Re: Texlive schemes?

2009-12-23 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 05:03:21PM +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 15:09 +0100 schrieb Jindrich Novy: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi all, after texlive 2009 crashed my latex compiling process one day before I wanted to

New covenant published (was: Re: moonlight and the new covenant)

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Hudson
On 19/12/09 11:03, Alex Hudson wrote: The covenant is published as far as I can see here: No, that's the previous one which was not good enough. The new one is not yet published. Correction: it's now published here - http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/newmoonlight.mspx

License change: sextractor

2009-12-23 Thread Sergio Pascual
Hi all: the new version of sextractor in rawhide (2.8.6) will have a CeCILL license. Previously, sextractor was distributed under GPLv2 Regards -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about scratch builds? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:50:11PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about scratch builds? What about them? Scratch

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/23/2009 09:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:50:11PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:20, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about scratch builds?

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:38, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 12/23/2009 09:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:50:11PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are

Power Management caused 2 second instant poweroff on Desktop

2009-12-23 Thread Paul Wouters
Hey, I just had the weirdest thing ever, on Fedora 12 I was working on my desktop, running F-12, KVM and like 10 VM's up and running. I had clicked on the update button, but since I was using a voip (hardware) phone had not yet clicked on download updates. I iconified the window to get rid of

Re: Create a -cli package without a different executable

2009-12-23 Thread Nicoleau Fabien
Le Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:08:45 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com a écrit : On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:39:18PM +0100, Julian Aloofi wrote: Am Freitag, den 18.12.2009, 18:12 +0100 schrieb Nicoleau Fabien: Hi, I'm packaging phatch that provides /usr/bin/phatch, a graphical

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jarod Wilson wrote: On 12/22/09 2:45 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: And as I wrote before, I don't like this at all, it's a regression from our current workflow Define our. Our current workflow = what Fedora's current CVS setup allows. In my personal opinion, Jesse is spot-on, we should NOT

Re: New covenant published (was: Re: moonlight and the new covenant)

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alex Hudson wrote: Correction: it's now published here - http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/newmoonlight.mspx To my untrained eye, it seems to cover Moonlight fully, the termination clause doesn't work retroactively, it includes coverage for the Mono portions and it

Re: Vala programs and compiling from source

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Robinson wrote: Some what different in that vala is source code that generates plainly readable C code. A .dll is a binary library. Its not exactly the same arguement. So if I encode a Mono DLL as: unsigned char dll_data[]={...}; and generate the .dll from that, is that source code???

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 01:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: As the patent license is non-Free, Moonlight still has to be considered non- Free wherever software patents apply. So as far as I can tell, this is not acceptable for Fedora, sorry. (But of course spot and/or RH Legal will have the final word.)

Re: All I want for Christmas is digiKam 1.0 in F12-stable...

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jeffrey Ollie wrote: That's to be expected, as rpm -i installs a package without removing the old one. Unless the package is specially designed (like the kernel) you'll get conflicts. Normally, you'd want to use rpm -U which will remove the old package before installing the new one.

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: On 23/12/09 18:46, Tom spot Callaway wrote: With that said, this new covenant does NOT change our stance on Moonlight. It is still not permissible in Fedora. Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is there some other

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Hudson
On 23/12/09 18:58, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is there some other problem? It's difficult to fix things if we don't know what's broken. The most obvious issue is that it does

Re: Vala programs and compiling from source

2009-12-23 Thread Krzesimir Nowak
2009/12/23 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: IMHO generated code does not belong into source tarballs at all. gtkmm tarballs distribute generated C++ source code to avoid using maintainer tools like mm-common or gmmproc by distro packagers. and that is for a long long time. Are we going to

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 02:10 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: On 23/12/09 18:58, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is there some other problem? It's difficult to fix things if we don't know what's broken.

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/24/2009 12:52 AM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: It grants no patent rights to Distributors, aside from those already granted to Novell in the previous covenant. What it practically means is that once you distribute, you stop being considered an End User by Microsoft, and are no longer

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Tom spot Callaway wrote: (Yes, the irony of a talk on software patents being offered in MP3 format is not lost on me.) Just think... one more year... one more year... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 19:28 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: The whole problem is that such branches do not exist at all in the new git setup! If you get eaten by raptors, you can't expect another maintainer to come in after you and have to dig around for a private branch to update a build.

Re: Kernel security update required or not?

2009-12-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:56:26 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel clydekunkel7...@cox.net wrote: does adding nomodeset to kernel parm line in grub.conf work? It gets me back to the other problem. So yeah it does seem like we are seeing the same thing. I update the bug to mention this. --

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com said: Tom spot Callaway wrote: (Yes, the irony of a talk on software patents being offered in MP3 format is not lost on me.) Just think... one more year... one more year... It doesn't look like that is the case:

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jarod Wilson
On 12/23/09 3:21 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 19:28 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: The whole problem is that such branches do not exist at all in the new git setup! If you get eaten by raptors, you can't expect another maintainer to come in after you and have to dig around

Re: Kernel security update required or not?

