Re: aiglx

2006-03-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Vitor Domingos wrote: Is AIGLX going to appear on FC5? I've test it with ATI RADEON 7000, with all the hacks that's on the wiki page, and it's too dam slow Some of the pieces are already integrated. See the section on technical details for the current status.

Re: aiglx

2006-03-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Vitor Domingos wrote: Is AIGLX going to appear on FC5? I've test it with ATI RADEON 7000, with all the hacks that's on the wiki page, and it's too dam slow Some of the pieces are already integrated. See the section on technical

Re: aiglx

2006-03-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Benjy Grogan wrote: Isn't Red Hat forking the accelerated GL community by working on AIGLX instead of Xgl? It seems like Xgl is to AIGLX as SELinux is to AppArmor. The analogy here seems to be off the mark since AIGLX and SELinux has been developed in the open right from the start unlike

Re: Hotplug: no more fstab entries

2006-03-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bill Nottingham wrote: This is all documented in the release notes, right? If you think it's necessary.. feel free to add it. I really think we could use one. Bill Available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/OverView. Will be in the overview section in the FC5

Wild cry for package documentation

2006-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, I send out a note to https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2006-March/msg00120.html to document packages in Fedora Extras is a better way when the installation or configuration procedures are non obvious and we are seeing changes such as the Games Special Interest Group

Re: Evince claims pdf password protected

2006-03-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hans Kristian Rosbach wrote: Opening http://www.highpoint-tech.com/manuals/BIOS%20Update%20User%20Manual.pdf in Document Viewer (Evince) fails and it clams it is password protected. If I open it using Xpdf it works just fine. File can be found at

Re: FC5 Final Release

2006-03-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Sadda Teh wrote: Is FC5 still on schedule to be release March 15th? Thanks. Yes it is. -- Rahul

Re: FC5 Final Release

2006-03-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hans Kristian Rosbach wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 12:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Sadda Teh wrote: Is FC5 still on schedule to be release March 15th? Thanks. Yes it is. Just a general question.. Will anaconda not display estimated disk usage when customizing

Re: FC5 Final Release

2006-03-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: I also have heard nothing from the Xorg bugzilla regarding making the nv driver work: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182396 The information requested from you needs to be supplied on this report. It was supplied... in the freedesktop bugzilla.

Re: rawhide report: 20060308 changes

2006-03-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ralf Ertzinger wrote: Hi. On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 03:26:05 -0500, Build System wrote: - use an assigned uid/gid, do not loop over user ids looking for a free one I have often wondered why useradd does not have built in support for stuff like this. From time to time I'd like to do

Re: rawhide report: 20060308 changes

2006-03-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
David Nielsen wrote: rhythmbox-0.9.3.1-3 --- * Wed Mar 08 2006 Ray Strode rstr...@redhat.com - 0.9.3.1-3 - fix icon on notification bubbles (bug 183720) - patch from CVS to escape bubble markup, found by Bill Nottingham Well there goes the wasted effort of filing:

Re: dropdown menu's

2006-03-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Erwin Rol wrote: Hey all, This is something that already bothers me a while, i think it never really worked as expected, but i am not sure if it is a my machine only kind of problem. Dropdown menu's that don't fit on the screen are not displayed correctly. For example take the gimp file-open

Re: Qt 4 RPM and pkg-config problem

2006-03-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Paul F. Johnson wrote: Hi, Oh, Paul F.J., did you get around to add this RPM to Extras? (can't find the bugzilla entry in case you did) Is it worth putting Qt4 into extras as it's sooner or later going to be in core? I have no problem submitting it, just don't want to duplicate

Re: New /etc/services for testing available

2006-03-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bill Crawford wrote: I'd really suggest instead making a poll of what people would find useful. There are going to be a lot of things in there that will probably never be useful, e.g. 2545 sis-emt is one I registered, and I'm pretty sure is now unused, or certainly of only very limited

