Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
It *is* a viable question, n'est-ce pas? Especially for someone who seems to never tire of telling people how enlightened he is, and so perfectly in tune with the Laws Of Nature, and so much more highly evolved than anyone else here. My bet is that his wife tossed him out some months now,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
That *does* seem to be the case, eh? It's like Judy has lost 20 or more IQ points by associating with the only two followers she's got left, Jim and Ann. Understandable. Neither of them seems smart enough to take a whizz without someone like Judy telling them where to piss and who to piss on.

[FairfieldLife] Here's another photo- and camera-related post for you, Nabby

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
I know you love photography, and probably old cameras as well, so here's a place for you to have coffee next time you're in Korea: http://www.messynessychic.com/2014/03/24/giant-camera-cafe-south-korea/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
It appears some cognitive dissonance is setting in with Jude and Willytex. Not sure how many times I have to say it; my mantra is in many a book on mantra's and translates as an invocation to the goddess Lakshmi, say it 1000 times and she'll come to my aid. Apparently. That's the idea anyway.

[FairfieldLife] MLTwG

2014-03-25 Thread cardemaister
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools   It appears some cognitive dissonance is setting in with Jude and Willytex. Not sure

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
When one is on TTC does one get taught the mantra meanings or taught that they are meaningless sounds? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:35 AM Subject:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools   When one is on TTC does one get taught the mantra meanings or taught that they are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
I'll try to respond to this, because you seem so earnest and all :-), but please understand going into it that I am at something of a disadvantage when discussing enlightenment in that I don't believe that there is any such state with a finite end. I seriously DO NOT believe in Maharishi's 7

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread LEnglish5
The significance of a pujah is whatever the hell the person doing the pujah says it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4b3hfoUUNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4b3hfoUUNQ

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Correction

2014-03-25 Thread LEnglish5
Well, at least in Latin America, Quiet Time students often get to learn the TM-Sidhis [apparently] for free, so its not too far off to say that teaching low-income students TM is a gateway drug for the TM-Sidhis. Since they are already in meditating in groups, such QT TM-Sidhas are already in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools   The significance of a  pujah is whatever the hell the person doing the pujah says it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread LEnglish5
I'll say again, and make it more explicit (obviously you didn't bother watching teh video): it doesn't matter what the words say. All that matters is the reason given for performing the stupid thing. Maharishi gave a reason. TM teachers agreed to accept that reason. End of story.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread LEnglish5
Maharishi acknowledged that his Seven states of consciousenss was merely a convenient fiction. On the there hand, there are plenty of Buddhists out there who believe in teh jhanas as literal things that must be seen as exact steps with specific techniques to attain each one, in order, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools   I'll say again, and make it more explicit (obviously you didn't bother watching teh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
Thanks for posting that Barry - sums it up very well. On Tue, 3/25/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
When I talked on the phone to Mark Landau (Marshy's personal secretary for five years) he was emphatic that during the TTC's he helped to run, the teachers were absolutely NOT told the meaning of the mantras, he felt Marshy deliberately withheld the info to keep the teachers in the dark. For

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
Given Marshy's continual emphasis on the purity of the teaching what you are saying here is bull manure. On Tue, 3/25/14, lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public

Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Sorry, Richard, it took me a while to figure out the map. All those white specks are Utopia Park, the trailer park built for the Taste of Utopia course. Anyone can live in them is my understanding. Oh look, the swimming pool, the aqua speck! I LOVE maps, must have been a hobbit in previous

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Steve, acknowledging your investigative skills, I just realized how appropriate that Judy calls you Feebs, a nickname for the FBI. Go figure! On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:11 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:   Hey Judy, at this point, I think we have to give first

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: In Sanskrit the word for health is 'Swasthya'.

