Re: OT: Need feedback please - Wendy

2006-09-04 Thread catatonya
Hi Belinda, I like this version too. I don't have a problem with your old version, but I've had to learn over the years to treat the average idiot with kid gloves. (not real kid leather. no leather. lol)I have a couple of offerings for you to consider on this letter in red. First I would put

Re: OT: Need feedback please (soapbox)

2006-09-01 Thread Gina WN
Phaewryn and Everyone, What you say rings true for me. Yes, I think there is a definite lack of animal abuse and welfare education in the U.S.. I think we are in denial still, as a society; I know I have been over the years.I was wondering if there is an event or time you can pinpoint that

Re: OT: Need feedback please (soapbox)

2006-09-01 Thread Sheila208
Phaewryn, I agree with you completely. I really liked Belinda's first draft. I think the shock is just what people need to open there eyes and see the horrible cruelty that there careless indifference causes for these poor babies. Why sugar coat it .We all want to turn our heads when faced with

Re: OT: Need feedback please (soapbox)

2006-09-01 Thread TatorBunz
I'm with you on this! Totally agree! In a message dated 8/31/2006 8:15:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (climbing up onto big bargain size soapbox) I think a harsh mental picture is what more people need to have. If more people cringed, we might live in a world that was

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-31 Thread Marissa Johnson
I agree with Wendy. I think the second paragraph is very harsh. I don't think it's so much the content or even the specifics that make it harsh, I think it's more the approach...and the graphicness. Your approach almost makes it sound like they are wanting something like that to happen to the cat

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2006-08-31 Thread Kat
Belinda, I think the re-wording Marissa suggested is good - with only a minor adjustment. I would add if they haven't already died during the experimentation. to make it read... Unfortunately, there are many people in the world who would take advantage of a free pet and use it for all kinds of

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-31 Thread Marissa Johnson
I like that...it gives it a little more punch! Thanks Kat! :)MKat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda,I think the re-wording Marissa suggested is good - with only a minoradjustment. I would add "if they haven't already died during theexperimentation." to make it read...Unfortunately, there are

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2006-08-31 Thread wendy
Hey Belinda, I should have taken a little more time yesterday, other than saying to take the second paragraph out, to tell you that the rest of your letter was really good. I think the way that it jumps right into the worst case situations, and then describes them in detail really put me off. I

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2006-08-31 Thread Gina WN
Belinda, I went back and readyour original message and I dothinkwhatMarissa and Katsaid makes sense. The re-wording gets the information across in a less graphic way, but is still effective. Sometimes reallyintense information is too much for people to handle all at once and they shut down to

Re: OT: Need feedback please - Wendy

2006-08-31 Thread Belinda
Here is the revised version, thank you for your help!! Belinda here, I admin the ads, and there are no Free To Good Home ads allowed, none is the same as FREE. This is very dangerous for the cat, there are all kinds of lunatics out there. Some people obtain free cats to train pit bulls to

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2006-08-31 Thread Belinda
Hi MC, I think the one your talking about is the one Jim's friend Michelle Crean wrote, it is this one: http://www.parrett.net/animalaid/free.html I have a link to it on the page itself, the problem is those people don't bother to go to it or the instructions, or they read the instructions

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2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
this is the one i was actually thinking of: http://cats.about.com/cs/kittencare/a/freekittuns.htm On 8/31/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi MC, I think the one your talking about is the one Jim's friend Michelle Crean wrote, it is this one: http://www.parrett.net/animalaid/free.html I

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2006-08-31 Thread wendy
Hey Belinda, Your revised letter sounds good. I think you are fantastic doing all that you do to help these animals. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-31 Thread Belinda
Changed this paragraph a bit: Some people obtain free cats to train pit bulls to fight, and they are killed in a very violent and gruesome manner by these vicious animals. Then there are people who feed them to snakes as meals (some large exotic snakes require live food). There are crazy

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-31 Thread Marissa Johnson
I couldn't agree more! I love the new paragraph...I think it conveys what you want to without being quite so harsh. We're all lucky to have you advocating for our animals!!Mwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Belinda,Your revised letter sounds good. I think you arefantastic doing all that you

