Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan

2009-08-30 Thread MaryChristine
promising is the word, in fact, it's the same word that the dept of agriculture uses. LCTI has been around for years before imulan bought it, and it's been promising for all that time. i think it'd be GREAT if it works, but when you have something that's not proven, you don't run out and put it

Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan

2009-08-30 Thread Jane Lyons
This is the third time, in the two plus years that I have been on this list, that people have come on to talk about the benefit and promise of Imulan. Each time this has happened I have asked my vet, then a friends vet, and then just last week I went back to my original vet with the

Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan

2009-08-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Would be interesting to hear from folks who have used Imulan - Gloria On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Jane Lyons wrote: This is the third time, in the two plus years that I have been on this list, that people have come on to talk about the benefit and promise of Imulan. Each time this has

[Felvtalk] IMULAN

2009-08-30 Thread Alice Flowers
After hearing about this product-I called our vet here in Sacramento and she agreed to order it for us. I want to try it because we lost the 4th kitty this morning-my son drove him to UC Davis emergency early this morning because he was struggling to breath and crying out. Out of the 5 kittens

Re: [Felvtalk] IMULAN

2009-08-30 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Alice, I am so sorry to hear about all your losses. That's just too much loss for just a few months. Gentle Bridge vibes to Schatzi, Buster, Oni and Jack, and hugs to you. Best wishes for Rosie and Murphy to beat the odds. Diane R. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Felvtalk] IMULAN

2009-08-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I do that too - try things to see what works, when they sound possible and likely. When they can't breathe, due to mediastinal lymphoma, I have the fluid drawn off, and after that it's up for grabs - have treated each one differently. One of them, Mittens, I treated that way, and the vet

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
yes, a sanctuary in every ton would be ideal, but so would a world where people did not hurt one another and animals just for the fun of it. until that tim, we have to do the best we can for ourselves and our animals. try to live our lives as an example to othersand hope they catch on. till

Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
Dr. Fox had a letter in his column recently from a lady whose cat suddenly lost control of her back legs and was screaming constantly. he said this often happens expecially with older cats. they develope a blood clot and it lodges in the spie just before the hind legs, causing paralysis. if

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread Susan Hoffman
Yeah, that and an end to world hunger and peace in our timeTill, then, we just keep treading water and do the best we can. - Original Message From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday,

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
if the cats have plenty of room to avoid a cat they don't like or that doesn't like them, shelter, food and someone to scratch their chin, rub their back, play with them a bit and lots of windows to look out, maybe even an outside play room, i think they would think that ideal. my babies do.

Re: [Felvtalk] quality of life/fates worse than death

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
forgot t add good medical care. dorlis MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: not exactly what we were talking about, but then again. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=95876917773h=zHhF_u=bAdDOref=nf -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The

Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
i am always getting those messages. they tell me i am using the wrong email or password. got the things written down in a book and same ones i have been using for years. hate those messags. dorlis MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: uh oh, am i being technologically

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
do they ask for donations when you send a cat there or do they leave that up to you? i was thinking of taking out a small life policy to go with my babies when the time comes. make them the beneficiary. dorlis Alice Hanson alicehans...@msn.com wrote: It is a good place, Sharyl. One of

Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan

2009-08-30 Thread Hotmail Junk
Jane, Contact me at cstet...@hotmail.com, I will share my vets info. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: This is the third time, in the two plus years that I have been on this list, that people have come on to talk about the benefit and

Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
me too! i lost 2 close a month apart last year, then my father (92) and then my last baby who was 18. he took care of father his last year, coming for me when father called me and sitting on the cornerf his bed, never leaving him. he died 1 week after father. of course, God gave me 6 more

Re: [Felvtalk] IMULAN

2009-08-30 Thread Jane Lyons
I can really understand your desperation, Alice. I really hope the Imulan works. We'll be waiting for your updates and hoping that Rosie and Murphy live a very long life. Jane On Aug 30, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Alice Flowers wrote: After hearing about this product-I called our vet here in

Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan

2009-08-30 Thread Hotmail Junk
We have been using it for a while with good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Would be interesting to hear from folks who have used Imulan - Gloria On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Jane Lyons wrote: This is the third time,

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread MaryChristine
and as someone once told me, forget about visualizing world peace, it's time we start ACTUALIZING it love one another. i don't recall that statement coming with a number-of-legs or freedom-from-virii condition. MC On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comwrote:

Re: [Felvtalk] IMULAN

2009-08-30 Thread MaryChristine
i, too, hope that LCTI works--we need a miracle. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: I can really understand your desperation, Alice. I really hope the Imulan works. We'll be waiting for your updates and hoping that Rosie and Murphy live a very long life.

Re: [Felvtalk] IMULAN

2009-08-30 Thread Jane Lyons
I've gotten MeMe past the three year hurdle using Interferon alpha, DMG and a raw diet. Considering how sick she was when we got her, every day is a miracle. Jane On Aug 30, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: I do that too - try things to see what works, when they sound possible and

Re: [Felvtalk] OT - Feral cat food bank

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
i am late as usual, so how do i send a couple of bucks for the ferals? dorlis Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, We have started a feral cat food bank here. We have been able to assist some people who were no longer able to feed their colonies to start feeding them

Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now

2009-08-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
This happened to my sister in laws 18 year old cat and they gave the meds to dissolve clots (don't know what you would need anesthesia for), my SIL had to express her kitties bladder and do physical therapy on his back legs for about a month but after her kitty was back to normal and lived

Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
unfortunately, they dump their children too. a representative of the Baptist Children's Home in St. Louis was at our church and i was complaining about people dumping their animals. he said the home gets more than you would think that were taken on a picnic or some other outing. parents said

Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
Susan, if you negative cats are up on their shots, let your positive baby in with them. i have 2 positives and they are not seperated. my vet said that as long as the negatives are up on their shots and there are no bloody battles (especially biting), there should be no problem. i tried to

Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?