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Thomas J. Baker wrote: I filed this back on Feb 23rd https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182653 Thanks. Somehow missed it in my queries. Is this still reproducible for you? -- Rahul

Re: Re-view FC5 hardware requirements for GNOME

2006-03-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kevin Verma wrote: Hello, Quoting on the subject, I had gone through a review article for Gnome 2.14 and I began wondering if FC5 release notes should mention a reviewed hardware requirement for GNOME 2.14 based desktop installations, as per the facts delivered in this review article (

FC5 and early-login

2006-03-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Radek Vok?l wrote: Where did early login go? I don't see gdm-early-login in initscripts .. Stalled for a while. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=151952 -- Rahul

Re: Anaconda: good work!

2006-03-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Dimi Paun wrote: * Release Notes too big? I found them to be too big/verbose, especially for a light read during install. But maybe it's just me. Pretty much all of the information supplied in the release notes are just things that users have asked for in the previous releases. We

Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 09:50 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC in the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net. FPC works from the agenda at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GuidelinesTodo; there's just one item currently on

Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 01:40 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:35:23AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/26/2009 09:50 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC in the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net. FPC

Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 03:38 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: Smart in GUI-mode and Synaptic currently use the Group tag to, well, group the packages for viewing: http://laiskiainen.org/tmp/smartpm-groups.png. That's great. Apt (and smartpm in cli-mode) dont care. Without spec specified Group they all

Re: export policy, was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 07:39 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: This is technically a violation of GPL, and could mean that anyone distributing Fedora with those restrictions has lost their rights to use and/or distribute the GPL software contained within Fedora.here they take place. FSF doesn't seem to think

Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find anything interesting, feel free to pick it up. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009 Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 06:08 PM, Nikolay Vladimirov wrote: I looked at Unknown Horizons and it has Creative Commons Sampling Plus 1.0 license[1] on some[2] of the sounds. I noted this in the table also added the game to the forbidden games list until upstream can replace these sounds. [1]

Re: Fedora and the moblin2 fork

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 07:13 PM, Adam Miller wrote: If you package and maintain all of those and wrote the kickstart for the spin, is there really anything else for the rest of us to do? These packages are just hacks put up together to get a live cd up and running quickly. Interested people should

Re: The future of firestarter

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 07:51 PM, Adam Miller wrote: I recently picked up the firestarter package because it was orphaned and I know a few people who still use it. There were only a couple of small bugs opened against it so I figured I would hack at them as soon as I was able. But this morning there was

Re: The future of firestarter

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2009 02:24 AM, Adam Miller wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Cry cry_regar...@yahoo.com wrote: Any chance of filing a set of RFEs against system-config-firewall for the features that firestarter has that system-config-firewall is still missing? I like that idea, I've

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 12 Development - 2009-05-22

2009-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/23/2009 12:26 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Your following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies: package: gnote-0.1.2-2.fc12.i586 from dist-f12-build-current-i386 Fixed by building a new upstream release - gnote 0.4.0 Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi My packaging survey turned up a interesting suggestion https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-May/msg01809.html We don't currently have any guidelines covering this but considering the Debian action to hot babe http://lwn.net/Articles/113644/ I wanted to asked first, is this

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2009 03:23 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Would a cc to legal be in order? As a just in case. It is blocking FE-Legal already. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503013 Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 03:00 PM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: IMHO it is not Fedora's job to define family values moralities. Such morals/values will vary all around the world I don't want fedora to define such things, we have our own values predefined. it should not make my job finding suck packages

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 05:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: ! One interesting thing - does it download free content? Are there some porn sites under CC licence? Free culture, by community for community... There is and no, I am not linking to them, here. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: rawhide report: 20090528 changes

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 09:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11 * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.4-164 - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 09:27 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: By refusing kmods, we have more motivation to actually try and include upstream what we really need to use. If we can simply install the kmod, who cares if it's upstreamed ? We generally do care about whether something is upstream or

