I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a
platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any
candidate horrible names!
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy
reasoner
Sent: Wednesday,
Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org
http://www.furkids.org/
_
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list
As someone posted already
As someone posted already, as soon as someone needs advice, the off topic will
change immediately. This happens during a lull – we haven’t had any serious
issues for a while!, which is good. Then your problem came along, and I saw
quite a few replies from several people; if you feel it wasn’t
You have to erase a lot of stuff - previous messages! It happens all the
time because we've all been adding our 2 cents!
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
CATHERINE DIDONNA
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
I actually use Frontline on incoming cats with fleas..just that once, then
it's the friendly little nematodes!
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]
inside your house? I thought they are just for the yard,
need soil and water to do their thing.
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors
too!
_
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 4
My vet actually treats those cats in a “special” way, knowing that their immune
systems are compromised..
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
molvey...@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re:
Remember that there are some cats that you cannot bathe, no matter what! It is
important to keep the soap on for about 5 minutes! Didsolve the little
bugger’s waxy coating! Natalie
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin
Potter
Sent: Friday, October
Yes, it is the cruelest blood sport, except maybe with an atlatl, a really
old type spear. Statistics for bowhunting injuries are over 50% - that
means that for every deer actually tracked and retrieved, another one that
has been shot with an arrow gets away, to die a slow, lingering death (all
The person who had the experience with Braveheart is actually a member, and
I joined at her suggestion because I had two FeLV+ cats at the time.
Natalie
-Original Message-
From: GRAS [mailto:g...@optonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:01 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
It’s really interesting because when, and that’s rarely, that they reach a
biological carrying capacity (or in a severe winter and no food), sperm counts
go down and females, in real dire situations, will actually absorb their
fetuses. Also, people mistake deer as starving in the winter
In CT and many other states they are no longer required to have IDs on
arrows - it was fought tooth and nail because they didn't want to be
identified as bad marksmen!
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Heather
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 5:51 PM
To:
I've watched the show a few times, and most of those cat owners are real
idiots! It makes me so mad, that I can't watch.
But, yes, the guy knows what he's doing!
Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
I feel so horrible for anyone who has to watch their loved ones, people or
pets, suffer needlessly without the proper help!
I sat with my mother for 3 weeks, even nights, but had to go to her house to
care for her cats, take a shower and change clothing. They were going to
send her home with a
When I moved my mother to a better hospital, where they had the hospice,
they quickly wheeled her out for another MRI before the move - there was no
need for it - just make some more money! Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Absolutely - that's what they can choose to do in the Netherlands..so much
better!
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] NY
People are so stupid - after adopting out cats for 20 years, I cannot get
over it.
Once poor Barnaby is out of there, they should cement that gap so it
doesn't happen again. Can food and water be placed into that crawlspace?
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
A sign of stomatitis is usually pawing at the mouth when eating.
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chloe not eating
All the Hill's Science Diet foods are absolute junk! Look at the
ingredients - you can do better reading labels on better quality foods, and
get better food for less. Instead of A-D, to mix with meds and use syringe,
I cook chicken and then use my Magic Bullet to make a chicken mousse with
the
Great news!
Please have them close up that gap so it can't happen again!
Hope Barnaby is OK!
Keep us posted!
Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:43
What kind of a vet would suggest euthanasia of cats that once had a cold?
With vets like that, who needs enemies! The same goes for having a cold
that would be a corona virus, which often makes diagnosis of FIP hard
because it's also a corona virus.OMG - I have NEVER, ever, heard of anything
like
I have transported several real scaredy cats by plane, in the cabin. I
always used a harness with a leash on them and a pillow case over them when
I took them out of the carrier to go through security. I merely picked up
the pillow case, with the open end together in a bunch, leash hanging
How are Oliver's kidney values?
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need advice for our cat Oliver
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need advice for our cat Oliver
His BUN and Crea are normal. His HCT has dropped from about 30% to 28%
since July. Otherwise everything else is normal.
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:29 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
How are Oliver's kidney values?
-Original Message
Whenever our cats were put on Science Diet, they hated it, lost weight…because
they didn’t want to eat it. Wasted a lot food, a lot of money, and didn’t help
the cats. It’s disgusting!
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
When switching foods, it is very important to do it correctly. When cats
have been used to one food, and when suddenly exposed to a new food, their
enzymes are not used to it, often causing diarrhea and vomiting. You have to
use both old and new food, slowly increasing the proportions of the new
This may answer your concern:
http://www.wondercide.com/content/is-cedar-toxic-to-cats/
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]
Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the
winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze. Dry food should never be the ONLY
food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK. Unfortunately, many people feed
only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive
Oh, no - poor baby! I am so sorry!
The vet couldn't think of trying anything else?