2014-03-25 Thread Dick Mays
In Sanskrit the word for health is 'Swasthya'. 'Swa' means the Self, and 'Sthya' means established. So health is defined as being established in the Self. The Self is holistic in nature. Being established in the Self means being established unshakably in the wholeness of life. Health,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

2014-03-25 Thread steve.sundur
Oh, okay. I missed that guess. I guess they are saying that now, the flight path, and altitude changes indicate that the pilots were trying to get to safety. But as you say, where was the Mayday call, which would have only taken a moment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread emptybill
Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the meaning of mantras. Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
As Mark Landau told me, TM is actually a Hindu devotional practice, so I guess it qualifies as japa. Marshy himself is quoted in the old Hermit inthe House book as saying the mantras are the names of gods. He also equates TM with prayer in the book Meditations of Maharish Mahesh Yogi and given

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
If the communications equipment was working. Plus which, the pilot's mantra is aviate, navigate, communicate--in that order. In a really desperate situation, the first two may take all the pilots' attention. Oh, okay. I missed that guess. I guess they are saying that now, the flight

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Are you sure Mark is correct, Michael? Because TM is definitely not japa. I would give far more credence to emptybill (who is by no means a TM TB blissninny) than I would to Mark when it comes to technical knowledge about meditation and mantras. What exactly is Maharishi quoted as saying in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It *is* a viable question, n'est-ce pas? Especially for someone who seems to never tire of telling people how enlightened he is, and so perfectly in tune with the Laws Of Nature, and so much more highly evolved than anyone else

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
its a Hindu devotional practice designed to pull the favor of particular goddesses to the practitioner - call it what you like - the TMO does, so you can call it anything that it is not, as is the TMO's tradition. On Tue, 3/25/14, authfri...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
Barry. This isn't about me. This is about you. You constantly dodge and weave, to hide yourself from me. You see my declaration of my enlightenment as a severe test of your world view. Here's another: When you stop hiding from me, I will engage with you. Until then I have NO INTEREST in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
Ha, please don't play the fool, simply to win the popularity contest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I'm sorry Bat lost it's following. Sounds like you were pretty invested in it. But as has been pointed out, it was mostly two people patting each other on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Which MRI studies are you not interested in, Barry? Xeno didn't mention any and explicitly said they aren't used by the TMO. In the TMO, fMRI is not used, but it might throw some light on what is happening in the brain when a person is experiencing inner silence. In this 'development of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
I have no interest in engaging with you, Jim, for any reason whatsoever. You're a mental midget with psychological problems so severe that you feel the need to pretend that you're enlightened. What could there possibly be to talk about? The only person here dodging and weaving and hiding is

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the meaning of mantras. Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
Are you sure your wife didn't kick you out of the house, for disagreeing with her? lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Hey Judy, at this point, I think we have to give first place to Jim. After all, he did say that satellite data would be instrumental in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
Yes, speak no enlightenment, you are doing a great job. Here's a virtual banana. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Jimmy, take step back from your enlightened persona a bit. You're acting like a baby that just got it's toy taken away. Is there anything we can do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread nablusoss1008
What did you expect, fellows like the Turq to be able to stick to a Path ? With his endless patience and grace Maharishi invited anybody to a path eventually leading to Freedom. Needless to say this forum is crowded with anybodies lacking in the basic requirements for progress on any Path;

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC   You're wasting your time in pointing out the innumerable shortcomings of the baby-Turq-fellow.  For

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Thus Ann proclaimeth from on high. Which is the third grade, I guess: ...It certainly is a refreshing change from the schoolyard drivel and second grade insults being hurled back and forth on this site lately. On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:46 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Er, Salyavin, we all know the bija mantras can be found in books, and that Hindus associate them with particular deities and use them to invoke those deities. That's not exactly news. But translates is an obvious misnomer in this context. Bija mantras can't be translated because they have no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
Thanks Ann - I have been patiently, and repeatedly, responding to Barry, reminding him that this discussion has nothing to do with me. He continues to try and deviate from it, distract from it, insult me, insult others, and basically do ANYTHING HE CAN, to keep people from thinking about his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Hey, Feste, as a minor point, note that both Lawson and Barry use the period-following-each-word-for-emphasis convention in this exchange. I'll say again, and make it more explicit (obviously you didn't bother watching teh video): it doesn't matter what the words say. All that matters is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Looks like I've really nailed Barry solidly to the wall. There he hangs, wriggling, sputtering, spewing saliva, wetting his pants in impotent, incoherent rage, utterly unable to say anything that makes any sense, dependent on the Feeb, of all people, for inspiration, hoping desperately for a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Oh, sorry, you misunderstood again, Feebs. I couldn't care less whether you listen to what I have to say, about you or anything else. Criticism coming from anyone else Judy, I might be inclined to listen. But youno can do. Sorry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity? Hmmm, seems like that's the sort of thing meditation was designed for. Is it too late for a refund? I don't know why you people get so upset at a few inconvenient facts. I'm an athiest and I loved the puja, all that bowing and singing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
you don't get it at all - Marshy was a devout and fanatic Hindu and he felt perfectly comfortable lying to achieve his ends - he was unwilling to even tell his teachers the truth about the mantras in the beginning even tho they felt oh so special to be in his presence not understanding they

