[Fink-devel] status of imlib/gnome?

2003-01-27 Thread David R. Morrison
Hi guys. What is the current status of the imlib/libpng/gnome problem? I believe that Masanori has updated some (all?) gnome packages, but did they get versioned dependencies on things like libpng and imlib? We need a strategy to make sure that users have a smooth upgrade, and I'm not sure what

Re: [Fink-devel] FinkCommander

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
At 18:10 Uhr -0800 26.01.2003, Ben Hines wrote: Does anyone object to including FinkCommander on the next Fink .dmg? It is pretty mature these days. I am thinking it would be separate from the .pkg, perhaps in a FinkCommander folder with its own readme files and such. Sounds OK I guess. BTW

Re: [Fink-devel] downloading source via CVS

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
At 0:10 Uhr -0500 27.01.2003, Carsten wrote: Hi Charles, There's no built-in method in Fink but you can just put CVS commands in InstallScript. It would only be good for personal use, not really for an official fink package. I do this to build the latest FinkCommander and a couple other

Re: [Fink-devel] status of imlib/gnome?

2003-01-27 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Monday, Jan 27, 2003, at 06:37 US/Eastern, David R. Morrison wrote: 2. All windows appeared in the upper left corner over the gnome menu bar, so that the title-bar doesn't get drawn and the window can't be dragged. Well, it appears that problem 2 still exists. Since the most recent round of

Re: [Fink-devel] FinkCommander

2003-01-27 Thread David R. Morrison
Ben Hines and I have been working on improving the release process, at least from the technical point of view (creating the binary installer and so on). These improvements include a script Ben wrote to automate the creation of the binary installer, as well as various updates we have made to the

Re: [Fink-devel] FinkCommander

2003-01-27 Thread David
snip The scripts CVS module is, in my opinion, the best place to store checklists of any kind about the release process. agreed. In terms of timing of announements, though, we need to be careful. WIth this recent release, for example, we unfortunately kept finding little problems with the

[Fink-devel] force-depends

2003-01-27 Thread David R. Morrison
Hi. I've noticed an increasing trend on the fink-users and fink-beginners list to give advice of using dpkg -r --force-depends when dpkg conflicts are encountered, and I wonder if we can find something better to suggest to people. I'm concerned that the routine use of --force-depends will put a

[Fink-devel] documentation wishlist

2003-01-27 Thread David R. Morrison
Here's something which I wish we were documenting properly. Briefly, there are a handful of packages which exist in the stable tree, but which we do not distribute in binary form for licensing reasons. A current list of these can be found in the CVS module scripts, at scripts/bindist/excludes.

Re: [Fink-devel] documentation wishlist

2003-01-27 Thread Alexander Hansen
I can do it. Should it go in the FAQ (as a preemptive strike) or elsewhere? On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 10:07, David R. Morrison wrote: Here's something which I wish we were documenting properly. Briefly, there are a handful of packages which exist in the stable tree, but which we do not

Re: [Fink-devel] force-depends

2003-01-27 Thread Alexander Hansen
It may not work when virtual packages are involved. I just did a test to see what would happen if I wanted to remove my xfree86 installation: [ldx3:~] hansen% sudo apt-get remove --no-act xfree86-rootless-threaded Password: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might

[Fink-devel] XFree86 4.2.99.4 looking good

2003-01-27 Thread Benjamin Reed
(Torrey, I'm cc'ing fink-devel just so people know what's going on.) Folks, if you're interested in trying out the new XFree86 snapshot, I've got an info file in my experimental tree, and I can make .deb's available too if people want to help Torrey test. Note that I am *not* the XFree86

Re: [Fink-devel] documentation wishlist

2003-01-27 Thread David R. Morrison
I'm not sure where it should go. It's the sort of thing which we'd like a user to see when he or she is just starting. So perhaps it belongs in the user's guide? Or maybe we need a short document Getting Started with Fink or something like that... Well, it could go into the FAQ but the FAQ is

Re: [Fink-devel] documentation wishlist

2003-01-27 Thread Alexander Hansen
I kind of thought that, too. Probably the user's guide, at the end of the bindist section, would be best. If the question comes up enough, a one-liner in the FAQ pointing at the relevant section of the UG would probably be adequate. On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 11:29, David R. Morrison wrote: I'm not