2009-08-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
More often than not a sudden death without any noticeable symptoms is usually heart related. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] IMULAN

2009-08-30 Thread Laurieskatz
Alice, I am so sorry to hear about Schatzi... Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] IMULAN

Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?

2009-08-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
PS. In a young cat especially, undetected HCM usually strikes kitties 6 and under, I had one that was 9 years old die from this. Perfectly healthy until he had a seizure and died. The vet said from the symptoms I described it was heart related. He did check him over to see if he choked on

Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan for Jane

2009-08-30 Thread Laurieskatz
Jane, I will see if my vet will talk to yours. Do you want to send me your vet's phone number or email address? Then I will ask my vet if she will contact yours. She may want your vet to contact her. I will just have to ask her. I can't post her contact information here. I have it only because she

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - freezing interferon

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
thank you Patricia! i have learned so much from everyone oin this group. when would i have a chance to talk with scientists working with this sort of thing. only wish i could go back to school for the rest of my life andlearn everything that i want to know. so once again, thanks for

Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors. maybe that will make a difference. i know a lot of people i would like to do that to. same ones that don't take care of pets also do not take care of children. when i reported a case of abuse, the investigator said that at least 8

Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
just the fact that they did not attempt to do anything for him is considered abuse. Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: Oh, Lord, Kelley, these people really have no right to any pets!!! Poor Jack, I hope he didn't suffer too much. I know he knows you cared and would have

Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now

2009-08-30 Thread gary
My first FeLV kitty to die had the rear legs stop working and he was unable to eliminate on his own. They checked and it was not a clot, they believed it to be a neurological problem. Most cats with a clot are - as you described - in a lot of pain. With my boy there didn't seem to be any pain.

Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
even people in wheelchairs can use the phone. she could have called you. i am sure she knows you would take thenecessary steps ad foot the bill if she could not afford it. if i were her, i would have done whatever was necessary to help him. if i did not know how to give subq fluids, i would

Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
i'll go for that solution. Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: Or children for that matter, we don't what them bringing more irresponsible idiots into the world, we have enough of those I'm so sorry Kelly. That is heartbreaking. This us why I think people should

Re: [Felvtalk] World without man

2009-08-30 Thread Lorrie
On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors. maybe that will make a difference. i know a lot of people i would like to do that to. same ones that don't take care of pets also do not take care of children. when i reported a case of

Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
BUT, they amke it so hard for us to be forgiving and wanting to help them. MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: i'm so sorry, hon, for jack, for all the others that these folks will harm due to their ignorance--intentional or not--and for you continuing to have to deal with

Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
fewer homes for more animals can only be solved oe way. responsible pet ownership means spay and or neuter. don't becomes a part of the problem, be a part of the solution. Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
my vet said the virus dies when it is dry. just to be sure, wash down with clorox. maybe not the scratching posts since they are usually not washable. wash everything down with cclorox and set out in the sun to dry. doggone...@doggonefit.com wrote: Hello everyone, After many years

Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
litter boxes - i have one for each cat plus an extra one. for some reason, they all choose to use 2 boxes fr urine and 2 others for stools. the other boxes only get used occassionally. Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: I adopted 3 FeLV- cats 3 1/2 months after Squeaky, FeLV+

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
re: eating litter. why do cats do that? what were the pills tey gave Lucy? Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: Me, too about the cat litter. That could explain the vomiting. If he is vomiting and not having stools, it can mean the kitty is blocked and needs to be seen asap. They

Re: [Felvtalk] hemobart v bartonella

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
why do they keep renaming things? they do that with flowers and some of my plant tags are so full of new names that i have to amke new ones. MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, belinda, for these links--maybe should be on the main pages? (do any of these refer to

Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
ok, it is getting late and my brain is fuzzy - what is A/D? IS TOFU GOOD FOR CATS? Emily Hunter emilyofw...@aol.com wrote: Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of the A/D on hand since

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV persian is NEGATIVE...

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
maybe you really did not need another, you would have taken her anyway. that isjust the way we are wired. MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: once again folks, i really need you to hold on to what we know about FeLV and testing. a couple of months ago, there was a situation

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
sounds like you have my vet. Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Belinda, Thanks for writing. I totally understand how you feel and just wanted to respond. My vet has worked with my leuk positives for several years now and is amazing. I've spent years working at different

Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

2009-08-30 Thread Susan Hoffman
A/D is a specially prepared canned cat food that is high nutrition and very palatable. As far as tofu is concerned, I have cats who like soy products but it is not nutritionallly complete for cats so I would not let a cat try to live oin it.  But I'll give most cats whatever appeals to them as

Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

2009-08-30 Thread Laurieskatz
Soy products (eg tofu) have a greater likelihood (than some other ingredients) of causing an allergic reaction. AD should have an expiration date on the can. I keep both AD and Low residue on hand (Low residue works to get Frankie back on track when he has fudgy stools). L -Original