Legal straw man (Lott, Edward))

2013-05-10 Thread Ed. Lott
Question ( 11 a.) on ATF Form 4473 (Firearms Transaction Record Part I - Over-the-Counter) says: Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form? (YES or NO) Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you

Re: Legal straw man (Lott, Edward))

2013-05-10 Thread Olson, Joseph E.
In the example we have been using, the financier is *NEVER* the actual transferee/buyer because HE never takes possession of the gun or fills out a Form 4473. Only the intended transferee does that. The gun goes from selling transferor's/owner (to seller's FFL, if one is used) to transferee's

Legal straw man

2013-05-08 Thread Greg Jacobs
Since Tom is a legal purchaser in his state, this is an example of a perfectly legal straw man purchase. So there is anti-gun Big Lie number #3, that all straw man purchases are illegal. Methinks there is an opportunity here for an OAQ (occasionally asked questions, or oak): anti-gun Big Lies

Re: Legal straw man

2013-05-08 Thread Olson, Joseph E.
, absent fraud, of the transaction. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Greg Jacobs grjtw...@earthlink.net wrote: Since Tom is a legal purchaser in his state, this is an example of a perfectly legal straw man purchase. So there is anti-gun Big Lie number #3, that all straw man purchases

Re: Legal straw man

2013-05-08 Thread Greg Jacobs
PM To: Greg Jacobs <grjtw...@earthlink.net> Cc: "Firearms Reg, List" <firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu> Subject: Re: Legal straw man *What you describe is NOT a "strawman" purchase at all as top anyone.*The strawman refers to using another person to *deceive* the dealer and