Nina, I woke up this morning thinking how ironic it is that the internist does not want to try chemo without a definitive diagnosis but wanted to pts without one. If it is cancer it is lymphoma, given where it is and how it responds to steroids. If she thinks it could be something other than
Please, please try Acemannan or Immuno-Regulin shots. If it is not cancer and is immune-mediated, these both seem to help with felv-caused anemia. I would try acemannan first, because two people on this list personally had it save their cats from anemia. Immuno-regulin is supposed to help with
Do you have him on Lysine? If not, you should start giving him 500 mg/day crushed and mixed in his food (or in baby food if he won't eat it in his food, or you can pill him with it but it is a big pill).
Michelle
tad, I am so sorry about Leo. Orange cats seem to usually be amazing. My Simon surely was. And he did not mind going to the vet for treatments either, and in fact did not mind being in the hospital that much. He only started to mind when some idiot couldn't get a catheter in and stuck him
Well, I can bring it up at the next meeting. Unfotuntely I dont' think I will get a majority vote on that, particularly not from the lady who wrote off 30k in medical expenses last year.
Come to think of it, though, the discussion has always been to split off from our current group and make our
That is very true. Thank you.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/11/06 5:07:01 PM
One thing I always consider with testing -- the tests, the trip to a
vet and drawing of blood, is really stressful for the cat. So if you
have even a single positive ELISA test, go with the IFA next time. The
less the cat
At 04:33 AM 9/12/2006, you wrote:
Amazing?? sort of like sending a woman to jail for using drugs in her
first trimester because it might hurt the baby but giving her
permission to have an abortion
Go figure
Kelly
Nina, I woke up this morning thinking how ironic it is that the
internist
Yesterday we were
at the vet withourMissy, and were told she's due for a rabies
shot. I know it's "the law" in these parts, but Iwanted to wait
until I had refreshed my mind on which way to
go.
To the best of my recollection, the 3-year shot is
considered (by everybody but the vets ;-))
it depends on your state laws--some won't accept the 3-year-shot as valid if anything happens (ie, cat bites someone, or a bat is found in your house). if your state accepts the 3-year, go with that
the other thing, ask your vet if they think she really needs it--in many states, a vet's
Actually, she was open to further diagnostic testing. At the time,
Spencer was so weak, and my pocket book is so stretched, that she just
figured that whatever it is, based on her experience, treatments would
only buy him a limited amount of time. That doesn't explain why she
isn't more
Put a dollop of "untainted" baby food on top of the little pile with
the lysine mixed in. That gets them started and you have a better
chance of them eating all of it. Prayers that Crackers beats this
thing quickly.
N
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Do you have him on Lysine? If not, you
Laura,
It breaks my heart to hear about Ziggy's retest being positive. He's
one lucky kitty to have found you. It may not always feel like it with
everything you are going through, (we all know how heart wrenching it
can be), but you are so very fortunate as well. Keep telling him that,
Hey, Diane - I may have missed something so you may have answered this in an earlier email. Since Missy is totally indoors and especially since she is older, with "older issues" is there any reason you couldn't just not vaccinate for rabies at all? "Rosenfeldt, Diane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if vets are like human doctors, they get very little pharmaceutical education, and learn much of what they do know from the manufacturer's detail personnel--for human meds, pharmacists are generally much more knowledgeable about what drugs actually do. i don't know, tho, how much they'd know about
Oh Tad... I remember when I lost my Jazzy, every marginally successful
post I read that sounded like her condition, I'd cringe over. I was
happy that other people's cats were responding favorably to treatment,
but I just felt so bad that I hadn't tried more, or something else, or
anything
In many states a vet can get clearance for not
vaccinating an animal. I'm not sure how it is done but my vet did it for a
dog that had a compromised immune system. You might need to
ask.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and
That would be my first choice, actually, and we've been questioning the
protocol all this time since our babies never never never go out.
(Although once I had the front door open,cleaning the storm window I
think,and Missy, who is usually timid,came outas far as the
stoop to have a
I was able to license Mai Mai without the rabies
shots based on whatever documents my vet produced. She has been gone
almost 8 years. I am sorry I don't remember all the hoops he jumped
thru. He took the line that the vaccines could kill her
though.
If you have men who will exclude
Diane,
I would avoid giving Missy any more rabies vaccinations. Did you say
you are in CA? I don't think the laws governing rabies shots are state
wide. I think it's by county, but I'm not sure. Call your licensing
office, tell them why you are hesitant to vaccinate further, (she's
indoor
Tad, no worries, thank you for clearing it up - I thought I knew that I knew what you meant, but I wanted to make sure - sometimes (oftentimes) I am quite surprised.
Thank you again for your help,
Leslie
From: Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Interferon questions - after some venting
Someone from my Internist's office just called back, (not a vet). The
message was to keep him on the dex and to make an appointment for
further testing to confirm lymphoma. Probably they will try to capture
some fluid, perhaps an ultrasound to confirm the existence of a mass.
