[Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread John Howell
I passed the question on to the Bandchat list, asking what directors found actually printed in scores and parts. The following replies are instructive. *** A question has been raised on the Finale List regarding whether to notate an Eb contra-alto clarinet part in bass clef at

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
What is a contra-alto clarinet? Is it what we call a contrabass clarinet? All the best, Lawrence http://lawrenceyates.co.uk

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Phil Daley
At 10/14/2002 01:04 PM, John Howell wrote: When Eb Contra-Alto Clarinet parts are available with the score, they have always been (from my experience) published in transposed treble clef. Players only use tuba parts when they are not available. Yes, additionally, Bari-sax parts can be

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Phil Daley
At 10/14/2002 12:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a contra-alto clarinet? Is it what we call a contrabass clarinet? No. A Contra-alto is an octave below a alto clarinet. A Contra-bass is an octave below a bass clarinet. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:39 PM 10/14/02 -0400, Phil Daley wrote: At 10/14/2002 12:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a contra-alto clarinet? Is it what we call a contrabass clarinet? No. A Contra-alto is an octave below a alto clarinet. Also called Eb bass clarinet. Dennis

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Thanks for your replies, I know the two instruments (possibly erroneously) as a contrabass in Eb and contrabass in Bb. This may be a British thing, or may just be me being wrong! Thanks again, All the best, Lawrence http://lawrenceyates.co.uk

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:59 PM 10/14/02 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the two instruments (possibly erroneously) as a contrabass in Eb and contrabass in Bb. Here are the spoken names for the Eb/Bb clarinets as I learned them in the US: Eb Bb Eb alto Bb bass Eb bass Bb contrabass Eb contrabass To me,

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread David H. Bailey
There are two flavors of clarinets lower than the normal Bb bass clarinet, and their terminology seems to get somewhat hazy. One of them is pitched in Eb and sounds an octave lower than the Alto clarinet and the other is pitched in Bb and sounds an octave lower than the Bass clarinet. The Eb

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread David H. Bailey
John Howell wrote: Back to me. Could someone contact David and give him the subscription information? Since everything got screwed up in the changeover to Mailman, I don't trust myself to have accurate information. Thanks! John I already sent that information (I just copied and pasted

re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Henry Howey
This was the favorite type of contra clarinet of Mark Hindsley at the U of Illinois. He used them exclusively as a true bass to a section of b-flat and bass clarinets. If he could avoid them, he did not use E-flat or alto clarinet parts, preferring to use low register mezzo-soprano or bass

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread John Howell
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Here are the spoken names for the Eb/Bb clarinets as I learned them in the US: Eb Bb Eb alto Bb bass Eb bass Bb contrabass Eb contrabass Whoa!! The lowest clarinet I'm aware of is (to borrow tuba and organ terminology) the BBb contrabass, usually metal and folded up

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:33 PM 10/14/02 -0500, John Howell wrote: Are you saying there's an EEb contrabass even lower? Are you sure? Big, metal, heavy, and with its own floor peg. I finally saw one in real life at a concert at the Stedelijk in Amsterdam about 10 years ago -- it was the Louis Andriessen piece Hout,

Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Ken Durling
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:31:11 -0400, you wrote: Bass (in Bb or A, with or without extended range to written C below middle C) Ronald - Is it still possible to find a Bass in A? I remember performing the Schoenberg Suite and sure wishing I had one! Not sure how much other music there is

RE: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:31 PM 10/14/02 -0400, Ronald M. Krentzman wrote: As a professional clarinetist in a large regional orchestra for more than 16 years, I never have heard of an Eb Bass Clarinet. I'll take your correction. I learned of an Eb contrabass being part of the family, but never saw one. And after a

RE: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation

2002-10-14 Thread Ronald M. Krentzman
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Durling Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 7:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:31:11 -0400, you wrote: Bass (in Bb or A, with or without