I also found that when they don't respond to antibiotics, toxoplasmosis may
be present, and it took me over 6 months, 2 yrs ago, of medicating to
finally get rid of it - the kitten was negative on everything
You can always go to a large pet supply store and ask if they have any
torn/damaged bags of dry food - most will gladly donate them.
That's right, chip in is a GRRREAT idea, Beth!
Go to www.chipin.com - you'd be surprised what people collect money for, a
party, a present for someone, and
There must be someone who could take over feeding them - especially with
colder weather coming (don't know where you are)..they cannot be left
without food after relying on it for so long.
I have never liked TNR because there were never any people to take
responsibility. Since I do rescue and
Sounds bad – not sure that I would do extractions…the stomatitis is at the back
of the mouth up down. I can’t even guarantee that I could give Sox the pain
killers when needed – he is extremely hyper and sensitive, very scared of
strangers….poor cat! He’s pretty good with us now, but when I
I will, thank you!
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of tamara stickler
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis
Natalie,
This isn't holistic, but my
, and weeks of buprenex,
prednisone and clindamycin, but she's been off all meds for a couple of months
now and it seems that she really is OK now.
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis
I will, thank
Some vets even tell people to kill FIV+ kittensunless they were exposed
to FIV directly, they are never positive even with a FIV+ mother! Why are
some vets so damned stupid?
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Which test did he have?
My new email address is:atia@gmail.com
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens
My FeLV kitty had blood in his stools but he also had coccidia.
Lynda
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-Original Message-
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:11:54
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of McKenna's
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens
Tickles had what is called the IDEXX? test done on him. Does that sound
familiar to you, GRAS?
@LINDA, I have heard of coccidia, but what exactly
I believe that testing at such an early age can often come up false
positive. I would retest!
Isn't doing ELISA and IFA at the same time, on such a young kitten overkill?
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Liz Lee Morris
Sent:
Got, it, too!
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet
Me too!
From:
I would use whatever the vet gives you for the eye(s).In the 20 years of
rescuing cats, I have had and still do have several cats that have vision in
only one eye, bad eyes was left intact, and they're fine. They also had bad
infections that were not treated when they were kittens. We've had
In the 20 years of cat rescue, with so many FIV+ mother cats, not a single
kitten EVER was FIV+! And when and if tested, there was absolutely no sign of
it by age 3 months, although some vets say that it could be up to 6 months.
They shed the virus quite rapidly as their immune systems
Unfortunately, technically, the Manson creep didn't do the killing
himself...no excuse. They should stop putting people in prison for silly
little things like possession of grass - they become criminals while in
there. And then there are murderers, rapists, who serve less time than they
do if
I remember slightly, but don't recall if there was there a mother that was
tested? That should be enough, because if she is FeLV+, the kittens are
definitely positive.
If the kittens are positive again, and then you do the IFA, and it's
negative, it doesn't mean that they are negative, it only
I got this one, and yes, there was correspondence this week - but I can't
tell you if you're on the list or not - Natalie
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Catherine Caughie
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:44 PM
To:
Since we have cat condos in the garage, I leave it open when the weather is
nice, for airing out.
One night, after I closed the door, I noticed a huge “mother of all possums”,
in the garage near the cat condos. Didn’t want to budge. I coaxed him,
offered goodies, he just looked at me and
I don't know - but what helps one of my FIV+ cats who gets crystal, is
putting apple cider vinegar into the water - good quality, of course, and
start with a drop, slowly build it up to more to acclimate a cat to it. I
add ACV to my bottles of drinking water - makes the water taste so much
We built 4 cat condos in our large garage. They don't sit in cages - those
are small rooms with cubicles, shelves, scratch posts, etc. There's
full-spectrum lighting new cats, cats that need medications in their food
(or else others would eat it, or they recuperate from surgeries, dentals,
To everyone, including Charles, who still seems to be reading the mail:
This is my final comment on this topic, and if it offends some, ask me to
leave the group.
I'm sorry, whether the first note from Charles was someone's idea of a joke,
as suggested, or not, his second note certainly sounds
Chuck - in none of your writings did you ask on how to treat the FeLV+ cat
for the disease! This is the kind of group this is.
To give you a picture of what happens all over the US, multiply Edna's
numbers...you may get the piucture!
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
It is unconscionable to allow a FeLV+ cat outside, not only because she will
get pregnant - she will spread FeLV to all cats that mate with her, and the
cycle will continue.
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
Sent:
I am so sorry about Orlando!
Lorrie - Is he getting any medical support for his condition? When I had
FeLV+ cats, and still have 6 FIV+ cats, I gave/give them CoQ10 (50mg) daily,
and Nutramin* (higher than suggested dosage for sick cats), building up the
amount givenwhen I see that there's
I am so sorry! She knew she was in your good hands - may Mama rest in peace
and enjoy herself with her family and friends over the rainbow bridge..