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 07:34 PM, Mat Booth wrote: I don't think JEP should be on that list. I've used it in few commercial products and its a thousand dollars a pop for a source code licence: http://www.singularsys.com/order/ JEP in the wiki is linked to http://sourceforge.net/projects/jep/. Are

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 10:47 PM, Mat Booth wrote: As of 2008-09-29 23:14, this project may now be found at: http://www.singularsys.com/jep; Wouldn't older versions still exist under the open source license? Are they still useful? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: rawhide report: 20090528 changes

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 10:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.4-164 - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855, and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter. The last change on 167

Re: Mono ( Moonlight) Licensing? Revisited

2009-05-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2009 12:42 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/1 Not intending to burn the house down. But, going by this article: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/1 Dated 25th May. Unease sets in. It is not clear what your intend is?

Re: Mono ( Moonlight) Licensing? Revisited

2009-05-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2009 03:41 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/31/2009 12:42 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/1 Not intending to burn the house down. But, going by this article: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215

Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2009 05:24 PM, Alexey Torkhov wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 16:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Usage of trademark was granted to Russian Fedora by agreement between Red Hat and other company that represent it here, AFAIK. Max Spevack was on presentation on Russian Fedora launch. I

Re: Is The Devel Sig alive or Dead?

2009-05-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2009 05:42 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Lat meeting log seems to be: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Development#Communication It's not active anymore. The Fedora Development custom spin has also been dropped. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2009 05:48 PM, Alexey Torkhov wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 17:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/31/2009 05:24 PM, Alexey Torkhov wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 16:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Usage of trademark was granted to Russian Fedora by agreement between Red Hat

Re: welcome to fedora

2009-05-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2009 05:17 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/31/2009 01:31 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: Well, from my point of view, the OP doesn't meant to have a Welcome to Fedora text alone. I think he meant more likely the other stuff. Like

Re: Orphaning some packages (brasero, transmission and more)

2009-06-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/03/2009 12:50 PM, Denis Leroy wrote: In an effort to focus more on FOSS upstream development, I am going to be orphaning some of my Fedora packages in the near future, starting with this first batch. transmission Taken this. Co-maintainers welcome. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list

Re: Packager = Programmer?

2009-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/04/2009 01:13 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Does trying to become a packager. Involve being currently a Developer, as in Programming skills\certification, whether Perl\Python\c++ etc. Not necessarily. It's useful to understand the codebase but if you have a active upstream

Re: Question about web applications

2009-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/04/2009 03:53 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: Hi, I submitted ampache (http://ampache.org/) for review, but I was told that it could not use any external software bundled in the code. In fact, it uses getid3, a file that seems to come from horde (horde/Browser.php), and some others.

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/04/2009 05:48 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Last time I reported this problem in the bugzilla component of redhat bugzilla (I complained about all the columns in list view no one uses when last change is not even displayed) the answer was that the people in charge did not want to deviate

Re: Question about web applications

2009-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/04/2009 06:57 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: Thank you Jon. I will start with getid3. It would be nice if we had a list of packages missing available elsewhere, so people, interested in helping, could choose what to pack. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist

Re: Packager = Programmer?

2009-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/04/2009 10:18 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: I'd love to learn how autotools, setuptools, and other equivalents for other languages work. Not necessarily because I want to build a project using those, but because I sometimes have a hard time figuring out how to patch a Makefile in

Comaintainers needed - Gnote and Transmission

2009-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, Gnote is a port of Tomboy to C++ and will be default in GNOME for Fedora 12 Transmission is a GTK app and the default torrent client for Fedora in GNOME and Xfce (Live CD) Both are active and responsive upstreams and do have frequent releases. If anyone want to be comaintainer, feel free to

Re: the end of life for flash player (HTML5)

2009-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/05/2009 03:01 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: LOOK the end of life for flash player (HTML5) http://www.dailymotion.com/openvideodemo I am very happy to watch a video without macromedia flash. It is certainly a good start but basically supported in very few browsers at this point.