I made the first
I forgot to mention that I did ask Michelle's question about why, when
they would recommend pts, they would be unwilling to treat something
without a definitive diagnosis. Her answer was, (and this was not the
vet, so...), they would not want to put me through the expense, or
Spencer through
No, we're in Wisconsin, and do not license any of our pets. Last I
heard licenses were $44/year each, and nobody does it unless there's
some sort of official reason. Even the evil Humane Society (not
county or state affiliated) who are absolute Nazis about checking vet
records on every animal
But the response to this might be, if there's a chance that it *isn't*
cancer, then maybe it's something that's less life-threatening, so why
just pts out of hand? I realize that it is most likely lymphoma :-(,
but when our Luc was so sick last year his ultrasound (he didn't get an
Xray) showed a
My soul-kitty is Missy and she has a heart murmur too.
I personally do not get her vaccinated against anything, on my vet's advice. Vaccinations are pretty dangerous for cats with heart problems.
I have never given a thought to her biting anyone. She's never bitten anyone and isn't likely to
Vet can write a letter for you and you can
submit a letter to animal control since animal control is the one who keeps
record heres the sample of the letter I have I used for my
kitties (I have different version depending on illness)..
To Whom It May Concern:
This letter is to
I wouldnt vaccinate her at all.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006
10:24 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Question re rabies
vaccine
Hey, Diane - I may have missed something so you may
Title: Message
Hi guys
I'm sorry I've not been on the list
recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK againwhileworking on an
adopter for one of my fosters.)
As always, all sick kitties are in my
thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lostbeloved
furbabies.
I wonder if I could
Title: Message
I have to agree with this person.. any
change is very stressful for a kitty.. I think its a probably good idea
to introduce changes gradually so that this kitty wont be facing too
many changes at the same time.. once this kitty is used to a new home and then
can bring the
Title: Message
Thanks
Hideyo!
-Original Message-From:
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On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006
3:59 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: o/t
established cat and new cat
I have to agree with
this person..
if you're not a 501(c)3, a lot of folks won't donate to you
you won't get sales-tax breaks
you can't take advantage of programs that medical and food companies offer to shelters/rescues (idexx, bayer, schering-ploughand science diet, for example)
depending upon your state, you might get a call
Hi, I found this product to make an oxygen tank for my ayumi
is this something that will work to make an oxygen tank for my cat?
http://www.emergencypax.com/oxygen/component/option,com_phpshop/page,shop.browse/category_id,1/TreeId,1/
Hi all,we need many prayers for sweet Kruncher,he might have FIP on top of the FIV,he is the cat that I am sponsoring at the sanctuary.He is losing weight and his muscle mass is diminishing.I just e-mailed Jen to ask her to give him a kiss for me if she has to let him cross over to the other side
I would go with your on instincts on what to do if you are in doubt. I
learned the hard way. My cat Pokemon, I lost herexactly 2 weeks ago...the animal
hospital said she has lyphomia and is dying...YET then didn't even test her
for FELV. The Hospital said PTS Pokies was the only
At 05:14 PM 9/12/2006, you wrote:
You sound so much better and I am so glad to hear it, I'll bet you can
look at Crackers now and see your wonderful companion rather than an
terminally ill animal, I am still awaiting the IFA results on Max
but we are enjoying the heck out ofr him and hes is
At 05:11 PM 9/12/2006, you wrote:
Give Kruncher hugs form me and all my good wishes,,I will continue to
hope,
Kelly
Hi all,we need many prayers for
sweet Kruncher,he might have FIP on top of the FIV,he is the cat that I
am sponsoring at the sanctuary.He is losing weight and his muscle mass is
Sherry,
Prayers going out for Kruncher that it's not FIP, I just hate that virus even more than Felv, if that's possible.
Best wishes,
Beth
All
best strength vibes to Kruncher!
Diane R.
-Original Message-From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Sherry
DeHaanSent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:12 PMTo:
FelvtalkSubject: Kruncher
Hi all,we need many prayers for sweet Kruncher,he might
Of course he's in my prayers.GinaSherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all,we need many prayers for sweet Kruncher,he might have FIP on top of the FIV,he is the cat that I am sponsoring at the sanctuary.He is losing weight and his muscle mass is diminishing.I just e-mailed Jen to ask
My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty.
BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respective
households -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her with
Tribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to each
other,
OMG -- my drink just went out my nose reading about your introductions
LOL thanks for the laugh :0)
dude!
elizabeth
In a message dated 9/12/2006 8:45:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My first
instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty.BUT.
He is happy and safe and loved. Blessings to
you, to him and to all who care for him and others like
him.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow
man.
St. Francis
When they are introduced please consider using lots of Feliway in the rooms,
not on the cats, but on you and in the rooms, Super Catnip in the area and
Rescue Remedy on the cats and in their water. Neither cat needs to be
stressed any more than absolutely necessary.
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