2009-12-23 Thread Christopher Brown
2009/12/21 Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com: On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 22:21 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I didn't see any of the recent previous spec file comments indicate back ported security fixes. So its unlikely the latest security fixes are in any earlier version. If you want them now,

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Sir Gallantmon
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Alan Milnes a...@linux.com wrote: 2009/12/23 Alex Hudson fed...@alexhudson.com: I realise a number of people don't care for Mono-related technologies, but it would be sad to see Fedora left out in the cold for this stuff. Actually it makes me very *happy*

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 15:46 -0500, Jarod Wilson wrote: Okay, we've definitely got some slight misunderstanding here... :) I was objecting to Kevin's suggestion that we should be able to build official packages from branches named ^private-*. But building from a branch tagged something

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Roland McGrath
I understand the use case, I'm still not super keen on having official built packages come out of a branch. Makes discovery somewhat difficult, and leads to problems if we have to bump+build something and don't realize that the real live code is actually on a branch. Surely all previous

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 14:23 -0800, Roland McGrath wrote: I understand the use case, I'm still not super keen on having official built packages come out of a branch. Makes discovery somewhat difficult, and leads to problems if we have to bump+build something and don't realize that the real

major ghc breakage: anybody working on fixing them? (was Re: rawhide report: 20091223 changes)

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Lancaster
Rawhide Report writes: So these huge slew of broken deps (seems like more than 10 packages) for ghc have been in the rawhide reports for over a week now, is anybody actively maintaining and/or planning to fix these packages? If not, please let us know so a provenpackager can fix these, they

Re: major ghc breakage: anybody working on fixing them?

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Lancaster
to: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20091223/logs/repodiff abiword was successfully rebuilt: abiword-2.8.1-3.fc13 * Mon Dec 21 2009 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com - 1:2.8.1-3 - Rebuild against new libwv but the depcheck shows it still broken: http

Re: (huge) Ruby packaging changes

2009-12-23 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
On 12/22/2009 06:36 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Tuesday 22 December 2009, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: - Use the alternatives system to point to one stack or the other for the system default stack (think standalone applications). Not that I'm anywhere near an expert in ruby matters, but I have

Re: (huge) Ruby packaging changes

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/24/2009 05:49 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Care to explain the term environment-modules for me please? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/EnvironmentModules Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: package inclusion

2009-12-23 Thread Marcela Maslanova
- Glen g...@empireenterprises.com wrote: I want to get a perl module included in the default redhat distro. How do I go about this? -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: package inclusion

2009-12-23 Thread Glen
MooseX::Declare. It's easy enough to install via cpan, though I think getting it into an official rpm would prove a boon to the perl5 community. On Dec 23, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Marcela Maslanova wrote: - Glen g...@empireenterprises.com wrote: I want to get a perl module included in

File MailTools-2.05.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2009-12-23 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MailTools: 86a51c5a81a55e555c7a84dfdf6ab270 MailTools-2.05.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-MailTools/devel .cvsignore, 1.14, 1.15 perl-MailTools.spec, 1.32, 1.33 sources, 1.14, 1.15

2009-12-23 Thread Paul Howarth
Author: pghmcfc Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-MailTools/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv14613 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-MailTools.spec sources Log Message: Update to 2.05 Index: .cvsignore

Re: package inclusion

2009-12-23 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello, Glen wrote: I want to get a perl module included in the default redhat distro. It's easy enough to install via cpan, though I think getting it into an official rpm would prove a boon to the perl5 community. using the term redhat distro may be confusing. If you are speaking

File Text-FindIndent-0.06.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by mmaslano

2009-12-23 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Text-FindIndent: cafaae89fdf3dfeecf7c1ba9ab434c7a Text-FindIndent-0.06.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

File Wx-Perl-ProcessStream-0.22.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by mmaslano

2009-12-23 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream: 671f75dd6e30e278eac0a8d8f82bf4d9 Wx-Perl-ProcessStream-0.22.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream/devel .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream.spec, 1.4, 1.5 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-12-23 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Author: mmaslano Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv11292 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream.spec sources Log Message: * Wed Dec 23 2009 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.22-1 - update

rpms/perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream/devel perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream.spec, 1.5, 1.6

2009-12-23 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Author: mmaslano Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv12513 Modified Files: perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream.spec Log Message: missing BR. Index: perl-Wx-Perl-ProcessStream.spec