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/12/2009 06:42 PM, Kyle McMartin wrote: It's almost certainly attributable to the default install using audit. Roland and various others have done a lot of work improving things, but there is always going to be a per-syscall overhead to this kind of thing. A few extra usec a syscall adds

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/12/2009 09:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 19:01 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/12/2009 06:42 PM, Kyle McMartin wrote: It's almost certainly attributable to the default install using audit. Roland and various others have done a lot of work improving things

Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance

2009-06-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/12/2009 09:35 PM, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: put selinux=0 audit=0 in kernel line at /boot/grub/grub.conf then reboot $ dmesg | egrep -i audit|selinux Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=c99c0f86-6ebc-4e0f-91ee-4a6ae7ae6aa9 vga=791 selinux=0 audit=0 audit: disabled (until reboot)

Re: Heads up: bluetoothd on-demand startup

2009-06-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/12/2009 11:35 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: Heya, I've added a patch to bluetoothd in F-12 to support being started via udev, on-demand. bluetoothd will now only start up when you have a Bluetooth adapter plugged, and will exit 30 seconds after the last one went away. Can you add these

Fwd: google-gadgets

2009-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Original Message Subject: google-gadgets Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:28:52 +0200 From: Eric Tanguy eric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr Reply-To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-l...@redhat.com To: Community assistance, encouragement,and

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/15/2009 11:15 AM, Jon Masters wrote: The only counterpoint I came up with was that of folks in parts of the world who don't have access to modern hardware and don't have broadband. Yes but they prefer Live CD or regular DVD images usually. Magazines tend to distribute DVD image.

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/18/2009 04:41 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: No particular reason with a traceable track record, but I've understood that anything that is not composed with pungi or livecd-tools will be blocked as they are the blessed and preferred tools for the job(s). You use whatever tool you want

Re: Announcing LXDE Fedora Remix 11

2009-06-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/19/2009 12:38 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: You never tried to convey anything to me. Back in Februar I asked for your ks and you said you wanted to post it to fedora-devel. This never happened. I got distracted with other things. Mine wasn't that different anyway. It was the almost

Re: Announcing LXDE Fedora Remix 11

2009-06-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/19/2009 01:41 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: To sum it up: You say you wanted to work together with me, but you did not contact me, you did not tell me and you did not send me your ks, although you promised to do so. Right? I made no such promise. I expressed a intend to do so and got

Re: !Help Development of WPA_SUPPLICANT

2009-06-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/19/2009 05:53 PM, Harsha gowda wrote: Hi, Help !, I want to setup a debug build of wpasupplicant so that i can Trace PEAP - MSCHAP v2 protocol for my study, so i have installed Fedora release 10 (Cambridge), the wpa supplicant works fine by default which come with CD, I downloaded

Re: !Help Development of WPA_SUPPLICANT

2009-06-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/19/2009 06:21 PM, Harsha gowda wrote: Still wireless connection is disabled in network-manager, Could you please elaborate what you want to say.. ? You were asking for a method to install the debug information. I have provided you a better way than rebuilding the package from source. You

Re: Announcing LXDE Fedora Remix 11

2009-06-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/19/2009 07:21 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Quote: I will post the ks file and the image to fedora-devel list a bit later. To me this sounds like a promise. If this looks like a promise, then I guess every statement of intend looks like a promise to you. Remember, that you are talking

Re: Heads up: bluetoothd on-demand startup

2009-06-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/13/2009 12:43 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 23:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/12/2009 11:35 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: Heya, I've added a patch to bluetoothd in F-12 to support being started via udev, on-demand. bluetoothd will now only start up when you have

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/22/2009 12:54 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Not possible while we allow people to keep making updates to the older releases. Those updates quickly become version ( not just release even ) higher than the static copies on the release medium and repos. Is there any proposed solution to this

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/22/2009 01:01 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: If you have any ideas I'd like to hear them. A super epoch has already been suggested but that just masks the problem and may cause unwanted downgrades. Any solution either involves severly limiting what kind of updates can be done or requiring

