Re: [Flightgear-devel] My J-22 yasim model

2003-08-25 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Ok, I've managed to figure out things by myself. The problem was in HStab options (Chord). The aircraft is now mostly flyable, you just need to get used to. I'll prepare the package for the distribution in a few days. - Matevz Matevz Jekovec wrote: Hello guys. I've been playing with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-25 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jon Stockill wrote: I've built some UK scenery using the SRTM-30 data mentioned the other day, and it does seem to have a bit more shape to it than the same areas built with the previous GTOPO30 - things like river valleys actually have some slope to their sides now, where previously they were

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-25 Thread Mally
It should do very nicely until something with a higher resolution is available for the UK. Any idea how Nanucq Faitmain is able to produce genuine high resolution MSFS mesh scenery for England (actually England, Scotland Wales) based, he says, on DTED1 data? I understood that DTED1 data

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The Fokker100 and the Coordinate System

2003-08-25 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Fred Have you had a look at the animations on the fokkers or just flowen them. The models I have the animations are all out of wack but if I interchange the Y and Z components of the centre statements they come closer to what they should look like. And if you have a look at the rudder axis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] For Eric the Fokker50 xml file

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: Here is the xml file I have for the Fokker50 Ah I see. This file isn't called from fokker-jsbsim-set.xml though, instead it calls fokker50.ac directly because the file is just a copy of what I had for the Fokker 100 at that moment. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-25 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 24 August 2003 13:10, Jon Stockill wrote: I've built some UK scenery using the SRTM-30 data mentioned the other day, and it does seem to have a bit more shape to it than the same areas built with the previous GTOPO30 - things like river valleys actually have some slope to their sides

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread David Megginson
I think that my long-held [EMAIL PROTECTED] address will have to be euthanised. It has been getting many tens of thousands of messages a day, nearly all false bounces or (ironically) warnings from virus-checking software, and even just the CPU load for the procmail filtering for those messages (I

[Flightgear-devel] My J-22 yasim model

2003-08-25 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Hello guys. I've been playing with my flight model for a very long time now and I just don't think I am going to succeed. Could someone please look at the j22-yasim.xml file or the whole aircraft project and help me out a bit. http://www2.arnes.si/~mjekov/tmp/j22-yasim.xml

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The Fokker100 and the Coordinate System

2003-08-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:44:40 +0800, Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I dont understand how the X axis on one model could be the Y axis on another model ..math trick. Easy to visualize: Take 3 soda straws, in 3 different colors. At one end of the first

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The Fokker100 and the Coordinate System

2003-08-25 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello Innis, It's important to remember that all animations are going to be relative to the model origin, which is almost certainly not the same as the fdm CoG, or what ever. The fdm will need to provide the appropriate outputs to drive the animation unless you animate on control input only.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Jon Berndt
I think that my long-held [EMAIL PROTECTED] address will have to be euthanised. It has been getting many tens of thousands of messages a Yeah, it's pretty bad. Microsoft ought to be completely embarrassed. For those of you whose ISPs provide a filtering service I'd advise taking it. I pay

Re: [Flightgear-devel] animation timed with just one object

2003-08-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Faked lights (simple objects with red emission) are relatively dark. To enhance visibility from farther distances I make them bigger than they would be in reality and use simple shapes such as ugly cubes to keep the poly count low. The cubes, however,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Born in the U.S.A.

2003-08-25 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Tony Peden writes: Is Arnold not a citizen? No person except a natural born citizen, He is not a natural-born citizen. or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, He was not a citizen at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:06:35 -0400, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please, people, if you have a choice, don't read e-mail with Outlook, or at least, don't read the flightgear lists with that program. I know that some of you are forced to use Outlook

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First Solo.

