Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-20 Thread Bob McGwier
Most people don't know that units like the Efratom FRK FM the laser to keep it on frequency in a simple control loop and this can cause issues depending on your use case. The other thing that most don't realize is their is a difference between stability and accuracy. You'd ideally like both to

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-19 Thread Jerry Flanders
I think the most important thing to remember in the Rb vs GPSDO debate is that without some other standard like a GPSDO or better to compare to or calibrate against, you never know that your Rb oscillator is actually on-freq. The LPRO-101 has an adjustment to vary its freq. How would I know

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-19 Thread Richard Solomon
A while back, over on the evil empire, they were selling both the GPSDO and RbO that were scrapped out of Agilent systems. The didn't have the inter- connect cables, but they were easy to make. I bought one just to experiment with, but quickly decided that for my needs, the GPSDO was all I

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-19 Thread Patrick Greenlee
Not dried up. $75 or so on evilBay now. -Original Message- From: Richard Solomon Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:59 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close A while back, over on the evil empire

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-19 Thread Richard Solomon
My apologies, old age got me again ... it was Lucent not Agilent. 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 2/19/2013 3:44 PM, kq...@verizon.net wrote: I agree with Patrick. Just type in rubidium and you'll get more hits than you wanted. 73, Jim KQ6EA On 02/19/13, Richard Solomonw1...@earthlink.net wrote: A

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-19 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Jerry Flanders jefland...@comcast.netwrote: I think the most important thing to remember in the Rb vs GPSDO debate is that without some other standard like a GPSDO or better to compare to or calibrate against, you never know that your Rb oscillator is actually

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-19 Thread William H. Fite
Guys, remember what it said under Brian's picture in his senior yearbook: Pick a side and I'll argue with you. ROFL On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Jerry Flanders jefland...@comcast.net wrote: I think the most

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-18 Thread N1naz
Subject: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/14/d-i-y-10-mhz-atomic-clock-frequency-standard-using-surplus-rubidium-oscillator/ or http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/19/d-i-y-gps-disciplined-10-mhz-frequency-standard-gps

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-18 Thread Richard Solomon
, February 18, 2013 09:43 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/14/d-i-y-10-mhz-atomic-clock-frequency-standard-using-surplus-rubidium-oscillator/ or http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/19

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.netwrote: RbO's are nice, but they have to be tweaked every so often. I guess it depends on what you mean. The average Rb reference oscillator is more accurate even when uncalibrated than most people have ability to measure.

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-18 Thread Richard Solomon
I also have both (two RbO's and 4 GPSDO's). I'll take the GPSDO any day. 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 2/18/2013 7:51 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net mailto:w1...@earthlink.net wrote: RbO's are nice, but they have to be tweaked every so

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-18 Thread Dave
Now a RbO that is GPSDO is the cat's meow. Like my Trak 9100. Makes a nice time server on the network as well. Also have a couple of older Efratom units. Dave wo2x On 2/18/2013 10:35 PM, Richard Solomon wrote: I also have both (two RbO's and 4 GPSDO's). I'll take the GPSDO any day. 73,

Re: [Flexradio] DIY 10 MHz sources for putting Flex 5000A DEAD ON orreally close

2013-02-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.netwrote: I also have both (two RbO's and 4 GPSDO's). I'll take the GPSDO any day. This is not a, which one is better, question. It is a question of what is the job you are trying to do. It is useful to understand the