what is going on. I'm not
going to tell you anything about it, but I'm in the know
No I'm not. I am saying the post you retrieved from the archives has nothing
to do with your
On 2/8/2014 12:46 PM, Share Long wrote:
Another question: was Robin saying that he experienced union with God?
Apparently, Share, this is what Robin believed - that he had achieved
union with God, which was delusional. It is delusional in the sense
that he thought it was true, and delusional
Bhagavad-Gita VI:27
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/8/2014 12:32 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Let me put it this way: He believes all forms of enlightenment, etc., that
entail the experience of union with God are delusionary. His viewpoint
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
No, go look up the fallacy of appeal to authority. You don't know what you're
talking about, no surprise.
You are wrong not because Ann is an authority, but because, duh, you got it
wrong, and the evidence is on the record in
On 2/8/2014 12:53 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Robin's experience was of union with God. He believes it was a delusion.
So, it looks like we are agreed: Robin's experience of a union with
God' was delusional. And, Robin did not understand the basics of TM or
yoga. Robin was delusional and
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Judy I'm going by MY OWN sense of what Robin said, and using logic. Thus if he
said that enlightenment per se is a delusion and he was enlightened. Then he is
saying, according to logic, that he was deluded. And I think he went
FWIW, Robin said this passage from Science of Being and the Art of Living
perfectly described his experience of enlightenment:
The Lord speaks through him, the omnipresent cosmic life gains expression in
his activity, the omniscient is expressed in the limitations of the man's
individual
On 2/8/2014 1:21 PM, Share Long wrote:
My point is that Eastern traditions define enlightenment as union with
God.
Actually, no - union with God isn't mentioned in the Upanishads and
not in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. Of the Six Systems of Hinduism, only one
system is theistic. According to
On 2/8/2014 2:58 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
God knows he said a lot in his time at FFL so you won't lack for
reading material.
Can anyone on this forum point out where Robin posted to FFL that he
believed that enlightenment consisted of being united with God. If he
did, he is
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/8/2014 12:32 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Let me put it this way: He believes all forms of enlightenment, etc., that
entail the experience of union with God are delusionary. His viewpoint is
strictly
On 2/8/2014 5:20 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
he never appeared interested in learning more - whether about
Catholic/Orthodox Christianity, Yogic Vedanta or Shankara’s Advaita
Vedanta. I attribute this to a lack of genuine humility although he
was constantly espousing a pseudo-humility.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
This series of posts from Barry is so obviously off-the-wall insane I'm not
even going to try to address them. They're evidence of desperately serious
psychopathology and fanatical obsession that have completely taken over his
So, you say I am mistaken about where he might have met with his friend, but
you don't say where the meetings or get togethers might have taken place. For
all we know it was Starbucks.
You say that I am mistaken that it was not a confessional, but you don't say
what it was.
All you say
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/8/2014 12:53 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Robin's experience was of union with God. He believes it was a delusion.
So, it looks like we are agreed: Robin's experience of a union with God' was
delusional.
On 2/8/2014 8:26 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you think it may have run mostly in one direction, though?
The parody Robin posted about Judy was very revealing - why would
Robin do that if they were such good friends. It's sort of like Robin
throwing Judy under the bus. Go figure.
How much is really enough essentially to be able to meditate freely/ What would
be Basic Living in Switzerland to just be a meditator? The USA. China. Brazil.
Greenland. South Africa. To have a standard of enough time and income to
meditate standard in the working day. Twice a day.
A
Actually I'm not adept at finding stuff via Neo's advanced search feature;
it's horrendously designed and fundamentally crippled. So I'm afraid you can't
count on me to find stuff. I may get lucky, but it's a crapshoot.
I suggested Barry retrieve your long exchange with Robin because he
Avert the danger! Before it arises!
I wish I could find a copy of that song - always felt inspired by it.
On Sun, 2/9/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Iranian Warships Sailing to the US?
To:
Boy, I'll say. Her logic and her sense had me pegged as a devout Christian,
if you can wrap your mind around that idiocy. And she has yet to acknowledge
that huge goof. She and Stevie are quite a pair, aren't they?