2003-08-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Matthew Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I did my first solo this evening after almost 13hrs. Congratulations! After a few touch and go's and practice forced landings he asked me to come to a full stop and said I'm fed-up of flying with you so I'm going to sit in the tower for your last

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think that my long-held [EMAIL PROTECTED] address will have to be euthanised. It has been getting many tens of thousands of messages a day, nearly all false bounces or (ironically) warnings from virus-checking software, and even just the CPU load for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The Fokker100 and the Coordinate System

2003-08-25 Thread Innis Cunningham
Arnt Karlsen writes Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I dont understand how the X axis on one model could be the Y axis on another model ..math trick. It certainly is when the left aileron is 10 metres away from the left wing it is supposed to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] For Eric the Fokker50 xml file

2003-08-25 Thread Innis Cunningham
That would explain why the model kept crashing the sim with incorrect names for the animations. If you would like I can do the xml file for you.This way if the animations dont work correctly when you try them we can see what the problem is. It would be my pleasure to do them. Cheers Innis Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] For Eric the Fokker50 xml file

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: That would explain why the model kept crashing the sim with incorrect names for the animations. If you would like I can do the xml file for you.This way if the animations dont work correctly when you try them we can see what the problem is. It would be my pleasure to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Mally wrote: David I'm very sorry to hear about your plague of false virus warnings. I get a few of these myself, but nothing on the scale you're seeing. The possibility/probability that it will force you to drop megginson.com is very unwelcome news. I don't know if you intentionally said Outlook

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The Fokker100 and the Coordinate System

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Fred Have you had a look at the animations on the fokkers or just flowen them. The models I have the animations are all out of wack but if I interchange the Y and Z components of the centre statements they come closer to what they should look like. And if you have a

[Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread James Turner
I did a bit of background research on the packaging / bundling issue, partly for my own curiosity, and in the vague hope of helping someone who wants to take a crack at this.. Essentially, anyone who's installed add-ons for MSFS (any version) knows what a pain it is, and uninstalling them is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Mally
Oh lord. And they are going to ditch Outlook Express in favor of Outlook. Will they ever learn? I wasn't aware of that. Is there an announcement somewhere? Mally --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus

[Flightgear-devel] Fog dissappear question

2003-08-25 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Using the latest CVS, I didn't encounter any fog dissappearences when turning to the sun. Has this been fixed now? I also noticed a major loss in framerate in comparison to 14 days old build! Is this the golden gate bridge and some other cookies in San Francisco or does this have to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Mally wrote: Oh lord. And they are going to ditch Outlook Express in favor of Outlook. Will they ever learn? I wasn't aware of that. Is there an announcement somewhere? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/13/238245mode=threadtid=109tid=113tid=126tid=187tid=95 Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
James Turner wrote: I did a bit of background research on the packaging / bundling issue, partly for my own curiosity, and in the vague hope of helping someone who wants to take a crack at this.. This is a nice summing of the possibilities. As a unix user the first thing that comes to my mind is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fog dissappear question

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Matevz Jekovec wrote: Using the latest CVS, I didn't encounter any fog dissappearences when turning to the sun. Has this been fixed now? Yes, there is a fix in CVS which fixes it. But it's not ideal. I also noticed a major loss in framerate in comparison to 14 days old build! Is this the golden

re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-25 Thread Jon Stockill
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, David Megginson wrote: Excellent. Would you be able to post some before and after screenshots? I'll see if I can find some nice comparisons. On a separate note, are you using the latest CVS of TerraGear? I tried it last week, and the generated scenery completely

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-25 Thread Jon Stockill
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Lee Elliott wrote: That's great - me want - is it available from anywhere? There's a few issues to work out. Once I have a build which appears complete I'll pack it all up for you. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[Flightgear-devel] Small patch against compile error

2003-08-25 Thread Martin Spott
Back from holidays, back to FlightGear 'quality control' :-) To prevent the following error I'd suggest the attached small patch: make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/FlightGear/src/Main' if g++ -march=pentiumpro -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Jon Berndt
Outlook is actually a more capable version of Outlook Express (thus the name Express). I use Outlook. I haven't had any problems with it. I just don't open the wrong kinds of attachments. Problem solved. Also, I use the filtering service my ISP makes available. Jon -Original Message-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Mally [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anyone using Outlook Express should ensure that they are using the latest version, Outlook Express 6, and that they have the appropriate options set in the Security, Send and Receive tabs of the Tools, Options... dialog. Outlook (a different program), remains

