Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-18 Thread spiff
Again, I have to state, this is an issue that folks have to learn to take as personable responsibility. You open the door to *your* home upon connection. You make the choice, no one makes the choice for you. I see personal responsibility here not at all different then when one involving

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-15 Thread Dana Nowell
. ISPs need to get serious about security. - - Original Message - From: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic The really annoying thing is the Cable Companies consistently

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-15 Thread Sebastien Corriveau
From: Kevin Johnston I'd love to throw up a firewall between my PC and the Cable modem but it rubs me the wrong way when they expect me to pay for an extra computer on the wire. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Time-Warner's not a real service provider anyway. A real provider would be very

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-15 Thread Andy Maslar
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:41:05 + ( ) From: Sol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic still a lock but it's one of very poor quality... why not a proper linux box? Linux? You'd be better off with OpenBSD. -Andy - [To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-15 Thread Bob Dolliver
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 4:31 PM To: Mullen, Patrick; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic But think about all of those lusers that keep their credit card info in Quicken or in Notepad. Th

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-15 Thread Paul D. Robertson
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Bob Dolliver wrote: traditional point to point links. In addition many cable organizations are combining VPNs with broadband to insure strong encryption and authentication from end to end. The problem is that encryption isn't a magic bullet. VPNs are flawed for such

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Kevin Johnston
, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic The really annoying thing is the Cable Companies consistently claim they do block this traffic. My experience is that you can get it blocked on your local segment by calling them up and complaining. Pretty sad. -Original Message

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Ron DuFresne
of states AND countries. ISPs need to get serious about security. - Original Message - From: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic The really annoying thing

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Jason Leonard (Fuzz)
Jason, do you really want to suggest that Microsnot get involved with Security hardware God help us all... No sir, no siree. I was just thinking a built-in no-brainer option to lock down their stack the way probably 90%+ of their consumer customers want it done. Preferable to whiny

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Eric
Ron DuFresne wrote: I disagree it is the responsibility only of the ISP. It is a matter of *personal* responsibility, unless specifically outsourced. I'd say it is both. What is clear is that the ISP has the ability to do certain things very easily and inexpensively that may be quite

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Sol
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Jason Leonard (Fuzz) wrote: Eric wrote: Of course, what I really don't understand is why the cable company doesn't block the netbios traffic wherever and whenever possible. Bite yo' tongue! The last thing we need is some big corporation restricting our access to

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Mullen, Patrick
Just to add my $0.02, which if I'm lucky is worth half that, the cable companies are wise to not put a firewall between you and the net. Once they have done that, they are legally responsible for your safety, and they also don't have to run tech support when the latest streaming application

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread rwalker
0/14/99 07:08:44 AM To: "Sweeney, Patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: "'The Firewalls List'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Rob Walker/SV/AUS/HARCOURT) Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic I agree with you. Time Warner (RoadRunner cable modems) told me there is absolutely

Re: Unknown internet traffic (fwd)

1999-10-14 Thread Sean Boyle
security. - Original Message - From: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic The really annoying thing is the Cable Companies consistently claim they do block

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Kevin Johnston
, 1999 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic Time-Warner's not a real service provider anyway. A real provider would be very concerned about the security of their customers. If you have the money to through at it, you could set up a firewall between the cable modem and your network

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread rwalker
That's why you get a proxy firewall. Do NAT and you can run any amount of computers you want behind it. "Kevin Johnston" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/14/99 12:14:13 PM To: Rob Walker/SV/AUS/HARCOURT@HARCOURT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic I'd lov

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Kevin Johnston
(and gals)... - Original Message - From: Mullen, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ron DuFresne' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kevin Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:34 PM Subject: RE: Unknown

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Gary Flynn
"Mullen, Patrick" wrote: On the plus side, unless you download a trojan, the only vulnerability most Windows users have is the plethora of DoS attacks out there. Not that there is anything that a simple firewall could do for the problem but Windows has a lot more than DOS vulnerabilities:

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Gary Flynn
Eric wrote: What is clear is that the ISP has the ability to do certain things very easily and inexpensively that may be quite difficult for most customers to do. For example, using access-lists to deny non-established access to certain ports frequently scanned by script kiddies is quite

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread David Lang
Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic I'd love to throw up a firewall between my PC and the Cable modem but it rubs me the wrong way when they expect me to pay for an extra computer on the wire. - Original Message

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread David Lang
ot; does nothing to protect me against other cablemodem customers anyway. David Lang On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:24:10 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kevin Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic Ti

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread rwalker
Patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'The Firewalls List'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Rob Walker/SV/AUS/HARCOURT) Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic Just to add my $0.02, which if I'm lucky is worth half that, the cable companies are wise to not put a firewall between you and the net. On

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Eric
I wrote: On at least some Cisco routers, you can even associate access-lists with users on a user by user basis. It would be quite easy for ISPs using those routers to apply access-lists to those customers interested in greater security. I may be wrong about this point. The access-lists

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Gary Flynn
et serious about security. - Original Message - From: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic The really annoying thing is the Cable Companies consiste

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Eric
Sol wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Jason Leonard (Fuzz) wrote: Eric wrote: Of course, what I really don't understand is why the cable company doesn't block the netbios traffic wherever and whenever possible. Bite yo' tongue! The last thing we need is some big corporation

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-14 Thread Ron DuFresne
TED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:34 PM Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic Just to add my $0.02, which if I'm lucky is worth half that, the cable companies are wise to not put a firewall between you and the net. Once they have done that, they are legally responsible for y

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-13 Thread Eric
Jeff Younker wrote: He's receiving ICMP 'administratively prohibited' messages in response to traffic from his machine. These ICMP messages could be generated by the netbios services encapsulated in TCP/IP. (Ports 137, 138, and 139 as I recall.) I thought that disabling the bindings on

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-13 Thread Sweeney, Patrick
, October 13, 1999 10:51 AM To: Jeff Younker Cc: 'Carric Dooley'; 'The Firewalls List' Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-13 Thread Andrew Bastien
on the VPN using the cable modem's IP address. -Original Message- From: Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 13, 1999 10:50 To: Jeff Younker Cc: 'Carric Dooley'; 'The Firewalls List' Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic Jeff Younker wrote: He's receiving ICMP 'administratively

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-13 Thread Jason Leonard (Fuzz)
Eric wrote: Of course, what I really don't understand is why the cable company doesn't block the netbios traffic wherever and whenever possible. Bite yo' tongue! The last thing we need is some big corporation restricting our access to the Internet. Or, for that matter, anyone restricting

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-12 Thread Jeff Younker
Netbios, Browser elections, etc? Or am I just out a limb here with no clue as to what I am saying? - Jeff Younker - These are my opinions, not MDL's - -Original Message- From: Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:37 PM To:

Re: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-12 Thread Mikael Olsson
Some uneducated guesses here... I've seen NT machines doing this before, maybe the most oddball case I've seen is dual-homed MS Proxy machines trying to connect to the Internet from their internal NIC - which oddly enough gets routed to the outside. My initial thought was that if the public

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-12 Thread Carric Dooley
Not if its ICMP. Carric Dooley CNE COM2:Interactive Media http://www.com2usa.com "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. " - Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Jeff Younker wrote: Netbios, Browser

RE: Unknown internet traffic

1999-10-12 Thread Jeff Younker
Message- From: Carric Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 5:03 AM To: Jeff Younker Cc: 'Eric'; 'The Firewalls List' Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic Not if its ICMP. - [To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe firewalls" i