Re: [Fink-users] Intel support and universal binaries...

2006-05-29 Thread Chuck Robey
Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

On 3/9/06, Felix Ingrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I must have missed the discussion on this, but is fink ready for
Intel based machine? are the current binaries release universal
already? or everything relies on Rosetta?

Thanks,

--
  Felix





Currently the Fink project plans NOT to make universal binaries.  A
major reason for this is that our Debian toolset isn't really geared
to handle multiple-architecture builds.
  

I applaud this decision, even if you aren't doing it for my own 
reasons.  Personally, I feel that universal binaries benefit a vendor 
enormously, by reducing the number of distributions that need to be 
made, but since most users do not change their setup so oftten that they 
need the flexibility offered by the universal binaries, and they take up 
a lot more disk space, and I would expect, they probably load somewhat 
more slowly (merely a guess on this, but the larger disk size makes me 
wonder).

So, if I have an option, I will never choose to support universal 
binaries.  Obviously, I won't always get this choice, but when I do, I 
choose non-universal.  What's the name of a non-universal?

--
Alexander K. Hansen
Fink Documenter
[Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment
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Re: [Fink-users] Intel support and universal binaries...

2006-03-09 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On 3/9/06, Felix Ingrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I must have missed the discussion on this, but is fink ready for
 Intel based machine? are the current binaries release universal
 already? or everything relies on Rosetta?

 Thanks,

 --
   Felix



Currently the Fink project plans NOT to make universal binaries.  A
major reason for this is that our Debian toolset isn't really geared
to handle multiple-architecture builds.

--
Alexander K. Hansen
Fink Documenter
[Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment
http://psfcwww2.psfc.mit.edu/ldx/


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Re: [Fink-users] Intel support and universal binaries...

2006-03-09 Thread Matt Kozak
Excuse my potential misunderstanding, but does this mean there might be a 
fink-intel and a separate fink-ppc release, or just that fink may have 
more source trees (ppc vs. intel), as opposed to just those trees that are 
differentiated by Mac OS X version(s) and stability?


Perhaps it simply means that MacIntel users will have to use only source 
packages as opposed to any binary packages, but still use the relevant 
tree for their Mac OS X version?


I think I'm confusing myself even more now!
;^)

Thanks,
-Matt


On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:


On 3/9/06, Felix Ingrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I must have missed the discussion on this, but is fink ready for
Intel based machine? are the current binaries release universal
already? or everything relies on Rosetta?

Thanks,

--
  Felix




Currently the Fink project plans NOT to make universal binaries.  A
major reason for this is that our Debian toolset isn't really geared
to handle multiple-architecture builds.

--
Alexander K. Hansen
Fink Documenter
[Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment
http://psfcwww2.psfc.mit.edu/ldx/


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Re: [Fink-users] Intel support and universal binaries...

2006-03-09 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On 3/9/06, Matt Kozak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Excuse my potential misunderstanding, but does this mean there might be a
 fink-intel and a separate fink-ppc release, or just that fink may have
 more source trees (ppc vs. intel), as opposed to just those trees that are
 differentiated by Mac OS X version(s) and stability?

 Perhaps it simply means that MacIntel users will have to use only source
 packages as opposed to any binary packages, but still use the relevant
 tree for their Mac OS X version?

 I think I'm confusing myself even more now!
 ;^)

 Thanks,
 -Matt



There will be Fink-intel and Fink-PPC binary distributions.  The
source trees will be more or less held in common, but packages that
build on one platform but not the other are now flagged (e.g.
Architecture: ppc).

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Fink Documenter
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Re: [Fink-users] Intel support and universal binaries...

2006-03-09 Thread Chris Zubrzycki

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On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:


On 3/9/06, Matt Kozak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excuse my potential misunderstanding, but does this mean there  
might be a
fink-intel and a separate fink-ppc release, or just that fink may  
have
more source trees (ppc vs. intel), as opposed to just those trees  
that are

differentiated by Mac OS X version(s) and stability?

Perhaps it simply means that MacIntel users will have to use only  
source
packages as opposed to any binary packages, but still use the  
relevant

tree for their Mac OS X version?


Our tools already have a way to work between multiple archs,  you  
won't be able to install debs made on a ppc mac on an intel one,  
that's all.


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