Share, do yourself a favor and don't try using logic. In your case, that is
Ann, I was responding to what Judy said that Robin said about the nature of
enlightenment. This is a forum about that, among other topics. Judy used the
phrases enlightened days and genuine enlightenment with regards to Robin. Then
she presented Robin's idea that enlightenment, including his,
Um, after suddenly being thrust into what seemed to be Unity Consciousness on
that mountain, and then having Maharishi apparently confirm it, why would Robin
need to study the Scriptures? He was living them. (See my post with the SBAL
quote.)
he never appeared interested in learning more -
On 2/8/2014 9:21 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Neither Eastern Orthodox nor Western Christianity permit the view that
humans can become ontologically one with God. That remains the
seperative divide between Eastern and Western religions.
What Eastern Orthodox philosophy supports the notion
Sharelogic. As hopeless as Barrylogic, Stevielogic, and Rickylogic.
Ann, I was responding to what Judy said that Robin said about the nature of
enlightenment. This is a forum about that, among other topics. Judy used the
phrases enlightened days and genuine enlightenment with regards to
It's called having fun, Richard. The most fun either of us ever had on FFL,
in fact. We had a wonderful time throwing each other under the bus. And then an
even better time laughing privately at the few gullible fools who thought we
were serious.
Do you think it may have run mostly in one
The purpose of studying scriptures is to integrate one's experience of
enlightenment more completely. Also to smooth the process which I understand
can be quite jarring.
On Sunday, February 9, 2014 9:38 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Um, after suddenly being
Robin has, as I've already pointed out, described all this in his posts. There
was nothing new in the post Stevie misremembered.
And obviously, as I also pointed out, Ann is not going to reveal any
additional specific details of Robin's private life that he may have mentioned
to her but not
Richard, about UC being unity with God: in the Gita Maharishi writes that at a
certain point it is between the devotee and God whether they become one or stay
two so that there can be that flow of devotion. It is from this and many
Maharishi tapes that I got the idea that UC means union with
On 2/9/2014 8:29 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
And it all goes downhill from there.
This thread started out with a fib told by that guy in South Corolina
that took over a dead man's name for an alias.
So, it was pretty much downhill from the beginning. Now we find out that
Robin believed
Ann, it was enough of an event to ride the Vancouver buses with all those jolly
people attending the 2010 Olympics!
I'm with you about Neo and the archives so I probably won't be doing any
searches. And in any case, I was replying to what Judy said the the internal
lack of logic with what
On 2/9/2014 9:02 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
I don't like him even enough to feel sorry for him but others are, no
doubt, capable of greater empathy than me.
If Robin believed that MMY taught that enlightenment was a union with
God you've got to go figure that Robin really missed the
On 2/9/2014 4:45 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
/*He *didn't like it* that Curtis didn't respond to the 12,000-word
four posts in which he ranted obsessively about Curtis And
Everything That Was Wrong With Him. He *didn't like it* that no one
else seemed interested in his continuing diatribes against
On 2/9/2014 10:00 AM, Share Long wrote:
in the Gita Maharishi writes that at a certain point it is between the
devotee and God whether they become one or stay two so that there can
be that flow of devotion.
The key word here is devotion, Share. Robin's main problem may have
been his belief
The mouse that roared?
On 02/08/2014 09:35 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
One wonders about the current leadership of Iran. He appears to be
intent on intimidating the US military forces. But they don't have
the firepower to shoot it out with the US. Or, it could be just a bluff.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/9/2014 10:00 AM, Share Long wrote:
in the Gita Maharishi writes that at a certain point it is between the
devotee and God whether they become one or stay two so that there can
be that flow of devotion.
The key word
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqgtsai2aKY
BTW, Raam is also a good mantra for calming vata, so make a bhajan out
of the song.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/9/2014 4:45 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
He *didn't like it* that Curtis didn't respond to the 12,000-word four posts
in which he ranted obsessively about Curtis And Everything That Was Wrong With
Him. He *didn't like it* that no
Music for deep relaxation and integration of body and mind:
[image: Inline image 1]
Vijay Ghate (tabla), Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia (bansuri), Darshan Kumari
(tampura),
Jean-Christophe Bonnafous (bansuri). Photo by Burkhard Meißner, MERU.
