[Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty

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2011-08-11 Thread Terri Brown
I would say, check with your local Petsmart of Petco and ask the rescues if they have room for an abandoned, already spayed cat. If none of their fosters have room, perhaps they have a foster your own pet (FYOP) program, and you can find her a forever home. The rescue group I work with has

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2011-08-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
A little more info. She's in the trap, where the FF people said she should stay until morning which it is. She had a problem with her tail, so part of that had to be amputated. They said it went really well and she didn't bleed much which is good. They advised the bandage would just come off

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2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
That's sad - why would they want her to stay in the trap? That's no way to keep a cat that is friendly. Check with a species specific rescue - maybe they would take this poor cat. No, she cannot be just dumped out there again. A bathroom, garage, basement would be a better fate than that until

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2011-08-11 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Bonnie, I would take her to your place, feed her right away so she knows that is your intention. Also make sure she know your aunt's cat is there with you, she is and has been aware of that cat while she was at your aunts and it will give her some familiarity and may help keep her

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2011-08-11 Thread kathryn mundell
Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine)

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2011-08-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Natalie The folks at Forgotten Felines said to leave the cats in the trap overnight due to having had anesthetic. She has been real rummy and quiet. She let me put food in with her, but didn't eat it. Yes, it's time to get her out of there now that the sun is coming up. And thanks for your

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2011-08-11 Thread Belinda Sauro
Great idea! On 8/11/2011 6:19 AM, kathryn mundell wrote: Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide

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2011-08-11 Thread Beth
When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed around once freed. Beth  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! 

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2011-08-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Boy, I wish I could do this…but my aunt’s other cat, Princess (“Chirper” as I call her for her chirping meow) is in the spare room now. And the other cats go into the garage (their litter boxes are there and there is a cat door between house and attached garage). But good suggestion. It’s

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2011-08-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Beth, I think this is going to have to be the answer. Now the question…where to get the crate. Those darn things are expensive. I’m working on that now. I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to Forgotten Felines when finished. I can’t say enough good about

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2011-08-11 Thread Christiane Biagi
Not at my computer but there are sites that talk about rehoming ferals. Best I can rember is to somehow contain cat in garage or big pen for 2 or 3 weeks n when I let it loose, it knows that this is the place for food. Mayne try alley cat alleys. Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

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2011-08-11 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sometimes local shelter has xtras from people who dump animals. If u buy new, theres one site thay I got 42 midwest crate frim fir around 70. Will look up n send on to u Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Beth, I think this is going to have to

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2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
Is this a really feral cat? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Beth, I think

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2011-08-11 Thread Edna Taylor
Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
That’s a good question… She was “fearful and unfriendly” when she showed up. Ran, wouldn’t let anyone near her. One time my aunt caught her (after months of feeding) and I wanted to get her to the vet. Trying to put her in the carrying cage, she literally shredded my shirt! However, over

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2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
If a cat is to be released in a new area, she must be inside somewhere, for at least one month, then slowly introduced outside, in the cage or carrier, on a harness (if not feral), short periods, to longer periods progressively, otherwise the cat has no idea where she is, no sense of a familiar

[Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats

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2011-08-11 Thread Susan Hoffman
There's always the bathroom.  It's just for 2 or 3 weeks.   Over the years I have regretted the ones I did not rescue but have not really regretted the ones I did. --- On Thu, 8/11/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread Christiane Biagi
The place I bought the 42 crate: $77.95 and free shipping (Midwest Crate) http://www.petstreetmall.com/Midwest-I-1542DD-Double-Door-iCrate-Dog-Crate/7 853/2963/ I last used it for 2 young kitties who I'd been feeding outside who I knew wouldn't last the winter. Someone had lent me one of

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2011-08-11 Thread Heather
Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread kathryn mundell
Hey Bonnie - No apologies necessary!! I would crack open a window in the bathroom (if it has a window). If it doesn't have a window - try bringing in some plants/soil/etc (in a pot) from the outside. Once she has gotten more used to you - set up a large crate (covered with a tarp) that

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2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
I use the Midwest crates, but I use two (door-to-door), twistem tie together. I use one as living room and food, the other for litter box and open from the top to clean/feed. If a cat is really feral, I slide a cardboard between the two cages to open one or the other top safely. From:

