[Flightgear-devel] Re: floorf in panel.cxx

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Sunday 22 February 2004 22:15: Absolutely the same revision and date here. I don't have any idea if 'truncf' and 'floorf' belong together but I can state that the latter is definitely present: Oh, I thought floorf was there forever and your problem could only be related to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: floorf in panel.cxx

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Andy Ross wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Does ffloor exists for Solaris? Why do we care? Just call floor(), which is in the ANSI C standard. The extra precision won't hurt anyone, and there is zero performance difference. Because I didn't know about floor() (the manpage of floorf didn't report it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Live Weather!

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: If there aren't any major objections, I can commit these changes. The performance problems of doing a live www fetch only happen with the live weather updater is on, so there isn't any difference if you run in default mode. Sounds good, implement first, optimize

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: floorf in panel.cxx

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Dang, those should have been floor not floorf. My bad. Can you fix that Erik? Done. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] namespaces

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: Like I said, this all builds fine under gcc. Can anyone tell me what I need to do? Is this for JSBSim standalone, or for FlightGear/JSBSim? For the later, the entry for borland in SimGear/simgear/compiler.h might be outdated. Erik

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Live Weather!

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Monday 23 February 2004 10:06: Sounds good, implement first, optimize later. Let's start *NOW*. :-) Index: simple.cxx === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Airports/simple.cxx,v retrieving revision

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPS

2004-02-23 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:04:05 +, Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see the gps entries in the tree but there're no values in them. Do I need a specific gps instrument to get some data? I think that currently the GPS does not get any power, I've modified the *electrical.xml file in

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Live Weather!

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 23 February 2004 10:31: +// only airports with four-letter codes can have metar stations but even of those not all have. I wonder if we shouldn't explicitly disable metar requests in the default scenery for all four-letter airports that don't have metar. That's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPS

2004-02-23 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 02:10:47 -, Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if this could be incorporated (or interfaced) to the current waypoint management code. And, for the pilots on the list, do some GPS units also calculate elevations to plug in for VNAV operation, fuel estimation,

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Live Weather!

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 23 February 2004 11:44: I wonder if we shouldn't explicitly disable metar requests in the default scenery for all four-letter airports that don't have metar. That's where most people fly and we That's all for the default scenery: m. Index: simple.cxx

RE: [Flightgear-devel] namespaces

2004-02-23 Thread Jon Berndt
Is this for JSBSim standalone, or for FlightGear/JSBSim? For the later, the entry for borland in SimGear/simgear/compiler.h might be outdated. I think that's probably true. My compiler.h is very sparse. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

[Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/GUI AirportList.cxx, 1.5, 1.6]

2004-02-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Just in case anyone is scratching their heads over this nonsense commit, I think I made a procedural mistake on my end ... missed one change in my commit last night, then had to rechange the file to get it to work correctly this morning. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/GUI AirportList.cxx, 1.5, 1.6]

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Just in case anyone is scratching their heads over this nonsense commit, I think I made a procedural mistake on my end ... missed one change in my commit last night, then had to rechange the file to get it to work correctly this morning. :-) I had been searching for

[Flightgear-devel] Linker command line for 'metar'

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, it might be useful to add '-lxnet' to the linker command line for 'metar' - at least on Solaris I get a lot of 'undefined symbols' it I omit that: g++ -mcpu=hypersparc -mtune=hypersparc -DPKGLIBDIR=\/usr/local/FlightGear/lib/FlightGear\ -O3 -D_REENTRANT -L/opt/gnu/lib -L/usr/local/lib

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPS

2004-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine wrote: This is because GPS positioning is *NOT* acurate with out a ground based signal to augment it ! It's much better than it used to be before they turned off selective availability. The big difference is that GPS accuracy remains roughly constant during any specific approach,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Live Weather!

2004-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: Sounds good, implement first, optimize later. The standard Unix developer's rules (from memory): 1. Make it work. 2. Make it right. 3. Make it efficient. I've worked as a consultant on too many projects where people have done these steps in reverse, never with a happy

RE: [Flightgear-devel] GPS

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Norman Vine wrote: This is because GPS positioning is *NOT* acurate with out a ground based signal to augment it ! It's much better than it used to be before they turned off selective availability. Yes this makes a difference but DGPS or WAAS is *MUCH*

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linker command line for 'metar'

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Hello, it might be useful to add '-lxnet' to the linker command line for 'metar' - at least on Solaris I get a lot of 'undefined symbols' it I omit that: Done. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Live Weather!

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Sounds good, implement first, optimize later. The standard Unix developer's rules (from memory): 1. Make it work. 2. Make it right. 3. Make it efficient. I've worked as a consultant on too many projects where people have done these steps in reverse,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linker command line for 'metar'

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Hello, it might be useful to add '-lxnet' to the linker command line for 'metar' - at least on Solaris I get a lot of 'undefined symbols' it I omit that: the same with 'js_server', Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Live Weather!