[FairfieldLife] Wisdom, will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Great writing, Empty. This is simply clarifying and let these ignorant argument professing former TM'ers put your distillation here into their pipes and smoke it. TM quite evidently is mantra meditation and not japa as taught. As a transcending meditation TM seems to work good that way. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
it is a very nicely written post unfortunately incorrect - M lied about the mantras and their use along with a million other things. That's reality. On Tue, 3/25/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:

[FairfieldLife] Benjamin Creme on Karma

2014-03-25 Thread nablusoss1008
A must read for anyone who believes he knows a thing or two about karma, past lives and right relationships. http://share-international.org/archives/AgelessWisdom/aw_bcreincarn.htm http://share-international.org/archives/AgelessWisdom/aw_bcreincarn.htm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
I always enjoy your posts, Nabby. Yes, I am well aware of the discipline, integration and will, needed, to traverse a spiritual path; the journey as Maharishi put it, from here to here. I thought it was worth mentioning, in a variety, of ways, to Barry, that, to quote Maharishi, The world is as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What did you expect, fellows like the Turq to be able to stick to a Path ? With his endless patience and grace Maharishi invited anybody to a path eventually leading to Freedom. Needless to say this forum is crowded

Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry's Chopra quote scam

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Ok, Steve and Judy, you two are way over my head in these posts. Anyway, Happy Halloween, I guess! On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:20 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:   You know, that was somewhat funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
Two things: Are you joking about Nader saying the Ramayana battles are being fought in our bodies??? OR is that what he really says? The reason for the mantra debate is some just can't accept they were hoodwinked by marshy no matter how good the practice felt - for me self, its another

Re: [FairfieldLife] Wisdom, will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
marshy was laughing up his dhoti sleeves for decades that he was getting all other religions to practice his subtly and making a fortune doing it. On Tue, 3/25/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread steve.sundur
Did I? Actually I think this is an example of LWJ, or Last Word Judy. Sort of your signature for 20 years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Oh, sorry, you misunderstood again, Feebs. I couldn't care less whether you listen to what I have to say, about you or

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Of course there are no such things as Hindu gods. They are metaphors for laws of physics. As I have mentioned many times on FFL, this was so beautifully put at a talk given at a performance at a Katakali dance theater in Cochin. I like to call mantras resonance patterns because they

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Devotional practices such as bhakti are also just tools. The ancient yogis needed a way to explain the laws of nature and the universe (physics) to simple folks. So they used metaphors. I was going to mention this in the thread about quiet time because the mantras really aren't names of

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
emptybill, thank you for being so generous with your knowledge and time. It's a good day when I learn something new. Lots of knowledge here that's new for me so a really good day! On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:02 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:   Recently I have read

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread steve.sundur
Speaking of doing a great job, you seem to be verifying everything your most ardent critic has leveled at you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yes, speak no enlightenment, you are doing a great job. Here's a virtual banana. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
So did you get a buzz from the puja? You should and that's probably why you liked it. The buzz would be the increase of shakti which is something not well understood by western science. Another thing we need to remember is that just the word Hindu was a form of ignorance created by invaders

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

2014-03-25 Thread steve.sundur
You are so funny Jim. At least in a weird kind of way. No, pretty much business as usual here. Just a waking state husband and wife, and 20 year old whose coming off the rails to some extent. But marriage wise, it's all good. How about you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Thanks for this noozguru. Actually I've been feeling the kapha a lot the last week or so, sort of heavy and lethargic. I'll try this and also avoiding any heavy foods. I guess the almond butter will have to wait til December! On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53 AM, Bhairitu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's Chopra quote scam