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/22/2009 04:49 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: I think you mean before pushing rather than signing, but this idea has been suggested before. Well, if you aren't going to push anyway, then signing it wouldn't be that useful, right? A koji build can be a trigger for the script check instead of a

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/22/2009 05:35 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Isn't the scripts Michael Schwendt refers to, not useful anymore? Even It's useful. It's generally after the fact though, and in the long run I think we want to be proactive, not reactive. I agree but we aren't even reacting much now. If the

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/22/2009 06:56 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 06:20:07PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/22/2009 05:35 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Isn't the scripts Michael Schwendt refers to, not useful anymore? Even It's useful. It's generally after the fact though, and in the long run I

Re: autodownloader, live spins and packaging

2009-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/23/2009 08:26 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: For example the quake3 package is needed for some games in Fedora, but it makes menu items for some games that are only playable with large downloads. No. It doesn't. Check again. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: rpms/php-pecl-geoip/devel import.log, NONE, 1.1 php-pecl-geoip.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/23/2009 11:36 PM, topdog wrote: Author: topdog Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/php-pecl-geoip/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv2525/devel On the commits mailing list, instead of the author name at the From field, I see only a nick name. Why is that? Rahul --

Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/24/2009 01:42 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: RPM has seen a lot of improvements in speed and memory consumption Are there any improvements on recovery of unexpectedly failed transactions, such as

Re: Thunderbird/Evolution quirks

2009-06-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/25/2009 07:01 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 06/24/2009 08:21 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: If you look at the three things evolution does: mail, contacts and calendar, two out of three fit very well into office. Its the nature of categorization that 'relatively similar' things

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/25/2009 01:37 PM, Simon Andrews wrote: 1) All of our servers have to access the internet via a proxy. At least within the Anaconda UI there doesn't appear to be any support for configuring proxies so I'm forced into kickstart / shells / extra boot options to upgrade? Do you have a

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/26/2009 04:04 PM, Simon Andrews wrote: Alexander Boström wrote: Den 2009-06-25 13:07, Simon Andrews skrev: If all anaconda upgrades are going to be online Anaconda upgrades initiated through Preupgrade do not require a network connection. They will if one of the conditions for

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/27/2009 03:50 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: They sometimes post a mail in a thread like this one and avoid further actions, as they have little hope to have their voice heard by RedHat (this is not a typo for Fedora). Yes, it is a typo for Red Hat :-) Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/27/2009 09:13 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: As for integration, we offer a perfectly integrated KDE spin, thank you very much... We're working really hard on distro integration. For example, why do you think I wrote that KDM ConsoleKit patch back in F7 times (a modified version of which got

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/28/2009 05:25 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: So, most of the stuff you mention will be fixed really soon, probably already in F12! But there are also plenty of KDE features GNOME doesn't have (e.g. where's a GNOME desktop globe matching Marble?). It's perfectly normal that some features are

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/28/2009 01:43 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: There is already a website team. But before i will join them or work with them together, i read a lot and try to find out what will happen. And i doubt it was the website team who made the decision how ugly (sorry just IMO) and poor it looks like.

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/28/2009 03:35 PM, Niels Haase wrote: GNOME KDE - official support from fedora (first class citizen) XFCE - spin only (second class citizen) LXDE - remix only (third class citizen) Just my two pennies worth. Xfce and LXDE are in the central repository and maintained well by the

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/29/2009 12:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: The user does not care, so why present things to the user as if they should? I said nothing about users. You should as a Fedora developer care about integration with leading edge features that makes Fedora stand out. You're calling things

Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/29/2009 02:30 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: I would be worried about users\devs who use fedora apps which depend on C#. Is C# used just for web-apps (fedora context)? # repoquery --whatrequires --all --recursive mono-core It is mostly desktop apps and not web apps. Nothing Fedora specific

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/29/2009 07:20 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: The biggest issue is lack of communication from the only right Desktop - we can't catch changes if these changes are communicated to community too late. Lot of new free desktop techs come from Fedora and we know it and we're working really

Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/29/2009 08:49 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: drago01 wrote: Another don't use $LANGUAGE because its evil post from RMS. So what? His concerns are real. Depends on how you read them and whether you agree with him or not. And for most cases I

Re: FAO: Programmers Quick Q?