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt writes: Yeah, it's pretty bad. Microsoft ought to be completely embarrassed. For those of you whose ISPs provide a filtering service I'd advise taking it. I pay about $2 a month for this service and it has caught ALL of the virii headed for my Inbox. I regularly filter both

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread James Turner
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 11:57 am, Erik Hofman wrote: As a unix user the first thing that comes to my mind is off course tar and gzip (or maybe bzip2). I am aware of the limitations of the tar format, but the scan once for a TOC method seemed fast enough for me. For very large archives,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Mally
Jim The options shouldn't be there. The whole idea of a mime-type (or file extension type) support in an email attachment, that comes to the user from outside, containing executable code or script that has full access to the system, which is either either launched automatically or clicked

[Flightgear-devel] J-22 completed

2003-08-25 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Ok, I made my first public version of J-22 (some minor issues though, but nothing show-stopping). Can someone please put it to CVS. A screenshot: http://www2.arnes.si/~mjekov/tmp/j22.jpg J-22 set, yasim fdm, hud, model + textures, model wrapper: http://www2.arnes.si/~mjekov/tmp/j22.tar.gz -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The Fokker100 and the Coordinate System

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: Good question I would have the one that shiped with 9.2. If there are updates in the CVS since then I would not have them. Anyway we will see how the F50 turns out. With the F50 the gear does retract into the engine nacelle??.If it does the wheels are to wide as they

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Mally
Thanks. It looks as if they're not exactly ditching Outlook Express, just not doing any further development. I can't see users switching en masse to a paid version of Outlook as MS appear to hope. It's more likely that they'll switch to alternative (non-MS) email clients, which I'm sure many of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread James Turner
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 02:44 pm, Erik Hofman wrote: Not necessary, it is mainly the number of files that causes the slowdown. You can jump from one info block to another without actually reading any date in between them (there is a pointer in the current info block that points to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
James Turner wrote: On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 11:57 am, Erik Hofman wrote: As a unix user the first thing that comes to my mind is off course tar and gzip (or maybe bzip2). I am aware of the limitations of the tar format, but the scan once for a TOC method seemed fast enough for me. For

[Flightgear-devel] Re: OT: First Solo

2003-08-25 Thread Matthew Law
David Megginson wrote: I'm curious -- your airport is a very short grass strip, but it has a control tower? Yes, but is still a Radio only airfield with no ATC. The tower is a small affair that I'm sure isn't capable of observing the entire circuit since it's 800ft AAL and downwind extends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Mally wrote: Thanks. It looks as if they're not exactly ditching Outlook Express, just not doing any further development. I can't see users switching en masse to a paid version of Outlook as MS appear to hope. It's more likely that they'll switch to alternative (non-MS) email clients, which I'm

re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-25 Thread Jon Stockill
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, David Megginson wrote: Excellent. Would you be able to post some before and after screenshots? Done. http://flightgear.stockill.org/scenery/ There's not *huge* differences (except where there's problems), and static images don't really show it off, but it does feel far

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
James Turner wrote: Oh, I just did some browsing of the SSG loaders they're full of fopen / fseek calls. Damn. Much work to be done there, I think. Yep, although the AC3D load doesn't use seek. I was thinking of moving the SGI texture loader and AC3D model loader over to SimGear and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman writes: James Turner wrote: Oh, I just did some browsing of the SSG loaders they're full of fopen / fseek calls. Damn. Much work to be done there, I think. Yep, although the AC3D load doesn't use seek. I was thinking of moving the SGI texture loader and AC3D model

[Flightgear-devel] Re: OT: First Solo

2003-08-25 Thread Matthew Law
Alex Perry wrote: Congratulations. What are you training in ? Thanks! Mostly 152's but I've done a couple hours in a 150 too. From: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For me, the first solo cross-country was the best part of training. First solo was an important moment, of course, but it

re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-25 Thread David Megginson
Jon Stockill writes: Done. http://flightgear.stockill.org/scenery/ DNS lookup is failing on flightgear.stockill.org. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: If nothing else we should first work on being able to have completely self contained aircraft trees (rather than needing a -set.xml file in one directory (possibly the aircraft fdm config in another direcotry) and everything else in a separate area.) The directory layout