I want to write this to thank those on this forum who recommended this
series. I've just binge-watched my way through the first season, and I
see what you were raving about.
It's a drama about a dysfunctional family. But then, so were Macbeth
and Hamlet.
And no, of course the language of this
There's current speculation that life might have evolved before humans existed
on earth. IMO, it's also possible that humanoids existed throughout the
universe before humans on earth evolved. This may be due to the phenomenon
called the holographic principle of the universe. IOW, we are just
On 2/9/2014 11:18 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Which brings up a few questions:
1. Was Robin Carlsen a TM Teacher and what course did he attend to
get certified to teach TM?
2. Did Robin Carlsen complete any courses at MUM, and if so, which
ones?
3. Was Robin so
On 2/9/2014 11:10 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
In fact, this is the kind of thinking that can get people in big
trouble. If Robin believed himself to be God for ten years, then he was
probably delusional - and delusional about TM as well. Certainly he was
mis-informed about Indian Yoga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/9/2014 11:18 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
Which brings up a few questions:
1. Was Robin Carlsen a TM Teacher and what course did he attend to get
certified to teach TM?
2. Did Robin Carlsen
In case anybody missed what I wrote earlier:
Oh, one bit of inside info from my private communications with Robin: Robin's
last post was his attempt to wrap up the argument Curtis had forced on him and
get out of FFL for good. He was sick of the place. He neither expected nor
wanted Curtis
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
Barry wrote:
I've just binge-watched my way through the first season
My point exactly. Watches TV, writes about himself.
Robin was a TM teacher. He never took any MIU courses, nor did he ever live in
Fairfield, except for staying there when he visited with his group in 1983..
See my post quoting SBAL for what Robin said his experience was of Unity
Consciousness. He wrote other posts about his experiences, but
On 2/9/2014 10:48 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Do you have something to say relevant to what I wrote?
The separative divide between Eastern and Western orthodox religions
is that the Western orthodox religion teaches that a man became God in
the person of Jesus Christ. Eastern orthodox
Only ignorant religious dopes and very vain scientists would believe
that the existence of a humanoid species began and only exists on
earth. Nature is always replicating itself and nature is not limited
just to planet earth.
On 02/09/2014 09:28 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
There's current
On 2/9/2014 9:49 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
It's called having fun, Richard. The most fun either of us ever had
on FFL, in fact. We had a wonderful time throwing each other under the
bus. And then an even better time laughing privately at the few
gullible fools who thought we were
I was addressing Share, not you, Richard.
But Eastern Orthodox Christianity, of course, affirms that God became man in
Jesus Christ, just as Western Christianity does.
Your question makes no sense, BTW. Of course Robin didn't get the idea that
man became God in Jesus Christ from
On 2/9/2014 9:44 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sharelogic. As hopeless as Barrylogic, Stevielogic, and Rickylogic.
Versus your logic that you think Robin believed his enlightenment was a
union with God? Nobody believes that unless they are delusional. Where
exactly, did Robin equate being
Um, John, this isn't a speculation, it's well-documented fact. Did you
miswrite?
There's current speculation that life might have evolved before humans
existed on earth.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
It's called having fun, Richard. The most fun either of us ever had on FFL,
in fact. We had a wonderful time throwing each other under the bus. And then an
even better time laughing privately at the few gullible fools who thought
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/9/2014 11:10 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
In fact, this is the kind of thinking that can get people in big
trouble. If Robin believed himself to be God for ten years, then he was
probably
On 2/9/2014 9:38 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Um, after suddenly being thrust into what seemed to be Unity
Consciousness on that mountain, and then having Maharishi apparently
confirm it, why would Robin need to study the Scriptures? He was
living them.
Because, it's not prudent to
On 2/9/2014 11:40 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Go re-read your cereal box, Ricky.
My cereal box doesn't say anything about Robin Carlsen being a TM
Teacher or having initiated anyone into TM, or if Robin completed any
courses at MUM. That's your job as an informant, Ann. But, I've seen
I've been speculating such things since before I could walk John.