[Felvtalk] FW: Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Folding-Crate-Cage-Kennel/dp/B004G4W2I4/ref=sr_1_6 ?ie=UTF8 http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Folding-Crate-Cage-Kennel/dp/B004G4W2I4/ref=sr_1_ 6?ie=UTF8qid=1313079277sr=8-6 qid=1313079277sr=8-6 look at this one for 41.99 Opens from top and has 2 doors, apparently. From:

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2011-08-11 Thread Christiane Biagi
I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters you have no idea how far animals wander. A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from its home about 10 miles away. Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays, bring them home, and then lose or dump them again-now even further from

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread Belinda Sauro
This is the same type of crate I used on my cross country trip with the kitties in the semi, I bought 4 of these, 2, 36 and 2, 42 sizes, only difference is mine have 3 doors (one on the side too). They are very nice, easy to fold and set up, On 8/11/2011 9:18 AM, Natalie wrote:

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I'll ask Forgotten Felines if they checked for a chip. Thanks! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share

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2011-08-11 Thread Susan Saunders
Have you tried posting to the Special Needs groups.   Susan From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a

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2011-08-11 Thread Lynda Wilson
I like the suggestion of finding a Himalayan rescue that could take her in. L - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Folks I'm sorry to be

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2011-08-11 Thread Heather
Yep my thoughts exactly, there just is no end to the weird situations that come up. Had one where the chip contact info was all outdated (phones didn't work, moved, etc.), kept doing internet searches Yahoo suggested a different spelling of the last name--name had been spelled incorrectly on the

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2011-08-11 Thread Edna Taylor
I just have to say that had I adopted out a cat to a friend and said friend dumped the cat and then showed no remorse for doing so, it would have taken me a nanosecond to drive to said friend's house and throat punched him/her. As I am fond of saying, don't let the tears fool ya, I'm a toof

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread MaiMaiPG
Can you put up a dog kennel with a topper? On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Folks I’m sorry to be monopolizing all this “air space” on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has

[Felvtalk] FW: Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
I had to erase most of the old stuff, to get this sent; new server accepts 30 KB (better than the last one, 20KB). From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:46 PM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Edna Taylor
Well, yes, there IS that. I would have gladly taken the cat back :) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:18:36 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma I had to erase most of the “old” stuff, to get this sent;

[Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Sherry DeHaan
My heart is heavy and hurting tonight,I had to let my beautiful Rafferty go to the bridge. Raff was my 1st Sids kid that I brought into my heart and home almost 5 years and 8 months ago. I brought him home just a few seconds from midnight NYE 2006. He chose me when I was talking to another cat

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Natalie
I am so sorry! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:08 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :( My heart is heavy and hurting tonight,I had

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Joslin Potter
I'm so sorry for your loss, my prayers are w you.   Joslin Zoey From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:08 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :( My heart is heavy and hurting tonight,I had to let my

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Terri Brown
Goodnight, sweet Rafferty... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaanmailto:sherryd...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Lynda Wilson
Oh Sherry, so sorry to hear of Rafferty. He sure was lucky to have you and I can tell the feeling is mutual. I'm glad you had him for the time that you did. RIP, Raff, until the two of you meet again at the Rainbow Bridge. Hugs~ Lynda - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Sara Kasteleyn
Sherry..how sad for you. We will burn a beautiful candle tonight to light Rafferty's way to the bridge. I am so sorry for your loss. Sara _ From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Thursday, August

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Beth
I know it is so hard to love them so much have to lose them. it sounds like you two had love at first sight. Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: My heart is heavy and hurting tonight,I had to let my beautiful Rafferty go to the bridge. Raff was my 1st Sids kid that I brought into my

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

2011-08-11 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
I'm so sorry, Sherry. I know Rafferty is plundering all the milk sources at the Bridge and bragging on how much he was loved. Hugs. Diane R. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011

Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

2011-08-11 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Bonnie, I would suggest going to the feral_cats Yahoogroup and reading the Files. You have to look a little, but there is good advice for dealing with all kinds of situations. You can join the group and just ask, of course, but they will respect you more if you look in the Files first. I'm not

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2011-08-11 Thread MaiMaiPG
On that, I have had a few ferals that were held inside after vet treatment for various reasons: weather (very hot or cold etc), dangers (size and age of cat and the presents of packs of dogs, hawks etc) healing time + adjust time (they were returning to their own group), and just because