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Stockill wrote: The only thing I've noticed as being a bit odd recently is that the compass on the top of the 2d panel has vanished behind the 3d model. I can't recall exactly when this happened though. This happened after I disabled the depth buffer *writes* (not check) for the 2D panel to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: If nothing else we should first work on being able to have completely self contained aircraft trees (rather than needing a -set.xml file in one directory (possibly the aircraft fdm config in another direcotry) and everything else in a separate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:51:50 +0200, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jon Stockill wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Erik Hofman wrote: Regarding ZIP files, is it legal to use the compression algorithm without any limitations at the moment (for example GIF

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *gear.org mail server

2003-08-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:14:11 -0500, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was forced to do a bit of mail server reconfig this morning that could have resulted in lost messages for about an hour or two. If you ..mentioning outage start and end time might be

[Flightgear-devel] J-22 completed

2003-08-25 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Ok, I made my first public version of J-22 (some minor issues though, but nothing show-stopping). Can someone please put it to CVS. A screenshot: http://www2.arnes.si/~mjekov/tmp/j22.jpg J-22 set, yasim fdm, hud, model + textures, model wrapper: http://www2.arnes.si/~mjekov/tmp/j22.tar.gz - Matevz

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Matevz Jekovec
- We would move each of the -set.xml to also live in the individual aircraft tree. - Then to install an aircraft you need to drop the aircraft's directory somewhere inside the top level Aircraft directory. We could have abitrary subdirectories to organize by aircraft type or livery or era

Re: [Flightgear-devel] J-22 completed

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Matevz Jekovec wrote: Ok, I made my first public version of J-22 (some minor issues though, but nothing show-stopping). Can someone please put it to CVS. Committed. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman writes: Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. Shoot, I'll be busy patenting FlightGear that day so I won't be able to make either party. :-( (j/k of course!) Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Erik Hofman writes: Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. I'll do even more noize for your birthday ! Have an happy one ! Shoot, I'll be busy patenting FlightGear that day so I won't be able

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FGFS Base CVS

2003-08-25 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Curtis L. Olson writes: I think at some point (maybe sooner rather than later?) we need to do some tweaking to the aircraft directly layout so it is possible to: a) make everything related to a particular plane be contained in a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Fabien ILLIDE wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Erik Hofman writes: Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. I'll do even more noize for your birthday ! Have an happy one ! Thanks. Maybe this event will help you to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread kreuzritter2000
Am Montag, 25. August 2003 20:43 schrieb Arnt Karlsen: I thought the LZW patent had expired? At least not in Europe. You'll have to wait until 2004. ..Europe??? Where is that?. ;-) ..for our US website, we're ok: USA Where is that? :-o Regards, Oliver C.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Montag, 25. August 2003 20:43 schrieb Arnt Karlsen: I thought the LZW patent had expired? At least not in Europe. You'll have to wait until 2004. ..Europe??? Where is that?. ;-) ..for our US website, we're ok: USA Where is that? :-o Ok,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread Norman Vine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Montag, 25. August 2003 20:43 schrieb Arnt Karlsen: I thought the LZW patent had expired? At least not in Europe. You'll have to wait until 2004. ..Europe??? Where is that?. ;-) ..for our US website, we're ok: USA Where is that? :-o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-25 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: Ok, if you start at Disney world, That's in Florida. I always remember it as Disney *LA*nd in LA. I think that your directions led to Mexico, and that you suggested we speak mainly Spanish in Canada. All the best, David

[Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Hi, Sorry for be a bit oftopic. The European Parlement will vote on software patents this 1st september. As FlightGear is a Libre Software, I think it's NOT in our interest. If you feel concern, and want to help us, please sign the online petition at http://petition.eurolinux.org/ (it's