Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-12 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Alan Evans wrote: Ok. Given the totality of my experience so far combined with the many replies I've received in this thread, I was inclined to believe that starting with a Mac-formatted disk was really causing me serious trouble.

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-12 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 03:15 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: So I tried your suggested of writing zeros over the beginning of the drive, not very hopeful. But it worked! The install proceeded without a hitch and the PC booted the installed OS. (Add fanfare.) However, now that the system is running,

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-10 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Alan Evans wrote: Ok. Given the totality of my experience so far combined with the many replies I've received in this thread, I was inclined to believe that starting with a Mac-formatted disk was really causing me serious trouble. I really need a working system here, so i decided to save

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Howard Wilkinson
Alan Evans wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Alan Evansame.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Just did a fresh install of F11 on a P4. The SATA hard disk was repatriated from a broken iMac. I didn't have install disks handy, so I downloaded the netinstall image and installed the whole thing over

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: Alan Evans wrote: Just did a fresh install of F11 on a P4. The SATA hard disk was repatriated from a broken iMac. I didn't have install disks handy, so I downloaded the netinstall image and installed the whole thing over my home

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 23:11, Alan Evans wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: Did you try when in rescue mode chroot /mnt/sysimage grub-install /dev/sda1 and see what happens. Unknown partition table signature Unknown partition table signature Unknown partition

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/08/09 23:11, Alan Evans wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: Did you try when in rescue mode chroot /mnt/sysimage grub-install /dev/sda1 and see what happens.

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 09/08/09 09:32, Alan Evans wrote: --snip-- Reading some of your newer replies. My mistake This should have been grub-install /dev/sda2 Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, the result is identical. Is there any way you can capture what does come up on screen, how far you get. Even if

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 09/08/09 09:32, Alan Evans wrote: --snip-- Reading some of your newer replies. My mistake This should have been grub-install /dev/sda2 Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, the result is identical. Is there any way you can

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 09/08/09 09:40, Alan Evans wrote: --snip-- What comes up in response to the grub-install? It's exactly what I posted a couple messages back: sh-4.0# chroot /mnt/sysimage sh-4.0# grub-install /dev/sda2 Unknown partition table signature Unknown partition table signature Unknown

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: No, I meant if you try and boot normally. from the hard disk, without any cd\dvd Sorry, I thought I must be misunderstanding your question. Removing the rescue disc from the CD drive results in: DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 09/08/09 10:09, Alan Evans wrote: I don't have a LiveCD handy, only the netinstall CD. Downloading a LiveCD would take me a very long time. Send me you postal address *offlist*. and I will send you on one. Your preference Gnome\KDE\XFCE https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Frankly3d

Parted - Partitions was Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 09/08/09 10:09, Alan Evans wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: No, I meant if you try and boot normally. from the hard disk, without any cd\dvd Sorry, I thought I must be misunderstanding your question. Removing the rescue disc from the CD drive results

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: I don't have a LiveCD handy, only the netinstall CD. Downloading a LiveCD would take me a very long time. Send me you postal address *offlist*. and I will send you on one. That's very kind of you, sir, but hardly efficient. If

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Howard Wilkinson
Alan, see in-line ... Alan Evans wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: Alan Evans wrote: Just did a fresh install of F11 on a P4. The SATA hard disk was repatriated from a broken iMac. I didn't have install disks handy, so I downloaded the

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 08/09/2009 04:17 AM, Alan Evans wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: Alan Evans wrote: Just did a fresh install of F11 on a P4. The SATA hard disk was repatriated from a broken iMac. snip I'm still confused about how anaconda can possibly mount a partition

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 02:35 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: Are we really at a stopping point until I have one? I'm desperate enough that I toyed with the idea of allowing fdisk to clear the partition table then rerun the installer and interrupt it just after it writes the default partitions to disk

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 01:17 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: I'm still confused about how anaconda can possibly mount a partition (two, including the boot partition) when fdisk thinks the partition table is invalid. I suppose there's a chance that fdisk partitions a drive differently than how Anaconda

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:02:42 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: On 08/09/2009 04:17 AM, Alan Evans wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: Alan Evans wrote: Just did a fresh install of F11 on a P4. The SATA hard disk was repatriated from a broken iMac. snip I'm still

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: On 08/09/2009 04:17 AM, Alan Evans wrote: I'm still confused about how anaconda can possibly mount a partition (two, including the boot partition) when fdisk thinks the partition table is invalid. The kernel is capable of dealing with HFS (Apple) partitions! I

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertsonmik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: On 08/09/2009 04:17 AM, Alan Evans wrote: I'm still confused about how anaconda can possibly mount a partition (two, including the boot partition) when fdisk thinks the partition table is

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 19:41 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: I used fdisk to fix the apparently broken partition table. For good measure, I even created a dummy partition and ran mke2fs on it to assure the drive was in good shape. If you were erasing the drive, rather than *fix* the partition table,

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 21:43, Alan Evans wrote: --snip-- I booted from the install CD and selected rescue mode. Rescue mode mounted /dev/sda2 on /mnt/sysimage. I looked and the install appears intact. I ran fdisk on /dev/sda and it complained, Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-08 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: Did you try when in rescue mode chroot /mnt/sysimage grub-install /dev/sda1 and see what happens. Unknown partition table signature Unknown partition table signature Unknown partition table signature Unknown partition table