I just lost a cat that was adopted 7 years ago; I was taking care of her for
the adopter - she stopped eating and was diagnosed with an extremely
Yes, even the smallest needles work, they just take a lot longer. Sometimes,
when you notice that the drip isn't fast enough, even though you've opened
it up, lift up the skin, or move the needle around. Often, there's a
kink/squeezed together on the tube where it was clamped over to shut down.
Yes, even the smallest needles work, they just take a lot longer. Sometimes,
when you notice that the drip isn't fast enough, even though you've opened
it up, lift up the skin, or move the needle around. Often, there's a
kink/squeezed together on the tube where it was clamped over to shut down.
When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don't help
people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not
mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people.
My question to them is, do you help people?, which often catches them
Maureen,
I never use those horse needles for cats; I prefer the 20x1, and often
use 18x1 as well - it may take a little bit longer, but goes in a lot
easier, especially for kittens. Some cats have tough skin, and others have
super soft skin and the needle just glides right in. Getting the
My vet routinely prescribes Cyproheptadine
.just ¼ of a pill induces
appetite very quickly! I can attest to that! Natalie
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of KG BarnCats
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 9:48 AM
To:
Got this - Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list again
Hey all,
Let me know
Thank you so much! FIV+ Sox is actually the first one I ever had to suffer
from stomatitis. I will definitely have him checked for bartonella - it's
great to have all these great thinking minds in one group! Natalie =^..^=
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
How sad! I am so sorry - it's bad enough to lose one at a time, but two..
Last month, I lost two cats, one day apart (one was expected, one was not).
Natalie
May I ask what Brando was getting for his stomatitis? One of our FIV+ cats
has stomatitis and gets injections of prednisone every
I've researched stomatitis, and it seems that there's really nothing other
steroids and the alternative of pulling ALL teeth, cleaning out really well,
and even then, no guarantees, especially in cats with immunodeficiencies
Thank you!
Natalie
-Original Message-
From:
Thank you! =^..^=
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:19 PM
To: feline leukemia list
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Brando and Luna
Sherry and SIDS family, Natalie, and all of us
One of our cats at about age 7 or 8, started having spots on his eye, and
they were moving around. Sometimes they look like a lot less, other times
more. Eye was checked, it was nothing to worry about and doesn't at all
interfere with his vision. He will be 17 yrs old in July. Spook's eyes are
Will you try the tonic and slave from the 2053 group? Natalie
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of pandie...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] update mssr.
Is it the only cat now or do you have other FeLV+ cats in the house?
If you keep kitten indoors, there's NO need to vaccinate, unless there are
FeLV+ cats - always vaccinate only according to a cat's lifestyle. The
vaccines themselves have been controversial and only 80% effective (as all
vaccines
Congratulations!
Just wash all the bedding, feeding bowls that are plastic (don't use them,
anyway because they are porous), get some new toys, and you're set! I
remember the days when it was a 6-month wait before one could introduce a
new FeLV- cat into a household that had a FeLV+ cat..Natalie
If I send a message that's too long, I get an e-mail saying that it needs to
be approvedbut it never does, so I just shorten it, and re-send it.
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Monday,
Last week or so I sent a couple that only had 1 or 2 sentences and it said
it was too long.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 12, 2012, at 7:13 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
If I send a message that's too long, I get an e-mail saying that it
needs to be approvedbut it never does, so I just
Yes, rescued/trapped stray cats often have it, and they seem to forever have
some kind of eye problems.not serious, but watery, goopy, etc.
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:13 PM
Has anyone noticed that we get double mailings?
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis
I have had a kitten with a
, at 2:16 PM, GRAS wrote:
I am so sorry about Ginger; every time I hear of a cat dying, it
hurts, whether it's someone else's or my own...and it happens so
often on this list!
No, getting another cat is not betrayal; I see it as a wonderful
tribute to the cat that died! There are so many out
during the season.
On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:03 AM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
wrote:
If the caregivers provide protection for them, even a styrofoam cooler
wll protect frm rain, snow and with a bit of straw, they can be warm.
GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
At least
I wonder what qualifies cases to be listed on the registry….it probably has to
be validated by an investigation, arrest – some are marked “alleged” and some
“convicted”…This site has other great info, the connection between animal abuse
and further violent behavior, etc.
The rescue community
. That's how these feral/hard
stray colonies get out of control. Managing these colonies means
responsible s/n, feeding and medical treatment when needed.
JMHO
Sharyl
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk
treatment when needed.
JMHO
Sharyl
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links
I know many people who do TNR and have dedicated volunteers taking care of
them, even
What is the maximum size this group handles right now?
It used to be 20KB, now I just saw a 30KB that came through. This is very
confusing. I have even tried sending something longer in sections, and it
didn't work.
