Re: [Flightgear-devel] Does FlightGear model eclipse?

2005-10-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Durk Talsma wrote: That's indeed about it. Sun and moon come pretty close together in the sky. Years back, we discussed once whether it would be possible to actually model the darkening/occlusion effects, but in the end decided it was just too much work and too far off topic to really pursue.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Does FlightGear model eclipse?

2005-10-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Steve Hosgood wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 09:01, Erik Hofman wrote: Speaking of which, is anybody still working on replacing the non-GPL sun/moon azimuth calculations to properly model the color of them? I've done some of it. Not sure about the 'color' bit, I'm just working No worries,

[Flightgear-devel] mp3 intro

2005-10-03 Thread Ladislav Michnovič
Hello. I want to ask if it is poissible to substitute intro mp3 with wav or ogg format. Because of legal problems distributing the mp3 playing software in USA with linux distro, like SuSE LINUX, it will be fine if this only mp3 dissapears. Best Regards, Ladislav.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
And here is what I have to say. :-) (A) will a new official plib release be required? Depends: fgfs with legacy GUI does probably not need a new plib, at least I'm not aware of relevant bugfixes. (any important js fixes?) If we advertise GUI theming (which we IMHO should) -- and maybe even

[Flightgear-devel] uninitialized variables used

2005-10-03 Thread Ladislav Michnovič
Hello. Using new gcc 4.0 I have some serios warnings about uninitialized variables, that are used. I created a patch, but I have no idea if it is possible to do it my way. Can you check this out please? It would be great if it will be fixed in next release. The CVS doesn't differ in this case

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: The new shadows should possibly be activated by default. Or does not enough 3D hardware/software support it, so that this would cause too many problems? Activate 3D clouds by default, too? Both shadows and 3d clouds, although great eye candy, both cause a significant

[Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 03 October 2005 14:02: (B) which bugs need to be fixed (and by whom :-)? Forgot my own homework: I'll fix endless querying of stale METAR data. It seems to have been done for the init phase already (Harald?), but should also be considered later on. Then there is the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adding Reverse thrust to the b1900d

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On October 2, 2005 12:34 pm, George Patterson wrote: If I want to bind it to the throttle instead, can I make the idle position to cut in at about 10% of the range of the stick with the reverser starting to kick in below that point. Bad idea. You don't want the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Adding Reverse thrust to the b1900d

2005-10-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Monday 03 October 2005 16:36: Didn't some asian airline 'lose' a B767 after the reverser was activated on _one_ engine during flight ? It was *in* Asia, but an Austrian airline: Lauda Air. It was caused by a software bug.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: These questions should IMHO be cleared: (A) will a new official plib release be required? Yes, because the last PLIB release lacks platform-specific fixes, which simply had been forgotten, and version numbers are cheap (TM Steve Baker :-) These fixes had been added to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: The new shadows should possibly be activated by default. Or does not enough 3D hardware/software support it, so that this would cause too many problems? Activate 3D clouds by default, too? I like it very much to have 3D clouds and shadows and on an ATI Radeon X800-sized

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Does FlightGear model eclipse?

2005-10-03 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 03 October 2005 11:25, Erik Hofman wrote: Steve Hosgood wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 09:01, Erik Hofman wrote: Speaking of which, is anybody still working on replacing the non-GPL sun/moon azimuth calculations to properly model the color of them? I've done some of it. Not sure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Does FlightGear model eclipse?

2005-10-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Durk Talsma wrote: On Monday 03 October 2005 11:25, Erik Hofman wrote: Steve Hosgood wrote: I've done some of it. Not sure about the 'color' bit, I'm just working No worries, the color will follow once the azimuth is set correct. Are you referring to the sun/moon's color here? Yes,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 03 October 2005 13:35, Melchior FRANZ wrote: (A) will a new official plib release be required? Personally, I don't have an opinion on this one. (B) which bugs need to be fixed (and by whom :-)? Okay, here are some off the top of my head that I found recently: - Setting a wrong

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-10-03 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thursday 29 September 2005 13:51, Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Time, reference,input,output 09:10:00,0,0,0 09:10:01,0.6,0,-0.4999 Jump into saturation. Thats OK. Only a P-Part, no I-Part 09:10:02,0.6,0,-0.4999 snip! 09:10:13,0.6,0,-0.4999

Re: [Flightgear-devel] mp3 intro

2005-10-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:55:15 +0200, Erik wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ladislav Michnovič wrote: Hello. I want to ask if it is poissible to substitute intro mp3 with wav or ogg format. Because of legal problems distributing the mp3 playing software in USA with linux distro,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: (A) will a new official plib release be required? I think there were some fixes regarding the new GUI code. But I'm not 100% sure. (B) which bugs need to be fixed (and by whom :-)? I would like to see Nasal working again on IRIX. I think this is a nice task for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: These questions should IMHO be cleared: (A) will a new official plib release be required? Regarding library dependencies, we should add a special recommendation for OpenAL as this library doesn't stick to version numbers. To my experience OpenAL as in CVS from 20050401

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: (B) which bugs need to be fixed (and by whom :-)? I would like to see Nasal working again on IRIX. I think this is a nice task for Andy ... Solaris-users would profit as well. Adding to that there are still some type incompatibilities on Solaris.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Andy Ross
Erik Hofman wrote: I would like to see Nasal working again on IRIX. I think this is a nice task for Andy ... I'm out of ideas at this point. All the Nasal code I can run in isolation (which now includes several multi-threaded stress tests that work the garbage collector *far* more exhaustively

