Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI [more more]

2002-07-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:14 AM 7/17/02 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: The faint note is probably there, and it is most likely a sum tone, which only are audible in the proper key when the instruments are playing in tune - which is to say NOT in equal temperament as most synths and pianos. Getting the tuning

Re: [Finale] Help with using chord tool, jazz font.

2002-07-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 7:27 Uhr, Tammy Grimes wrote I am using the plain text option, so let's see if this comes out more readable. Perfect, thanks! Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread Jari Williamsson
Matthew Hindson writes: The good thing about libraries is that I can store elements in them for use in a couple of years time if needs be. If such information were to be stored only within documents, and then transferred to a new document, then I have to remember which documents they were

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 10:27 Uhr, Jari Williamsson wrote Matthew Hindson writes: The good thing about libraries is that I can store elements in them for use in a couple of years time if needs be. If such information were to be stored only within documents, and then transferred to a new document,

Re: [Finale] misplaced flag

2002-07-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
I don't know why this problem keeps popping up, but it does: Once again, the thirty-second note flags in a file I'm working with (FinMac 2K2, Engraver Font) are too close to the 16th-note flags. Could some kind soul who knows give me the correct number to enter in whatever DB to fix this? And why

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2003

2002-07-17 Thread David H. Bailey
I admit it isn't much of a bright spot, but at least since you are using the program professionally the upgrade is a tax-deduction so it isn't a total loss. I have been fortunate in that the OS that I use has remained consistently behind the major changes on the Windows side so I have missed

Re: [Finale] FinWin 2003

2002-07-17 Thread David H. Bailey
I've been using it since it was released and I don't see any reason not to upgrade. Especially if your current version is earlier than Fin2K. It has opened older files (I don't have any that go back before 3.5) with no problems and I haven't run into any bugs that would make me suggest

[Finale] Re: Finale digest, Vol 1 #210 - 61 msgs

2002-07-17 Thread Marcus Girvan
I knew there was something missing! Marcus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 02:39:01 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Finale digest, Vol 1 #210 - 61 msgs I half expect someone to complain that Finale can't do spreadsheets.

Re: New bug, was Re: [Finale] Bug in Speedy Entry (2002b)

2002-07-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 1:20 AM 07/17/02, Don Hart wrote: Here's how to create the bug: 1. Open a template with multiple systems on the same page and with spacing such as the above mentioned Piano Grand Staff and go to page view. 2. Move at least one measure to an adjacent system on the page. 3. Select the speedy

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 11:21 AM 07/17/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: There are still situations where libraries do a really good job: Imagine you change something of your engraving style, eg font for certain symbols, I believe you'll find that the Document Settings library includes your choices of *character* for any

Re: New bug, was Re: [Finale] Bug in Speedy Entry (2002b)

2002-07-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 14:19 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote Here's how to create the bug: 1. Open a template with multiple systems on the same page and with spacing such as the above mentioned Piano Grand Staff and go to page view. 2. Move at least one measure to an adjacent system on the page. 3.

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 14:19 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote There are still situations where libraries do a really good job: Imagine you change something of your engraving style, eg font for certain symbols, I believe you'll find that the Document Settings library includes your choices of *character* for

[Finale] My personal wish-list

2002-07-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Below is my Wish list as it is going to be sent to Coda, unless I have forgotten something. Johannes -- Bugs and problems to be fixed: -- - Fix grace note spacing to work (it never worked, so it's not really a bug) - Fix independent time sig

Re: [Finale] (Very OT) Searching for a font

2002-07-17 Thread Barbara Touburg
Thanks to everyone that has responded privately! I wrote: Dear collegues, I am searching for a font called Baker Signet, or one of its look-a-likes called Keene, Signature, Signatur Vario, or Signete. Can anyone help? Thanks! ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] percussion map

2002-07-17 Thread Andrew Stiller
CREATING A PERCUSSION MAP Thank you. That was very helpful! -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: Re: [Finale] FinMac 2003

2002-07-17 Thread NealGitt
Jerry: OK, one more time -- why do I not want to buy this version? John: Because Coda dropped the ball and it will not run on OS X. Me: That's OK with me. My computer (1999-era PowerBook G3) won't run (well) on OS X either! ng ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI - maybe too long

2002-07-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Jul 2002, at 15:54, Harold Steinhardt wrote: However, the best of midi playback still does not give you an honest representation of what real human beings, playing a real acoustic instruments will sound like. That is as true of playback from your fancy-schmancy professional sequencer

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Jul 2002, at 20:03, Matthew Hindson wrote: * more intelligent handling of accidentals within a single bar - e.g. if a note is enharmonically changed to F# from Gb within a bar, subsequent Gb/F#s within the bar should default to the F#. This came up yesterday or the day before in

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Jul 2002, at 8:30, Robert Patterson wrote: I would expand this request to disconnect the programming of metatools from the shift key and instead allow the (all the) shift keys to define additional metatools. If this were possible, I might (for ex.) use ctrl-p for ppp, shift-p for pp