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Erik Hofman writes: David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Sounds good, implement first, optimize later. The standard Unix developer's rules (from memory): 1. Make it work. 2. Make it right. 3. Make it efficient. I've worked as a consultant on too many projects where

[Flightgear-devel] Live Weather! A suggestion

2004-02-23 Thread Pablo J. Rogina
I'm very interested about the recent discussion regarding the new capabilities of FG with live weather data. Please don't stick only to getting the data from the Web. For me, it would be nice to let FG get the data also from files in the local hard disk as well (think of those of us that doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linker command line for 'metar'

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Hello, it might be useful to add '-lxnet' to the linker command line for 'metar' - at least on Solaris I get a lot of 'undefined symbols' it I omit that: the same with 'js_server', Done, Any others? ;-) Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Live Weather! A suggestion

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Pablo J. Rogina wrote: I'm very interested about the recent discussion regarding the new capabilities of FG with live weather data. Please don't stick only to getting the data from the Web. For me, it would be nice to let FG get the data also from files in the local hard disk as well (think of

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 'benchmark'

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I've assembled a 'small' (40 MByte) FlightGear package and included a README: This is a subset of the FlightGear Open Source flight simulator, packaged together with the purpose to serve as a specific benchmarking tool among different Unix platforms. The idea arose after realizing, that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linker command line for 'metar'

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: the same with 'js_server', Done, Any others? No, thanks :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 'benchmark'

2004-02-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: I'll include the necessary shared libraries (libjpeg for IRIX and GCC runtime libraries for Solaris) in a new package unter the same version number this evening, IRIX users can also install ifl_eoe.sw.c++ Erik ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Live Weather!

2004-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: I've worked as a consultant on too many projects where people have done these steps in reverse, never with a happy outcome. #3 usually produces code so obfuscated that #2 and #1 become difficult or impossible. Yes, I can imagine making it efficient often produces hard to

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to add lat/lon/elev of each station to the list, and to use it instead

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to add lat/lon/elev of each station to the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 'benchmark'

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I'll include the necessary shared libraries (libjpeg for IRIX and GCC runtime libraries for Solaris) in a new package unter the same version number this evening, O.k., it's ready for wider use - the URL remains the same, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: There are definitely many weather stations not colocated with airports (or at least that don't have corresponding airports in our database.) Ahh, yes. And my assumption that only four letter ids is apparently wrong. There are stations with

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: Any one know where we can get current and definitive information? Here is a list of weather stations with ICAO ids. But it's not obvious if all of these do also provide metar reports: http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_.gz m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 'benchmark'

2004-02-23 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Monday 23 Feb 2004 3:34 pm, Martin Spott wrote: Hello, I've assembled a 'small' (40 MByte) FlightGear package and included a README: This is a subset of the FlightGear Open Source flight simulator, packaged together with the purpose to serve as a specific benchmarking tool among different

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes: * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: Any one know where we can get current and definitive information? Here is a list of weather stations with ICAO ids. But it's not obvious if all of these do also provide metar reports:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 'benchmark'

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
Jonathan Richards wrote: This is a great idea - with your permission, I'll volunteer to buy and burn a hundred or so business-card cd-rs e.g. Do everything with it as you like. The most actual version has 38791942 bytes. I'll change the version number next time. for passing out at the Linux

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Norman Vine -- Monday 23 February 2004 20:55: Melchior FRANZ writes: http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_.gz AFAIK this is same as the link I posted earlier with a different sorting Oh, yes. Missed that, sorry. Seems that 'mine' is sorted by ICAO codes, and 'yours' by ... umm ... by

PLIB on AIX; Was: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 'benchmark'

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I'm currently doint my best to Plib into the right shape that it compiles on AIX I created a patch that serves to compile current PLIB CVS on AIX. Most of the needed changes are trivial, some defines for AIX (similar to those Erik already made for IRIX and Solaris)

[Flightgear-devel] Stepping and other inquisitions

2004-02-23 Thread Joshua W. Keane
Hello everyone, I'm working on a simulation project using a simulink model. Currently, I'm running an interface using the Aerosim blockset for matlab/simulink, but the program steps/chops, especially when the sun/moon position is updated (and when other info is output to the cmd

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPS

2004-02-23 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 23 February 2004 14:16, Norman Vine wrote: David Megginson writes: Norman Vine wrote: This is because GPS positioning is *NOT* acurate with out a ground based signal to augment it ! It's much better than it used to be before they turned off selective availability. Yes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPS

2004-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Lee Elliott wrote: Dunno if we want to get into adding nav sats to the celestial stuff so we know if they're above the horizon or not:) If anyone wants to do that, the almanac data for the satellites is published and freely available (higher-end units and standalone software can predict

RE: [Flightgear-devel] GPS

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Lee Elliott writes: On Monday 23 February 2004 14:16, Norman Vine wrote: What I was pointing out is that elevation from GPS even DGPS is by it's physical nature mathematically not as accurate as the horizontal position. One of the things about GPS units is that the accuracy depends on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stepping and other inquisitions

2004-02-23 Thread Jim Wilson
Joshua W. Keane said: Hello everyone, I'm working on a simulation project using a simulink model. Currently, I'm running an interface using the Aerosim blockset for matlab/simulink, but the program steps/chops, especially when the sun/moon position is updated (and when other