Again, I have to state, this is an issue that folks have to learn to take
as personable responsibility. You open the door to *your* home upon
connection. You make the choice, no one makes the choice for you. I see
personal responsibility here not at all different then when one involving
. ISPs need to get serious about
security.
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From: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
The really annoying thing is the Cable Companies consistently
From: Kevin Johnston
I'd love to throw up a firewall between my PC and the Cable modem but it
rubs me the wrong way
when they expect me to pay for an extra computer on the wire.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Time-Warner's not a real service provider anyway. A real provider would
be very
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:41:05 + ( )
From: Sol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic
still a lock but it's one of very poor quality... why not a proper linux
box?
Linux? You'd be better off with OpenBSD.
-Andy
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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 4:31 PM
To: Mullen, Patrick; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
But think about all of those lusers that keep their credit card info in
Quicken
or in Notepad. Th
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Bob Dolliver wrote:
traditional point to point links. In addition many cable organizations are
combining VPNs with broadband to insure strong encryption and authentication
from end to end.
The problem is that encryption isn't a magic bullet. VPNs are flawed for
such
, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
The really annoying thing is the Cable Companies consistently claim they
do
block this traffic.
My experience is that you can get it blocked on your local segment by
calling them up and complaining.
Pretty sad.
-Original Message
of states AND countries. ISPs need to get serious about
security.
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From: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
The really annoying thing
Jason, do you really want to suggest that Microsnot get involved with
Security hardware God help us all...
No sir, no siree. I was just thinking a built-in no-brainer option to lock
down their stack the way probably 90%+ of their consumer customers want it
done. Preferable to whiny
Ron DuFresne wrote:
I disagree it is the responsibility only of the ISP. It is a matter of
*personal* responsibility, unless specifically outsourced.
I'd say it is both.
What is clear is that the ISP has the ability to do certain things very
easily and inexpensively that may be quite
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Jason Leonard (Fuzz) wrote:
Eric wrote:
Of course, what I really don't understand is why the cable company
doesn't block the netbios traffic wherever and whenever possible.
Bite yo' tongue! The last thing we need is some big corporation restricting
our access to
Just to add my $0.02, which if I'm lucky is worth half
that, the cable companies are wise to not put a firewall
between you and the net. Once they have done that, they
are legally responsible for your safety, and they also
don't have to run tech support when the latest streaming
application
0/14/99 07:08:44 AM
To: "Sweeney, Patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: "'The Firewalls List'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Rob
Walker/SV/AUS/HARCOURT)
Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic
I agree with you. Time Warner (RoadRunner cable modems) told me there is
absolutely
security.
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From: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
The really annoying thing is the Cable Companies consistently claim they
do
block
, 1999 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic
Time-Warner's not a real service provider anyway. A real provider would
be very
concerned about the security of their customers.
If you have the money to through at it, you could set up a firewall
between the
cable modem and your network
That's why you get a proxy firewall. Do NAT and you can run any amount of
computers you want behind it.
"Kevin Johnston" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/14/99 12:14:13 PM
To: Rob Walker/SV/AUS/HARCOURT@HARCOURT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic
I'd lov
(and gals)...
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From: Mullen, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Ron DuFresne' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kevin Johnston
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Firewalls List'
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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Unknown
"Mullen, Patrick" wrote:
On the plus side, unless you download
a trojan, the only vulnerability most Windows users
have is the plethora of DoS attacks out there.
Not that there is anything that a simple firewall
could do for the problem but Windows has a lot
more than DOS vulnerabilities:
Eric wrote:
What is clear is that the ISP has the ability to do certain things very
easily and inexpensively that may be quite difficult for most customers
to do. For example, using access-lists to deny non-established
access to certain ports frequently scanned by script kiddies is quite
Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic
I'd love to throw up a firewall between my PC and the Cable modem but it
rubs me the wrong way
when they expect me to pay for an extra computer on the wire.
- Original Message
ot; does nothing to protect
me against other cablemodem customers anyway.
David Lang
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:24:10 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kevin Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic
Ti
Patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'The Firewalls List'"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Rob Walker/SV/AUS/HARCOURT)
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
Just to add my $0.02, which if I'm lucky is worth half
that, the cable companies are wise to not put a firewall
between you and the net. On
I wrote:
On at least some Cisco routers, you can even associate access-lists with
users on a user by user basis. It would be quite easy for ISPs using
those routers to apply access-lists to those customers interested in
greater security.
I may be wrong about this point. The access-lists
et serious about
security.
- Original Message -
From: Sweeney, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'The Firewalls List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
The really annoying thing is the Cable Companies consiste
Sol wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Jason Leonard (Fuzz) wrote:
Eric wrote:
Of course, what I really don't understand is why the cable company
doesn't block the netbios traffic wherever and whenever possible.
Bite yo' tongue! The last thing we need is some big corporation
TED]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
Just to add my $0.02, which if I'm lucky is worth half
that, the cable companies are wise to not put a firewall
between you and the net. Once they have done that, they
are legally responsible for y
Jeff Younker wrote:
He's receiving ICMP 'administratively prohibited' messages in response to
traffic from his machine. These ICMP messages could be generated by the
netbios services encapsulated in TCP/IP. (Ports 137, 138, and 139 as I
recall.)
I thought that disabling the bindings on
, October 13, 1999 10:51 AM
To: Jeff Younker
Cc: 'Carric Dooley'; 'The Firewalls List'
Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic
on
the VPN using the cable modem's IP address.
-Original Message-
From: Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: October 13, 1999 10:50
To: Jeff Younker
Cc: 'Carric Dooley'; 'The Firewalls List'
Subject: Re: Unknown internet traffic
Jeff Younker wrote:
He's receiving ICMP 'administratively
Eric wrote:
Of course, what I really don't understand is why the cable company
doesn't block the netbios traffic wherever and whenever possible.
Bite yo' tongue! The last thing we need is some big corporation restricting
our access to the Internet. Or, for that matter, anyone restricting
Netbios, Browser elections, etc? Or am I just out a limb here with no clue
as to what I am saying?
- Jeff Younker - These are my opinions, not MDL's -
-Original Message-
From: Eric [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:37 PM
To:
Some uneducated guesses here...
I've seen NT machines doing this before, maybe the most oddball case
I've seen is dual-homed MS Proxy machines trying to connect to
the Internet from their internal NIC - which oddly enough gets routed
to the outside.
My initial thought was that if the public
Not if its ICMP.
Carric Dooley CNE
COM2:Interactive Media
http://www.com2usa.com
"In theory, there is no difference between theory
and practice. But, in practice, there is. "
- Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Jeff Younker wrote:
Netbios, Browser
Message-
From: Carric Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 5:03 AM
To: Jeff Younker
Cc: 'Eric'; 'The Firewalls List'
Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
Not if its ICMP.
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