Re: [Fink-devel] force-depends

2003-01-27 Thread Martin Costabel
On lundi, jan 27, 2003, at 16:30 Europe/Paris, Alexander Hansen wrote: It may not work when virtual packages are involved. I just did a test to see what would happen if I wanted to remove my xfree86 installation: [] On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 09:55, David R. Morrison wrote: Hi. I've noticed an

[Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
One of the last changes to speed up re-index causes a regression. Now if I enter e.g. fink list -o when my index is dirty, I get this: fink list -o Fink has detected that your package cache is out of date and needs an update, but does not have privileges to modify it. Please re-run fink as

Re: [Fink-devel] force-depends

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
At 19:29 Uhr +0100 27.01.2003, Martin Costabel wrote: On lundi, jan 27, 2003, at 16:30 Europe/Paris, Alexander Hansen wrote: It may not work when virtual packages are involved. I just did a test to see what would happen if I wanted to remove my xfree86 installation: [] On Mon, 2003-01-27 at

[Fink-devel] X11 Docs

2003-01-27 Thread Alexander Hansen
Should I add an item to the X11 Guid advising users to run Ben H's library fixer script for Apple X11? -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA

Re: [Fink-devel] X11 Docs

2003-01-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
I'm for it. I wish there was some other way to find out about it. I didn't notice it until I saw someone mention it on irc. On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Alexander Hansen wrote: Should I add an item to the X11 Guid advising users to run Ben H's library fixer script for Apple X11? -- Hisashi T

Re: [Fink-devel] X11 Docs

2003-01-27 Thread Alexander Hansen
It's the lead item on the fink news right now, but it's going to get buried soon. On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 15:58, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: I'm for it. I wish there was some other way to find out about it. I didn't notice it until I saw someone mention it on irc. On Mon, 27 Jan 2003,

Re: [Fink-devel] X11 Docs

2003-01-27 Thread Jeremy Erwin
It would be fine, if it worked-- all I get are Parentheses missing around my list at ./fixlib line 4. Useless use of a variable in void context at ./fixlib line 4. you must be root to run this![jeremy@callisto:~]$ sudo ./fixlib Parentheses missing around my list at ./fixlib line 4. Useless use of

Re: [Fink-devel] downloading source via CVS

2003-01-27 Thread Alexander Strange
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Max Horn wrote: To further clarify this, no package that does invoke CVS will be accepted into the official fink distro. Cheers, Max The 'wtf' package does this. --- This SF.NET email is

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Carsten
Hi Max, Yes I am seeing the same thing too. Agreed, fink should use the existing (dirty) index in this case. It does seem to do so when a package is specified (fink list zip or fink apropos zip for example). I believe I have seen this problem even before my last patch, but it certainly is

wtf-acronyms (was Re: [Fink-devel] downloading source via CVS)

2003-01-27 Thread Carsten Klapp
Hi, The separate wtf-acronyms file for the wtf package was still downloading via CVSWEB but I checked in a new version. It now downloads the tarball and just mentions the cvsweb url in DescUsage for people who really want the bleeding-edge acronyms list. ;) Carsten On Monday, January 27,

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 05:01 PM, Carsten wrote: Hi Max, Yes I am seeing the same thing too. Agreed, fink should use the existing (dirty) index in this case. It does seem to do so when a package is specified (fink list zip or fink apropos zip for example). I believe I have seen

Re: [Fink-devel] FinkCommander

2003-01-27 Thread Ben Hines
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 05:23 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: Ben Hines and I have been working on improving the release process, at least from the technical point of view (creating the binary installer and so on). These improvements include a script Ben wrote to automate I just found

[Fink-devel] install_name perl script

2003-01-27 Thread Ben Hines
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 01:22 PM, Jeremy Erwin wrote: Parentheses missing around my list at ./fixlib line 4. Useless use of a variable in void context at ./fixlib line 4. Is perl 5.8 stricter about this or something? I have: my $newlibrary, @liblist, $libdir = /usr/X11R6/lib; -Ben