2009-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/29/2009 09:04 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Development#Communication with this in mind. Have a ticket open for a new m-l. devel-apps@ or programming-sig@ Any preference? May I request that you gather a community and get some more progress *before*

Re: Heads Up: e2fsprogs library split-out

2009-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/29/2009 09:08 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: There have been a few requests to split out the various libraries in e2fsprogs into subpackages: libcom_err(-devel) libss(-devel) libuuid(-devel) The following packages have BuildRequires: on e2fsprogs-devel, so depending on what libs they

Re: RFC: Kernel changes that may affect desktops

2009-06-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/30/2009 07:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: ACPI docking stations are mildly complicated creatures that require the OS to handle part of the undocking process. We're currently doing this entirely within the kernel, but this has the significant downside that there's no way to handle

Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-06-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/30/2009 09:28 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: 梁穗隆 on 06/30/2009 10:51 AM wrote: So I really hope that solang will replace f-spot soon. And solang has more new features than f-spot. I don't see a package review request or any koji builds. Are you sure it's coming to Fedora? Solang

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 06:03 PM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Rawhide Reportrawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Thu Jul 2 06:15:05 UTC 2009 ... New package ldd-pdf Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition Book in PDF format We ship books as packages? Yes and

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? or what search parameter? Tried yum info Dive Into Python # yum info diveintopython Since we have more than one book, I guess a new group could be defined as well. If there is consensus on the name, I can add it. Should we

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 06:58 PM, Adam Miller wrote: +1 on the Books idea Does this look ok? --- comps-f12.xml.in.orig 2009-07-02 15:39:02.0 +0530 +++ comps-f12.xml.in2009-07-02 19:49:32.108616562 +0530 @@ -520,6 +520,17 @@ /packagelist /group group +idbooks/id +

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 08:45 PM, drago01 wrote: If we want to go this route, why limit it to technical books? That's what is currently available. The description can be changed if policy is. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 08:51 PM, David wrote: I disagree that Fedora should be packaging books, both of these can easily be downloaded via web. Why package something that has no dependencies? We package hundreds of things that have no dependencies and can be downloaded easily via web including fonts.

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 08:37 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Yes and this is not even the first time. Dive Into Python has been in the repo for ages already. That doesn't mean it's compliant with our guidelines on shipping content. I really don't see what benefit it gives us to have

Re: packaging fix in boost

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 10:45 PM, Petr Machata wrote: Hi, recently we've (that's we as in me and Benjamin Kosnik, not a royal we) broken up boost to sub-packages in Fedora Rawhide, but we forgot to drop a filelist at the main boost package, intended as an umbrella over all the sub-packages. So in

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 09:33 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/2 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:52:59PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/2 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? Since we have

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/03/2009 04:56 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 02.07.2009, 23:10 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 07/02/2009 09:33 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: ... Books and Guides even better. Committed for Fedora 12. Correct me if I'm wrong, but new groups in comps are expected

Re: readline update?

2009-07-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/03/2009 03:57 PM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: I'd like to update readline to the latest version 6.0. The problem is that the license was changed to GPLv3+ and we have some GPLv2 packages using readline. A possible replacement is the editline library which provides a compatible interface

Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support

2009-07-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/05/2009 03:28 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: I wanted to draw your attention to a feature I've proposed for Fedora 12, mysteriously called Extended Life Cycle. You can find more details at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle Instead of saying yet to be

Re: fedora EPEL packages.

2009-07-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/09/2009 01:02 PM, yersinia wrote: If someone want mantain an package for EPEL but the maintainer for FEDORA don't, it is possible for someone else to do ? Yes. Refer to the EPEL FAQ. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

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