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
Yep, I really enjoyed the Chopra quote. Barry was just looking for another handful of shit, to fling through the bars. Has anyone actually told him that he is the one in the cage?? :-) I get so tired of assholes making thier numerous issues, other people's problems (sigh). ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Ok, Mike I can see how someone, especially a parent, could be concerned for their child's welfare. But I think peer pressure is a sine qua non of the teen years. So the mom might be fighting many a battle in that regard. It also brings up for me another issue. Your right to swing your arm ends

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread geezerfreak
Checked in to see what was going on at FFL today and low and behold, it's the mantra meaning debate! I've posted this before some years back but for me it was settled once and for all back in 1976 when I received my 4th advanced technique. I was waiting in line to see MMY when the guy in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Two things: Are you joking about Nader saying the Ramayana battles are being fought in our bodies??? OR is that what he really says? That's what he said at a recent lecture in London, it's from his new book Ramayana in human

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Yep, Judy and you're still sinking! In this case by leaving off the accompanying part where you suggested that his family is as rotten as turq; and later when you said you were shocked but gratified to conclude that they are! Based on one utterance of his! People with whom you have had no

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Of course there are no such things as Hindu gods. They are metaphors for laws of physics. Can you expand on this a bit? Maybe say which one is doing what, like is Ganesh representing the second law of thermodynamics or gravity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wisdom, will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Thanks all, this is delineating. TM as taught evidently is a mantra meditation practice as better defined by scholarship than some ignorant claiming like MJ's. Learning to say or think the Sanskrit sounds as such is very much part of Maharishi's teaching. RJW writes: So, we are agreed. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Not what I said, Share. If you have to misquote to make your point, you know there's something wrong with it. BTW, has Barry's family had a lot of direct and negative experience with me? (Share won't answer this question. And of course she isn't going to chastise Barry or the Feeb for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
Isn't it fascinating how the same old arguments come up, followed by the same old justifications and apologetics, over and over and over and over and over and over? And the people running the cult apologetics number seem to be completely unaware that they have *patterns* that define their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
you are as full of shit as a Christmas goose to say that Hinduism is a philosophy - there are about a billion Hindus who disagree with you. On Tue, 3/25/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
Well said, thank you and end of debate. On Tue, 3/25/14, geezerfr...@yahoo.com geezerfr...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 25,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wisdom, will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Michael Jackson
part of his lies, you mean - geezerfreak settled the debate. On Tue, 3/25/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wisdom, will cure willfully arrogant stupidity To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Actually, nobody freaked out over the pandit riot (singular, not plural, BTW) except the TM critics. Barry in particular completely lost his cool and is still fulminating hysterically while the rest of us have moved on to other topics. What we're seeing here is Barry's pattern. Old Predictable,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
I didn't get a buzz from the puja, I enjoyed the chanting and the exotic unexpectedness of it though and getting the mantra at the end was clever, it worked straight away too. I was hooked from day one - regardless of the etymology of the terms ;-) I think you'll have a job getting the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yep, they may have meaning to some but in this practice don't use that and they are not used that way. Evidently from the Master, “don't dwell on it” as in don't use it that way. Therefore TM is not religious. Yes, end of argument, -Buck mjackson74 writes, Well said, thank you and end of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well said, thank you and end of debate. You must be new here On Tue, 3/25/14, geezerfreak@... mailto:geezerfreak@... geezerfreak@... mailto:geezerfreak@... wrote: Subject:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
Gotta agree with Salyavin here -- no buzz whatsoever. I instructed hundreds of people, and thus did hundreds of pujas, and never felt a damned thing. I'm convinced that the buzz thing is mood-making and the placebo effect. From: salyavin808

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Ok, salyavin, that got me laughing out loud, thanks... On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:19 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well said, thank you and end of debate. You must be new here

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
What Maharishi told you, Geeze, was the association between the bija mantra and Saraswati. The bija itself is still a semantically meaningless sound (unlike the Sanskrit words that comprise the advanced techniques, which do have semantic meanings). FWIW, I've been on residence courses in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well said, thank you and end

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread TurquoiseBee
Point #4: * Nitpick them into arguing with you. Any nitpick will do, but the best is some kind of semantic nitpick about one or two words in something they posted that doesn't really have anything to do with the criticism you're trying to D-E-F-L-E-C-T. If you can get them -- or other posters