Define SUN; Was: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: --- SimGear/simgear/misc/stdint.hxx~ 2005-10-03 18:53:28.606579000 +0200 +++ SimGear/simgear/misc/stdint.hxx 2005-10-03 18:53:28.632024750 +0200 @@ -56,7 +56,7 @@ typedef unsigned short uint16_t; typedef unsigned int uint32_t; typedef unsigned __int64

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross wrote: I'm out of ideas at this point. All the Nasal code I can run in isolation (which now includes several multi-threaded stress tests that work the garbage collector *far* more exhaustively than fgfs) works perfectly well on ppc/OS X and sparc/solaris. Have you tried on older

[Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Monday 03 October 2005 18:08: (B) which bugs need to be fixed (and by whom :-)? - Setting a wrong path for --fg-scenery results in an abort I'll look into this. m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: Define SUN; Was: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Andy Ross
Martin Spott wrote: I remembered Andy's pointer to http://predef.sourceforge.net/preos.html and had a look at the different ways how Solaris-specific defines are currently implemented within FlightGear and required libraries: [...] SimGear/simgear/nasal/nasal.h: defined(sun386)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Andy Ross
Martin Spott wrote: Have you tried on older Solaris setups than Solaris10 ? Did you use GCC on solaris or SunStudio10? Only Solaris 10, but with both compilers (I used the gcc Sun installs in /usr/sfw/bin and the free download of SUNWspro). But Solaris 10 is freely available, so if the problem

[Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 03 October 2005 19:47: * Durk Talsma -- Monday 03 October 2005 18:08: (B) which bugs need to be fixed (and by whom :-)? - Setting a wrong path for --fg-scenery results in an abort I'll look into this. It behaves exactly as it is supposed to: If no paths are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-10-03 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Andy Ross wrote: Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: In the package there is a GPL-license. If this is enough, then everything is OK regarding the panel. Unfortunately, due to clear evidence of (minor, admittedly) copyright violation, this is not enough. The issue isn't license compatibility, it is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 03 October 2005 19:57, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 03 October 2005 19:47: * Durk Talsma -- Monday 03 October 2005 18:08: (B) which bugs need to be fixed (and by whom :-)? - Setting a wrong path for --fg-scenery results in an abort I'll look into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-10-03 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Thursday 29 September 2005 13:51, Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Time, reference,input,output 09:10:00,0,0,0 09:10:01,0.6,0,-0.4999 Jump into saturation. Thats OK. Only a P-Part, no I-Part 09:10:02,0.6,0,-0.4999 snip!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-10-03 Thread Andy Ross
Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Now there three ways to go to get the panel GPL compliant: There still seems to be a misunderstanding. The issue here is not a minor technicality regarging open source license compatibility. It is that this package got caught using artwork to which the author does not

[Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Monday 03 October 2005 20:18: Could not find VVNS Could not find VVNT Aborted [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/FlightGear-0.9/source-devel You have compiled with glut? And not used the -fexceptions flag? In this case you don't get flightgear's error messages, but a simple and

[Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 03 October 2005 20:31: You have compiled with glut? And not used the -fexceptions flag? Well, it's the same for SDL, of course ... :-) m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug

2005-10-03 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Jeff McBride wrote: The patch committed by Erik: http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/source/src/Autopilot/xmlauto.cxx.diff?r1=1.19r2=1.20cvsroot=FlightGear-0.9 should fix this. This is what would happen when you set delta_u_n = u_max - u_n_1 : delta_u_n (u_max - u_n_1) 0.6

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 03 October 2005 20:31, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Durk Talsma -- Monday 03 October 2005 20:18: Could not find VVNS Could not find VVNT Aborted [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/FlightGear-0.9/source-devel You have compiled with glut? And not used the -fexceptions flag? That's possible.

Re: Define SUN; Was: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Andy Ross wrote: On a similar note, we're using __CYGWIN__ a *lot* in the current source code seemingly as a synonym for windows with gcc and not msvc, which isn't really correct. The right way to test this would be to look for _WIN32 and __gcc__ (or !_MSC_VER), which will continue to work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-10-03 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Hans-Georg Wunder schrieb: ... - Do we have a place to store aircrafts with uncompliant aircrafts ??? Hi Hans-Georg, there is an AVSIM category in the file library named FlightGear with 4 sub-categories: - base distribution, - source code, -scenery and terrain and miscellaneous files. You

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Andy Ross wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I would like to see Nasal working again on IRIX. I think this is a nice task for Andy ... I'm out of ideas at this point. All the Nasal code I can run in isolation (which now includes several multi-threaded stress tests that work the garbage collector

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On October 3, 2005 07:35 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: (C) which features need to be completed? MultiPlayer. Currently, the MP still lacks the capability to transfer animations or radio messages across the network. However, since MP can boost FlightGear's popularity immensely, we should get these

Re: Define SUN; Was: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross wrote: Martin Spott wrote: I remembered Andy's pointer to http://predef.sourceforge.net/preos.html and had a look at the different ways how Solaris-specific defines are currently implemented within FlightGear and required libraries: [...] SimGear/simgear/nasal/nasal.h:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: FlightGear 0.9.9

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Have you tried on older Solaris setups than Solaris10 ? Did you use GCC on solaris or SunStudio10? Only Solaris 10, but with both compilers (I used the gcc Sun installs in /usr/sfw/bin and the free download of SUNWspro). But Solaris 10 is freely