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Jul 2002, at 17:37, David H. Bailey wrote: I am very happy for everybody who pretends to be deaf like Beethoven when they compose. I am not like that. I am not a Mozart. I can't conceive of scores complete in my head and write them down perfectly so I don't ever want to change a

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Jul 2002, at 10:18, Linda Worsley wrote: I love Finale, warts and all, and while I understand the many complaints, I sometimes want to go on the list and shout This is your mother speaking! Stop whining or I'll stop he car! Don't ANY of you remember what it was like to make scores

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-17 Thread Andrew Stiller
John Howell: Yeah, Wagner used bass clef, and it still confuses people. And Strauss, and Schoenberg, and Berg, and Webern, and Stravinsky... -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] misplaced flag

2002-07-17 Thread Andrew Stiller
You need to adjust your flag positioning values. Thank you! That saved me a lot of hair pulling. I did notice, though, that it is impossible to set a Secondary Group position that is correct for both upstem and downstem flags. I ended up choosing a compromise value (14 EVPU) that left the

Re: [Finale] misplaced flag

2002-07-17 Thread Andrew Stiller
I don't know why this problem keeps popping up, but it does: Once again, the thirty-second note flags in a file I'm working with (FinMac 2K2, Engraver Font) are too close to the 16th-note flags. Could some kind soul who knows give me the correct number to enter in whatever DB to fix this? And

[Finale] Re: Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-17 Thread Christopher Zello
Just for the record, the excerpt in particular which I was trying to input was from the Stravinsky Rite of Spring. So, I'm on the end of being a performer, where I sort out what a composer wanted, not composing something. I will say that the easiest way to write bass clarinet parts, which most

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-17 Thread Philip Aker
Harold Steinhardt wrote: If an arranger or a composer does not know what it will sound like BEFORE notating it, then they do not know their art/craft very well. If they don't already know what it will sound like, how do they determine what to write in the first place? Notating one's

Re: [Finale] My personal wish-list

2002-07-17 Thread Steven Powell
Two items you might want to include (I've been agitating Coda about these for awhile, but the number of people who write in makes a big difference): --Fix lyrics tool so that hyphenated words which cross systems have a hyphen on the bottom system. (Finale currently leaves blank space on the

Re: [Finale] My personal wish-list

2002-07-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 17:36 Uhr, Steven Powell wrote Two items you might want to include (I've been agitating Coda about these for awhile, but the number of people who write in makes a big difference): --Fix lyrics tool so that hyphenated words which cross systems have a hyphen on the bottom

Re: [Finale] TAN: Ascii codes

2002-07-17 Thread Robert Patterson
On Wed, 17 July 2002, David W. Fenton wrote If it's actually the ASCII code, then it wouldn't be possible. Eh? 'A' and 'a' and ctrl-a all have different, well-defined ascii codes between 0 and 127. This is computer text 101. No need to track shift states. The option and alt combinations are

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 14:21 Uhr, Jari Williamsson wrote Please take a look at: http://www.jwmusic.nu/forza/settingstransfer.html Do you still think that using Libraries is the easiest way? I just had another situation, where I think libraries work better than Forza: The project I am working on we

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread Linda Worsley
At 10:26 PM +0200 7/17/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Is there a way to change the position setting of all measure number regions in a file? Measure tool measure measure numbers edit regions position. Linda Worsley -- Hear the music at: http://www.ganymuse.com/

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-17 Thread Colin Broom
- Original Message - From: Harold Steinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If an arranger or a composer does not know what it will sound like BEFORE notating it, then they do not know their art/craft very well. There is so much wrong with this generalisation, I don't know where to begin. This

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread Linda Worsley
At 11:16 PM +0200 7/17/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.07.2002 22:57 Uhr, Linda Worsley wrote At 10:26 PM +0200 7/17/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Is there a way to change the position setting of all measure number regions in a file? Measure tool measure measure numbers edit regions

Re: New bug, was Re: [Finale] Bug in Speedy Entry (2002b)

2002-07-17 Thread Don Hart
on 7/17/02 7:10 AM, Johannes Gebauer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17.07.2002 14:19 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote Here's how to create the bug: 1. Open a template with multiple systems on the same page and with spacing such as the above mentioned Piano Grand Staff and go to page view. 2.

