Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 15:29:07 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Well if he had you wouldn't know about it would you? I know I've done it
on occasion. There is a point to sometimes complaining publicly: keeping
all complaints private sends the implicit message that no-one
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Robert L Cochran wrote:
Guidelines are voluntary.
So is providing help on the list. Not following the guidelines is a
good way to limit those willing to help you.
Too bad there isn't a guideline on sending off-topic complaints about posting
form, spelling, etc,
public and somewhat hostile, Snip extraneous
quotes from your posts to the list, dammit! is not the way to get cooperation.
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On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 10:07 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Robert L Cochran wrote:
Guidelines are voluntary.
So is providing help on the list. Not following the guidelines is a
good way to limit those willing to help you.
Too bad there isn't a guideline on
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 15:29:07 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Well if he had you wouldn't know about it would you? I know I've done it
on occasion. There is a point to sometimes complaining publicly: keeping
all complaints private sends the implicit message that no-one has a
problem with
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Too bad there isn't a guideline on sending off-topic complaints about
posting form, spelling, etc, etc, directly to the poster and not filling
the list with noise.
You mean like resurrecting a thread that died 2 weeks ago?
I guess it would be better to bombard the poster
on clipping was both public and somewhat
hostile, Snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit!
is not the way to get cooperation.
You are assuming that there was not a private message sent first. I
can understand a somewhat hostile message to the list if the private
message
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Robert L Cochran
cochr...@speakeasy.netwrote:
Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view
and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and
practices.
When you resort to threats of no help to me unless I toe the
Snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit! (You, and
everyone else doing this.)
It's a pain to read stuff when there's three pages of stuff that just
isn't needed in a message, and has to be scrolled past to find the
reply.
It's a waste of everyone's time, bandwidth
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 15:36 +0930, Tim wrote:
Snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit!
+1
poc
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Do you give out tickets and fines, jail terms and excommunication for
the crime of posting?
Bob
On 09/13/2009 02:06 AM, Tim wrote:
Snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit! (You, and
everyone else doing this.)
It's a pain to read stuff when there's three pages of stuff
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 09:52 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
Do you give out tickets and fines, jail terms and excommunication for
the crime of posting?
Have you actually read the list guidelines (including the part about not
top-posting)?
poc
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Guidelines are voluntary.
I don't crucify, burn at stake, hang, dismember or torture other list
people for doing things differently. We do not live in the 1400s any longer.
Bob
On 09/13/2009 10:00 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 09:52 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
Robert L Cochran wrote:
Guidelines are voluntary.
So is providing help on the list. Not following the guidelines is a
good way to limit those willing to help you.
I don't crucify, burn at stake, hang, dismember or torture other list
people for doing things differently. We do not live in the
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 09:52 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
Do you give out tickets and fines, jail terms and excommunication for
the crime of posting?
No, but you get properly roasted for being a pain in the butt.
Every post sent to this server is sent to hundreds, perhaps thousands,
of
Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view
and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and
practices.
When you resort to threats of no help to me unless I toe the line you
dictate to me, you illustrate what I'm getting at.
It takes people
On 09/13/2009 10:35 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Robert L Cochran wrote:
Guidelines are voluntary.
So is providing help on the list. Not following the guidelines is a
good way to limit those willing to help you.
I don't crucify, burn at stake, hang, dismember or torture
All I ask is let everyone try keep civil to each other.
(The order this appears in the thread, is just that.
Please attach no significance to it)
Regards,
Frank
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Guidelines:
Robert L Cochran wrote:
Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different
view and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs
and practices.
Please don't conflate personal freedom with ignoring list norms and
basic netiquette. This is akin to insisting on
On Sunday 13 September 2009 16:57:58 Robert L Cochran wrote:
Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view
and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and
practices.
Absolutely true. You can continue to have no consideration for those that
offer
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 11:57 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
It takes people with many different views to make a good product. If I
banned everyone from my workplace who doesn't think as I do, then I'd
be standing in the building alone. With nothing to show for it.
The usual strawman argument
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:57:58AM -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view
and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and
practices.
Dear Bob,
1. please be considerate of volunteer effort, as it is very
On 09/13/2009 03:20 PM, Robert L Cochran wrote:
Guidelines are voluntary.
I don't crucify, burn at stake, hang, dismember or torture other list
people for doing things differently. We do not live in the 1400s any
longer.
Bob
On 09/13/2009 10:00 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun,
2009/9/13 Peter l Jakobi li...@kefk.oa.shuttle.de:
2. Wasting someones time with excess quoting and flaming in
mailinglists is a good way to ensure that he'll loose his enthusiasm.
Flaming is bad, but I for one don't have too much of a problem with
excess quoting. It doesn't take
Robert L Cochran wrote:
Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view
and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and
practices.
I'm from Milwaukee - I know something about the US. You can have
your own beliefs. But you are constrained in your
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 08:55:24PM +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/9/13 Peter l Jakobi li...@kefk.oa.shuttle.de:
Again, I'm not too fussed - I work in a Microsoft Environment where
most people do this - I respect the etiquette guidelines of the list
on this, but I don't usually castigate
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Sharpe, Sam J
sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/13 Peter l Jakobi li...@kefk.oa.shuttle.de:
2. Wasting someones time with excess quoting and flaming in
mailinglists is a good way to ensure that he'll loose his enthusiasm.
.
I
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