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2006-08-31 Thread Gina WN
Belinda,I hope you did not think I was trying to ask you to be politically correct. I wasn't. My main focus was from a psychological viewpoint of how messages are perceived by people. I so appreciate what you are doing to get the message out there. I heard you loud and clear reading the

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2006-08-31 Thread Belinda
OK, MC have added it to the page itself: http://adopt.bemikitties.com -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls

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2006-08-31 Thread Belinda
No Gina, I think it was my frustration with the political arena slipping out. I agree with most everything everyone pointed out, I don't want to scare anyone away, people need to know the facts. I know many people don't have a clue as to how awful animals get treated sometimes. I've been

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2006-08-31 Thread Evan Dee
Very nicely stated Belinda. Us two leggers can be a bit dense and sometimes a strong word is necessary to get through - I think you found a good balance. I too want to offer kudos for both your website and the wonderful things you do - you're a responsible caretaker for the companions we've

Re: OT: Need feedback please (soapbox)

2006-08-31 Thread felv
(climbing up onto big bargain size soapbox) I think a harsh mental picture is what more people need to have. If more people cringed, we might live in a world that was more apt to protect animals. The fact that anyone on this list wasn't aware of any of those issues in itself speaks for the

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-30 Thread Marylyn
pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Gina WN To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:51 AM Subject: Re: OT: Need feedback please There was nothing rude about

Re: Need feedback please

2006-08-30 Thread Belinda
Nope, be my guest. mind if I borrow it for my own use -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com

RE: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
lvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Need feedback please There is nothing wrong with your letter. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received th

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2006-08-30 Thread elizamaggie
Belinda, I think it's very telling that you have sent this letter out often and only received negative replies twice. It's very similar to twenty people telling you they liked your presentation and one person saying they didn't - you dismiss the twenty and dwell on the one (I do anyway). I work

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2006-08-30 Thread Belinda
I want to thank everyone for taking the time to let me know what you thought. I will leave my letter as it is, thanks!! PS. I did reply to him after his reply to me that I changed his ad without his permission so I could just remove it to (this was a subsequent reply to the one I sent in

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2006-08-30 Thread Nina
Okay, for what it's worth, here's my 2 cents... What Belinda is trying to convey with this letter needs to be said. I don't think the way she said it was rude, but it is a harsh light of reality that most people, (as Diane points out), are completely ignorant of. I think the fellow that wrote

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2006-08-30 Thread wendy
I think you should leave out the second paragraph. It's VERY harsh and will turn people off. Or at least tone it down a lot. :) Wendy --- Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Every once in a while I get people who post to the Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP and put free for the fee, it

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2006-08-30 Thread Belinda
Wendy, Unfortunately people need to know these things DO happen, most people have no idea that all of these things occur on a daily basis (I know this for a fact because I was one of them not too long ago). Candy coating or not talking about doesn't make it go away. I can't just omit

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2006-08-30 Thread wendy
Hey Belinda, I agree that people need to know that horrible things do happen, but I think you can say a lot without being specific. You don't want to turn people off to the service that you are offering them/their animals. I have some ideas for toning it down, but let me get back to you in the

OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread Belinda
Hi All, Every once in a while I get people who post to the Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP and put free for the fee, it clearly say's at the TOP of the page this is not allowed, so I send them a drafted letter which I'm copying below with the reply I got from the person I sent it to. Please tell me

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
i don't think it's rude at all. am thinking, tho, that some shelters DO let special-needs cats go for no fee, but that's AFTER they pass their adoption/application process. in those cases, it's to make room for more easily adoptable cats, while doing their best to make sure the cat gets a good

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2006-08-29 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Belinda I don't think that you were rude at all.Maybe they just don't like to be told the facts!! You did the right thing. SherryBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Every once in a while I get people who post to the Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP and put free for the fee, it clearly say's at the

Re: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread felv
I think it's perfect, mind if I borrow it for my own use? Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat

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2006-08-29 Thread Precious Pets, Almost Home
Dear Belinda: I personally do not think your letter was rude in anyway! You were sharing information that you knew. This individual obviously has some issues! I would encourage you to continue educating those individuals that are trying to help rehome cats that are inexperience at it. If