Would you please change my e-mail address back to the original one:
I lost another one today - I am totally drained. Preston, who was blind and
declawed, found abandoned in September in a rural area in CT, has been with
us all this time, looking for a home. He finally had a home to go to
tomorrow. I had been treating him for CRF and while I was giving him fluids
I sent this before, but it was too large.
I lost another sweet cat today - I am totally drained. It hasn't been a good
week. Preston, who was blind and declawed, found abandoned in September in a
rural area in CT, has been with us all this time, looking for a home. He
finally had a home to go to
I am so sorry about Ginger; every time I hear of a cat dying, it hurts,
whether it's someone else's or my own...and it happens so often on this
list!
No, getting another cat is not betrayal; I see it as a wonderful tribute to
the cat that died! There are so many out there that are in desperate
iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
2010.
On Mar 10, 2012, at 11:16 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
I am so sorry about Ginger; every time I hear of a cat dying, it
hurts, whether it's someone else's or my own...and it happens so often
on this list!
No, getting
That's fantastic! You are really an example for others to follow!
Thank you on behalf of all the =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=..
Natalie =^..^= =^..^= etc.
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherry,
So sorry about S'Matter.
I lost a cat yesterday, had to have Quigley euthanized. NOT from FeLV, but
to a very severe kidney infection - he was over 16 yrs old, grey with the
most amazing emerald green eyes (left on our doorstep in a carrier years
ago).
Natalie
From:
not TNR. That's how these feral/hard stray
colonies get out of control. Managing these colonies means responsible s/n,
feeding and medical treatment when needed.
JMHO
Sharyl
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: Re
As pets have become more important to their owners, what the pets are fed
has become more important as well. Most pet owners are concerned about the
quality and nutrition level of the food they are feeding their furry family
members. There are now hundreds of pet foods available to the consumer.
! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FYI - pet food article
As pets have become more important to their owners, what the pets are fed
has become more important as well
At least the cat colonies don't have to freeze in the winter in FL like they
do elsewhere.
Most TNR groups that I know of in this area don't tests at all.
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012
More than 100 responders are assisting the ASPCA with the investigation,
including staff and volunteers from the University of Florida (Gainesville)
College of Veterinary Medicine, the Maples Center for Forensic Medicine and
the following organizations:
Atlanta Humane Society (Atlanta, GA)
Bay
Since Monday, February 26, the ASPCA's
http://www.aspca.org/fight-animal-cruelty/field-investigation-and-response-
team-members.aspx Field Investigations and Response (FIR) team has been in
northern Florida managing the removal of hundreds of cats from an
overwhelmed cat sanctuary known as
ASPCA removed 700 cats from Caboodle Ranch - I tried posting it here this
morning, even in three parts, it was still too large., and kept bouncing
back, saying it has to be reviewed.. If anyone would like to see it, let me
know and I will forward TO YOU. Natalie
From:
I know many people who do TNR and have dedicated volunteers taking care of
them, even trapping for vet visits. Personally, I don't like some of the
ways that TNR cats are provided or NOT provided for. Some groups spay cats
and release them almost immediately, even in freezing weather (when it is
I realize what PETA is trying to do with the propend legislation, but it
doesn't negate the conditions at Caboodle, nor how the creep took money for
personal use even though at the same time he was paying himself a hefty
salary! He may have started with good intentions, but obviously abandoned
My vet is and his assistant have become expert in dealing with feral cats
by using towels/blankets to wrap and rewrap as needed for examinations. I
have also learned this in dealing with feral cats. You could also get some
Bach Flower Remedy - RESCUE, use it in the cat's water, you can put it
: Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic but if anyone can help with info? fluid in
lungs
And maybe some spray catnip concentrate
On Mar 3, 2012, at 5:47 PM, GRAS wrote:
My vet is and his assistant have become expert in dealing
Maybe a better strategy could have been NOT to say anything, and then ZAP it
to him through the jury!?
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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 7:53 AM
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, but the hoarding mentality took over got out of hand.
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:28 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Caboodle Ranch - Another
You came to that conclusion only because it is usually the case under such
circumstances; Craig is different, he's just a creepy, old, despicable, and
selfish son-of-a-gun! That was my first thought, too, because on videos that
I've seen before, the place looked immaculate and the cats appeared
It's very sad and unfortunate when someone with really good intentions
allows things to go so wrong, doesn't ask for help. But, to be fair, maybe
help that was asked for but never materialized..I know how people can be.
This also gives other groups a bad name.
I have MANY cats, but if donations
Sadly, there may be some, but I have yet to come across a “rescuer/hoarder” in
the 20 years of being involved in cat rescue in Southern CT. There are
probably some hoarder types; a typical symptom would be someone who doesn’t
spay/neuter nor provides veterinary care….therefore, they may not be
When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how
anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially
when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no
matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really
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