[Fink-devel] Re: [ fink-Bugs-675815 ] indexing problem

2003-01-27 Thread Carsten Klapp
Hi All, I just checked in a quick fix. I haven't tested it extensively but it seems to work now, I appreciate testing and feedback (bad or good). If this new fix causes other problems I think it best to just undo my speedup patch for the time being. I am busy moving into a new home this

[Fink-devel] base packages

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
I just synced the base packages from the unstable tree into the stable tree. I also synced them into the fink CVS module, but don't have time to do a bootstrap right now. I'll do that ASAP (maybe tomorrow), but if anybody finds the time to try it, please do so. I hope I didn't break bootstrap,

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Max == Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max One of the last changes to speed up re-index causes a regression. Now Max if I enter e.g. fink list -o when my index is dirty, I get this: Max fink list -o What's fink list -o? It's not documented. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Justin Hallett
try fink list --help [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's fink list -o? It's not documented. -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Marketing -=[JFH] Blue Falls Manufacturing Ltd. Arctic Spas -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Justin == Justin Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Justin try fink list --help Ahh, another *undocumented* feature. Try finding *that* in either man fink or fink --help. It's not there. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Justin Hallett
if it's still around once I'm done with the cvs and mirror patches I'm working on I'll have a look at it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now only somebody has to do it :-) -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Marketing -=[JFH] Blue Falls Manufacturing Ltd. Arctic Spas -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Ben Hines
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 04:20 PM, Max Horn wrote: At 15:53 Uhr -0800 27.01.2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 02:30 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Justin == Justin Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Justin try fink list --help Ahh, another *undocumented*

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Ben == Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben The comments discuss the issue of it not being documented, i think. Ben In any case, it was a pointer at the tracker, which is the proper Ben place to comment that Try finding *that* in either man fink or Ben fink --help. It's not there.. Saying

[Fink-devel] Problems compiling tcptraceroute 1.2/1.4

2003-01-27 Thread Jeremy Higgs
Hi everyone, I've received some reports that tcptraceroute (which depends on libnet libpcap) isn't working, getting the following error, which I can confirm occurs: make tcptraceroute CFLAGS=-I/sw/include gcc -I/sw/include `libnet-config --defines` \ -o tcptraceroute tcptraceroute.c \

Re: [Fink-devel] Problems compiling tcptraceroute 1.2/1.4

2003-01-27 Thread Carsten Klapp
Hi, My guess is the file it is looking for would be /sw/lib/include/libnet/ip.h, this follows the pattern I've seen in other programs which define constants with underscores in the middle. So you might have to play with CFLAGS a bit: SetCFLAGS: -I/%p/lib/libnet (Is this an autoconf/automake

Re: [Fink-devel] Problems compiling tcptraceroute 1.2/1.4

2003-01-27 Thread Carsten Klapp
Hi Jeremy, Nevermind my previous answer... I just noticed /sw/include/libnet/libnet-headers.h declares specifically LIBNET_IPV4_H and LIBNET_ICMPV4_H instead of LIBNET_IP_H and LIBNET_ICMP_H. Try patching in this at some point in the code after the #include libnet/libnet-headers.h line:

Re: [Fink-devel] install_name perl script

2003-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Ben == Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 01:22 PM, Jeremy Erwin wrote: Parentheses missing around my list at ./fixlib line 4. Useless use of a variable in void context at ./fixlib line 4. Ben Is perl 5.8 stricter about this or something? Ben I have:

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Ben Hines
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 06:36 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Ben == Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben The comments discuss the issue of it not being documented, i think. Ben In any case, it was a pointer at the tracker, which is the proper Ben place to comment that Try finding

Re: [Fink-devel] install_name perl script

2003-01-27 Thread Ben Hines
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 06:41 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: my $newlibrary; my @liblist; my $libdir = /usr/X11R6/lib; then you'll have to say that. No simple addition of parens will help you. What you're saying now is the same as leaving the second and third my off, and

Re: [Fink-devel] install_name perl script

2003-01-27 Thread Jeremy Erwin
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 10:09 PM, Ben Hines wrote: On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 06:41 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: my $newlibrary; my @liblist; my $libdir = /usr/X11R6/lib; then you'll have to say that. No simple addition of parens will help you. What you're