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.07.2002 23:29 Uhr, Linda Worsley wrote Is there a reason for so many regions if all the size/position/font/etc. of measure numbers is the same? (Knowing your level of expertise, I'm sure you have a VERY good reason, but I'm curious.) Each region needs to be numbered 1 to x. It's all

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread Linda Worsley
At 12:04 AM +0200 7/18/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: If there isn't a way to set the font and position of measure numbers for a whole piece this would be a good task for a plugin I guess. I am just surprised it doesn't exist yet. Or does it? OK, I see the problem. Yes, it would be a very good

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread Chuck Israels
If there isn't a way to set the font and position of measure numbers for a whole piece this would be a good task for a plugin I guess. I am just surprised it doesn't exist yet. Or does it? OK, I see the problem. Yes, it would be a very good thing! And if it does exist, a very good thing to

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI - maybe too long

2002-07-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Jul 2002, at 10:52, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 09:54 AM 7/17/02 -0400, you wrote: On 16 Jul 2002, at 15:54, Harold Steinhardt wrote: However, the best of midi playback still does not give you an honest representation of what real human beings, playing a real acoustic

Re: [Finale] TAN: Ascii codes

2002-07-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Jul 2002, at 13:33, Robert Patterson wrote: On Wed, 17 July 2002, David W. Fenton wrote If it's actually the ASCII code, then it wouldn't be possible. Eh? 'A' and 'a' and ctrl-a all have different, well-defined ascii codes between 0 and 127. This is computer text 101. No need to

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread Don Hart
on 7/17/02 5:41 PM, Linda Worsley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:04 AM +0200 7/18/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: If there isn't a way to set the font and position of measure numbers for a whole piece this would be a good task for a plugin I guess. I am just surprised it doesn't exist

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread John Bell
Linda Worsley wrote At 10:26 PM +0200 7/17/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Is there a way to change the position setting of all measure number regions in a file? Measure tool measure measure numbers edit regions position. Yeah, I know that, but I have about 15 regions in the file, is

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread Linda Worsley
At 3:17 AM +0100 7/18/02, John Bell wrote: Linda, there are all kinds of situations where you need many regions. And it is understandable that you may want to edit the size/position/font/etc of them all. Johannes' problem is one that I have encountered. I've done that, too. I just put a

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread Matthew Hindson
* more intelligent handling of accidentals within a single bar - e.g. if a note is enharmonically changed to F# from Gb within a bar, subsequent Gb/F#s within the bar should default to the F#. This came up yesterday or the day before in another discussion. Isn't it the case that Ctrl +

Re: [Finale] Re: Constitutional Monarchies [ot, Was: The Sword again]

2002-07-17 Thread Charles Small
John Bell wrote: OK, I must have missed the news on this one. But Queen Elizabeth II is *still* listed as chief of state. I got a minor surprise to read that Canada's chief of state is still HRH (represented by Governor General Adrienne Clarkson). Even more surprising might be to find

Re: New bug, was Re: [Finale] Bug in Speedy Entry (2002b)

2002-07-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 2:10 PM 07/17/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: He means using MassMover, select a measure in page view and move it to the next system using the cursor-down key. Aha, I get it now. I do use that function sometimes, if I make a layout adjustment after I've locked my systems. But I tend to think

Re: [Finale] Globally changing measure nos position

2002-07-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 12:04 AM 07/18/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: If there isn't a way to set the font and position of measure numbers for a whole piece this would be a good task for a plugin I guess. I am just surprised it doesn't exist yet. Or does it? Seems to me that staff names would be a good model for this.

Re: [Finale] My personal wish-list

2002-07-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 11:36 AM 07/17/02, Steven Powell wrote: --Fix lyrics tool so that hyphenated words which cross systems have a hyphen on the bottom system. (Finale currently leaves blank space on the bottom system--I've never seen published music in which this is acceptable) Oh yeah, I had completely

Re: [Finale] My Own Wishlist to Coda (Mac, quite long)

2002-07-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 2:10 PM 07/17/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Both. I just tried, changed the font for clefs, saved the doc options lib, undid the change of font, loaded the lib and there were my changed clefs. The document options lib actually includes several things that can be saved separately in other

Re: [Finale] misplaced flag

2002-07-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 10:18 AM 07/17/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: Thank you! That saved me a lot of hair pulling. I did notice, though, that it is impossible to set a Secondary Group position that is correct for both upstem and downstem flags. I ended up choosing a compromise value (14 EVPU) that left the downstem

Re: [Finale] Help with using chord tool, jazz font.

2002-07-17 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:27 PM -0700 7/16/02, Tammy Grimes wrote: Normally I use a lower case B to indicate flats in a chord symbol, for example DbMaj7 or Cm7b5 chords. However, I have noticed a peculiarity when working with the jazz font. When trying to enter a new chord suffix, it wants to use the lower case B

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI [more more]

2002-07-17 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:38 AM -0400 7/17/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 12:14 AM 7/17/02 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: The faint note is probably there, and it is most likely a sum tone, which only are audible in the proper key when the instruments are playing in tune - which is to say NOT in equal

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI - maybe too long

2002-07-17 Thread Charles Small
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Sure, live concerts are great for the tension of the imminent mistake (composer Daron Hagen believes it's only the possibility of calamity that keeps people going to opera and NASCAR races), the idiosyncratic interpretations and bizarre behavior,

Re: [Finale] RE: orchestral MIDI

2002-07-17 Thread Harold Steinhardt
Colin, I do admit my comment was a great generalization, that even I don't completely agree with. And this all started with with my opinion that Coda should spend most of their resources improving the notational problems that still exist rather than added midi capabilities. I can't write