There may have been/are/will be other humanoids but not humans. There are so
many ways that life can evolve the chances of two identical things appearing
are vanishingly small. But there could be similarities, we can expect
Thanks for posting this. If Robin rebuked this, and was able to shed it after
some years, it sounds like he didn't get very far, with his integration, of
universal existence. Perhaps he got confused, being immersed in that sort of
language, and those specific ideas, all the time, and was
you'll have to come up with something other than, I am the authority on this
matter Put your sniffing out skills on this, and see what you can come up
with.
I'll wait
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Robin has, as I've already pointed out, described all
Share, Judy's MO has always been the same. When someone upends her supposed
authority about something, as you have done many times, she simply resorts to
personal attacks.
It is called fallacy ad hominem.
When it comes to fallacies, it looks like she's got the market cornered.
---In
Well, you can check with Ann, but from what he's said, after his enlightenment
he was very busy doing stuff and wasn't immersed in that language or those
ideas. He was living them and didn't sit around pondering what was going on. It
wasn't until he got involved with Catholicism years later
Actually, Ann, I don't recall anyone having tried to use it to claim Robin was
serious recently except Richard, who's just trolling. Before that, the last
folks to do it, way back when but months after the posts themselves, were
Curtis and Vaj (and Curtis surely knew otherwise; he thought he
Stevie, you have become a shameless liar in addition to a stupid and obnoxious
twerp.
Share, Judy's MO has always been the same. When someone upends her supposed
authority about something, as you have done many times, she simply resorts to
personal attacks.
It is called fallacy ad
What Judy doesn't realize is that I have access to the classic format when I
want, with the classic search function. I mentioned once already how this
works with me, but evidently she missed it.
On the other hand, this supposed collaboration between Barry and me is a new
twist for her
Om, I am telling you based on all the hard science that we should all be
partnering with the UN peace-keeping forces bringing meditation mediation
around these world conflicts. As like Greenpeace does with its ships we should
be mobilizing a flotilla of peace-keeping meditators to steam around
Go for it Buck! You would organize. Some kayak, some place. Nature would help
but you must take the first step.OM
On Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:38 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
Om, I
am telling you based on all the hard science that we should all be
Bhairitu,
That's the reason Galileo was put on house arrest for the rest of his life
when he saw that the Earth revolved around the Sun. For the same reason,
Giordano Bruno got burned to the stake for speculating that there could be
other humans outside of Earth. He might have also
Willy sez:
The separative divide between Eastern and Western orthodox religions is
that the Western orthodox religion teaches that a man became God in the person
of Jesus Christ. Eastern orthodox religions do not teach this and even denies
it.
This is clearly a misinformed statement.
Judy,
For me anything that's not scientifically proved is speculation. However,
being well-documented doesn't mean that it's scientifically proved.
I'm sorry, you're talking about life existing on earth before human beings??
E.g., bacteria, plants, animals, etc.? That isn't a matter of solid fact, as
far as you're concerned?
Are you a creationist? Even the Bible describes life existing before Adam and
Eve.
Judy,
For me
Oh, didn't know that. Bully for you. Because I knew you weren't capable of
using the Neo search to find it.
Barry would be happy to help you (or anybody else) out if it meant you could
diss Robin or me or Ann, so it was a logical assumption.
What Judy doesn't realize is that I have
As Spock would say, it's perfectly logical. ;-)
On 02/09/2014 11:50 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Bhairitu,
That's the reason Galileo was put on house arrest for the rest of his
life when he saw that the Earth revolved around the Sun. For the same
reason, Giordano Bruno got burned to the
Not to mention as I have discussed with some of my scientist friends
that life may not necessarily NEED to carbon based either. We may have
all kinds of company on this planet that we can't see. AND is person we
see actually real (as in terms of being a human like us)?
On 02/09/2014 11:06
You're in high form today Judy. Well I suppose you've got something to hang
your hat on, even it's being a disagreeable person most of the time.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Oh, didn't know that. Bully for you. Because I knew you weren't capable of
using
Why would any of us still care what you think about Barry?
Having paraded it around to everyone, along with Judy, you must consider you
personal opinion a prototype for all humanity.
Any two consecutive posts by Judy, following a single statement by Barry, is
enough for any interlocutor to
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