Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Greg Jacobs
Prof. Olson writes: The reason is simple: The persistent and always tense debate over gun rights has thinly veiled underlying racial and socio-political struggles that are as old as the Union itself. I might be opening a can of worms but here goes. While I admit to being something less

Re: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Joseph E. Olson
Greg, Can't you read e-mail properly? You've got it ALL wrong. If you can't be careful, don't say anything. One has to be careful in copying things into replies/forwards. CONTRARY TO APPEARANCES OF THIS E-MAIL, I DID NOT write THE QUOTED LANGUAGE. Anyone who has been reading my

RE: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Roland Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:18 PM To: Greg Jacobs; Firearms Reg Subject: Re: Heller case's resultant racial issues

RE: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Joseph E. Olson
According to police reports quoted in the Star-Tribune, 27 or 28 out of the 30 homicides in Minneapolis so far this year are gang related. In Minneapolis, gang makeup reflects the lower class population. Mostly black, some asian, and few hispanic. Not a study, but facts nevertheless. I

Re: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread C. D. Tavares
On Apr 27, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Volokh, Eugene wrote: I certainly agree that much gun violence is committed by criminal gangs that tend to be organized along ethnic minority lines -- but is there some study that reports that *most* gun violence is so committed? The most interesting thing

RE: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Volokh, Eugene
To: List Firearms Reg Subject: RE: Heller case's resultant racial issues? According to police reports quoted in the Star-Tribune, 27 or 28 out of the 30 homicides in Minneapolis so far this year are gang related. In Minneapolis, gang makeup reflects the lower

Re: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Philip F. Lee
Although responding to Greg's message, I will have a comment about one of Prof. Olson's messages too. I don't like to think of myself as belonging to ancient history, yet my life spans a time when whites tried to keep guns away from blacks. In my childhood home town, a black man (an upstanding

Re: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Greg Jacobs
I cannot tell and I apologize. I have re-read that message and it simply did not come in correctly. I have been properly chastised and I'll try to get underneath the text from now on to see what the origins are. ***GRJ*** At 04:33 PM 4/27/2008, Joseph E. Olson wrote: Greg, Can't you read

Re: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Joseph E. Olson
You are correct, Hamline University's IT Department still rides horses to work. They like GW (maybe because it's already been paid for?) and won't switch. I didn't even know there was a standard using . Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/27/08 7:18 PM ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) I

Re: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Joseph E. Olson
Oh God, I going to have to start writing statements on this list with a dozen qualifiers per sentence. Unfortunately, another defect of e-mail is it's inability to convey sarcasm. While I don't subscribe to any position just because it is P. C., I don't want to spend the next 10 years

Re: Heller case's resultant racial issues?

2008-04-27 Thread Philip F. Lee
Remember, science has been the subject of ignorant actions by bigots for centuries -- for as long as recorded history. And scientists have had to worry about their professional lives, sometimes their physical lives, for as long as we can point to the existence of science. Copernicus provides an