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Judy, I think you are very good at innuendo, implication, obfuscation and indirect accusation. Here is what you wrote: For all we know, his family approves of and encourages his despicable behavior on FFL...Maybe Barry wouldn't live with them if they weren't as rotten as he is. I hadn't thought

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Can't do much about those who wish to remain ignorant. On 03/25/2014 09:54 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: you are as full of shit as a Christmas goose to say that Hinduism is a philosophy - there are about a billion Hindus who disagree with you. On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Michael, it isn't that I don't get it, it's that I see it differently. Very much as Bhairitu sez (and neither of us got this from what we were taught in the TM context), I understand exoteric religions, Hinduism in particular, to be metaphorical expressions of the esoteric metaphysics of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Convincing the fundies is a useless cause. I'm not going waste my time on them. And a trip to India would open a lot of eyes since they are otherwise experiencing an elephant like a blind man. BTW, what does the blue elephant symbolize? ;-) On 03/25/2014 10:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/25/2014 2:55 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: It appears some cognitive dissonance is setting in with Jude and Willytex. Not sure how many times I have to say it; my mantra is in many a book on mantra's and translates as an invocation to the goddess Lakshmi, say it 1000 times and she'll come to my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
True Believers tend to believe in Absolutist terms (either l00% true or 100% false) and they can't tolerate situations in which: a. the truth is unknown b. the truth is midway between extremes c. simply unknowable d. variants such as true some of the time, but at other times not true, or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Too bad you didn't get a buzz. I did many a time and it was not mood making. Of course I got a buzz as a 4 year contemplating infinity when I asked my mom how big was the universe. ;-) On 03/25/2014 10:20 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Gotta agree with Salyavin here -- no buzz whatsoever. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/25/2014 2:55 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Speaking as what neither of them is or ever was -- a TM teacher I've been teaching people how to meditate for over forty years - I can teach anything I want to, as long as I don't call it TM. As for Barry's teacher training, all I can say is Big

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/25/2014 2:35 AM, salyavin808 wrote: It appears some cognitive dissonance is setting in with Jude and Willytex. Not sure how many times I have to say it; my mantra is in many a book on mantra's and translates as an invocation to the goddess Lakshmi, say it 1000 times and she'll come to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
Thank you for posting what I actually said. Try not to distort it next time, OK? What I wrote was quite clear and direct before you tried to turn it into innuendo, implication, obfuscation, and indirect accusation. And I note that, as predicted, you avoided answering my question. That's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread salyavin808
I like the story of the buzz at 4. My earliest recollection of getting a sense of wonder was when my Mum bought me a Dinosaur book. On the bottom of every page was part of a scale starting with the primordial soup at the world's beginning, and on every page millions of years would pass, page

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

2014-03-25 Thread authfriend
That's not true, Richard. No TM bija mantra are presented using a book of mantras, or any reference to a Hindu deity

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread emptybill
Dear TurquoiseZee You seem so knowledgeable about nits. Lots of experience ... huh? Must be all them European beds.

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Bhairitu
Spring is kapha time according to ayurveda so it may become high. You can counter balance some of that heaviness with a pinch of ginger, cinnamon and a dash of cloves. I take a pinch of that after a meal and it does away with the craving for a desert. The prevailing paradigm for ayurveda

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Judy, it sounded like turq had shown them what you had written. Whereas you're going by one utterance of his, whom you often call a liar! Almost none of us here have direct experience of the rest of us. IMO that's a good reason to reserve judgement or at least err on the positive side.

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
BTW noozguru, I somehow stumbled on that metabolic typing test the other day. Overwhelmingly fast metabolism, what they called a protein type. I'm using sprouts as a light protein in this kapha time... On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:32 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:   Spring is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
hmmm, more calcified thoughts - well, you keep at it, and after I return from my ten day trip to the mountains, in the RV, with my wife, maybe your cranium will have emerged from your butt. We can only hope, Barry. In the meantime, you have *plenty* to get riled up about, without me, wearing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

2014-03-25 Thread doctordumbass
LOL - He needs targets like a fish needs water, and when he becomes one, it is quite spectacle. Not quite sure why he puts his irrational and self-abusive personality on display. I guess that is all he has available.

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