Re: can't boot fresh install

2009-08-08 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Alan Evansame.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Just did a fresh install of F11 on a P4. The SATA hard disk was repatriated from a broken iMac. I didn't have install disks handy, so I downloaded the netinstall image and installed the whole thing over my home DSL. This

Re: Can't boot Live-XFCE [SOLVED]

2009-06-19 Thread Konstantin Svist
Thanks to magic keys, I was able to semi-debug the issue. Apparently, F11 waits for a device to be mounted to continue at this point. The script that does this normally prints out this info -- but apparently the caller dumps it into /dev/null. In other words, the problem is hidden. This laptop

Re: Can't boot Live-XFCE

2009-06-16 Thread Konstantin Svist
Frank Murphy wrote: snip The fault you found check if they are known bugs, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs Nope, none of those Then check agains bugzilla for any that may be relevant: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478893 Yep, already saw it. acpi=off worked

Re: Can't boot Live-XFCE

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On 15/06/09 01:01, Konstantin Svist wrote: What's my next step? I was able to install F8 onto this laptop, somehow (think I had to use a netinstall CD) Alternately, how do I start the install process from the Live CD if I'm in F8? I tried mounting squashfs.img (failed) and tried unsquashfs

Re: Can't boot Live-XFCE

2009-06-15 Thread Konstantin Svist
Frank Murphy wrote: On 15/06/09 01:01, Konstantin Svist wrote: What's my next step? I was able to install F8 onto this laptop, somehow (think I had to use a netinstall CD) Alternately, how do I start the install process from the Live CD if I'm in F8? I tried mounting squashfs.img (failed)

Re: Can't boot Live-XFCE

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On 15/06/09 17:37, Konstantin Svist wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: snip The fault you found check if they are known bugs, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs Then check agains bugzilla for any that may be relevant: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478893 Rem rhgb and

Re: Can't boot after an update

2009-05-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
DB freddog...@yahoo.co.uk writes: I'm now trying to find a script that will clean /tmp automatically on a regular basis. (I think part of the backlog is due to the switch from Gnome to KDE) I clean my /tmp on each orderly shutdown. That way if the system crashes, my /tmp is preserved but

Re: Can't boot after an update

2009-05-25 Thread DB
Sorry all, hit send too quick forgot to change the subject line (again!) Mea maxima culpa. Dave Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:39:34 -0700 From: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.rupprecht+gnus200...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Can't boot after an update To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID

Re: [Bulk] Re: Can't boot after an update

2009-05-24 Thread DB
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 23 May 2009 20:41:16 DB wrote: Anyone got any thoughts as to what might have happened how I might get past this %(%$$ login?? Many thanks (again) for any help Unlikely as it seems, it looks as though something has messed up your /home ownership. Use

Re: Can't boot after an update

2009-05-24 Thread DB
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 00:39:39 +0200 From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re: Can't boot after an update To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: gv9tvb$6v...@ger.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DB wrote: Got myself to a CLI, logged

Re: Can't boot after an update

2009-05-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 24 May 2009 21:36:12 DB wrote: Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 00:39:39 +0200 From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re: Can't boot after an update To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: gv9tvb$6v...@ger.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DB

Re: Can't boot after an update

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
DB wrote: Got myself to a CLI, logged on as root, edited inittab to start in level 3. Login under my normal username is accepted, try startx, screen flashes some text (something about authority, I think from the bit I can see), screen goes black then comes back to the CLI with several repeats

RE: Can't boot!

2009-05-15 Thread Pedro Freire
-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Callaghan Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:47 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Can't boot! On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 21:25 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009, William M. Quarles

Re: Can't boot!

2009-05-14 Thread Mike McCarty
William M. Quarles wrote: OK, this PC is playing mean tricks on me. The past 10 times I've tried to boot it, the boot has failed, and also, the keyboard stops responding (so CtrlAltanything doesn't work). This thing is behaving very inconsistently, because it just did a successful boot and I

RE: Can't boot!

2009-05-14 Thread Paul
-Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Callaghan Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:47 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Can't boot! On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 21:25 -0400, William M. Quarles

Re: Can't boot!

2009-05-13 Thread S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
On Wed, 13 May 2009, William M. Quarles wrote: The computer seems to die right about when X is about to start. Can you try ctrlaltF1 (and F2, F3, ...) to see of console login is on? -- (stephan paul) Arif Sahari Wibowo /___ /___/ /___/ /___

Re: Can't boot!

2009-05-13 Thread William M. Quarles
S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009, William M. Quarles wrote: The computer seems to die right about when X is about to start. Can you try ctrlaltF1 (and F2, F3, ...) to see of console login is on? OK, this PC is playing mean tricks on me. The past 10 times I've tried to

Re: Can't boot!

2009-05-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 21:25 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009, William M. Quarles wrote: The computer seems to die right about when X is about to start. Can you try ctrlaltF1 (and F2, F3, ...) to see of console login is on? OK, this

Re: can't boot fc9 live CD on Optiplex 755

2008-12-08 Thread Dave Burns
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dave Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to boot the old fc9 live CD on a Dell Optiplex 755. It gets to the point where X is supposed to start and the screen goes wonky, apparently crashes. I

Re: can't boot fc9 live CD on Optiplex 755

2008-12-02 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dave Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dave Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: can't boot fc9 live CD on Optiplex 755 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:45 PM I'm trying to