Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC 6.0 Problem with systems/vacuum/vacuum.cxx

2002-09-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Polley writes: MSVC does not have fmin() defined, so complains in vacuum.cxx. gcc-2.95 is also complaining about it missing. Same for MSVC 7. Cheers, -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

[Flightgear-devel] RE: Electrical system

2002-09-24 Thread Matthew Law
To avoid things getting very complex very quickly it might be easier to take a very simplistic apporach and model the batteries chief characteristics such as terminal voltage, and ampere/hour capacity. Since there is no such thing as a perfect power source you could go to much more detail -

[Flightgear-devel] Caravan model

2002-09-24 Thread Matthew Law
I took it upon myself to email cessna last night in the hope that they might be able to supply me with some line drawings and a few useful bits of technical data for the caravan model. I did point out that the info would be used solely for this project and as such would be re-distributed under

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved 3D panel

2002-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
Hmmm...I can see clearly there that culling isn't the problem. Are you having any problems with other models? BTW the offets are from the 3D Model's origin (0,0,0) which in this case is about 3 meters behind the pilot on a line that crosses the leading edge of the wings about halfway down

[Flightgear-devel] 3D-clouds and HUD markers

2002-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, did you recognize that some markers in the HUD display disappear when 3D-clouds come in sight ? Shortly after takeoff, when looking at the clouds, I see a HUD like this: http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Clouds3D_07.png After taking down the nose a little bit the clouds

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC 6.0 Problem with systems/vacuum/vacuum.cxx

2002-09-24 Thread Bernie Bright
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 03:46:54 -0400 Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernie Bright writes: On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:51:25 -0700 Jonathan Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MSVC does not have fmin() defined, so complains in vacuum.cxx. gcc 2.95.3 complains too. fmin() is only

re: [Flightgear-devel] Caravan model

2002-09-24 Thread David Megginson
Matthew Law writes: I took it upon myself to email cessna last night in the hope that they might be able to supply me with some line drawings and a few useful bits of technical data for the caravan model. I did point out that the info would be used solely for this project and as such

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC 6.0 Problem with systems/vacuum/vacuum.cxx

2002-09-24 Thread David Megginson
Bernie Bright writes: Well, as far as I can tell, fmin() is C99 not Std C++. We could use std::min() but that causes a problem with MSVC where you have to use cpp_min() instead. And so it goes on... My fault -- I didn't realize that fmin() was non-ANSI. I've fixed it in the CVS (in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D-clouds and HUD markers

2002-09-24 Thread Martin Spott
So to reiterate what Curt This isn't quite ready for general consumption but some of us are working on it Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt anyone. I just recognized this effect and I had the desire to point at it. It's beyond my scope to realize what people are aiming to deal with, so I thought

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D-clouds and HUD markers

2002-09-24 Thread Norman Vine
Martin Spott So to reiterate what Curt This isn't quite ready for general consumption but some of us are working on it Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt anyone. No problem, just wanted to make sure everyone realizes this is still in development :-)

[Flightgear-devel] Fw: [vtp] Elevationdata of the Alps?

2002-09-24 Thread Norman Vine
A source for non-US 30 meter DEM's I believe that for those areas already processed and on line these are still free. We would have to build a new DEM reader to handle these but that should not be too dificult in that they are in a 'well known' format Norman - Original Message - From:

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel digest, Vol 1 #1016 - 15 msgs

2002-09-24 Thread David Megginson
Matthew Law writes: Maybe we just model the general characteristics of the given type of battery usually found in that aircraft. As you quite rightly pointed out the discharge curve for most batteries can be described with quite a basic exponential function. The atmospheric

re: [Flightgear-devel] Compile Error in vacuum.cxx

2002-09-24 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: I ran into compile errors with vacuum.cxx this morning. Adding _pressure_node to the header as a member variable solved the problem. The file is attached. Apologies -- I just forgot to commit the header. It's in now. All the best, David -- David Megginson,

re: [Flightgear-devel] Compile Error in vacuum.cxx

2002-09-24 Thread Tony Peden
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 06:10, David Megginson wrote: Tony Peden writes: I ran into compile errors with vacuum.cxx this morning. Adding _pressure_node to the header as a member variable solved the problem. The file is attached. Apologies -- I just forgot to commit the header. It's

[Flightgear-devel] mpe progresss

2002-09-24 Thread ace project
We were in a good mood today and published a snapshot of our current code. We would like it if other developers could take a look at it and see if you can compile the code and run into platform problems. We have succesfully compiled on Cygwin, Solaris (version unkown), Red Hat 7.2 (gcc 2.96 sick)

[Flightgear-devel] mpe progresss+URL

2002-09-24 Thread ace project
Oops, I forgot the link: http://www.kbs.twi.tudelft.nl/People/Students/L.Otte/ Leon Otte --- ace project [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: ace project [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mpe progresss To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We were in a good mood today and

[Flightgear-devel] Canadian Airspace

2002-09-24 Thread David Megginson
I guess it's not just the US that's touchy about its airspace. I've been having fun with the new Google news search, and came up with this story: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=5443180BRD=1467PAG=461dept_id=188527rfi=6 The explanation of the problem is a little confused, though:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Electrical systems

2002-09-24 Thread Alex Perry
Here are some ideas about modeling electrical systems that are general enough to handle most airplanes. Nice list, but the only item that is relevant for light aircraft is the bus. 2) Battery, nominally 28 Volt, which will last about 30 minutes if it is the only power source available. It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Attitude Indicator (Artificial Horizon) Behaviour

2002-09-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: The AI now runs off the vacuum pump, though in a relatively simplistic way. The instrument keeps track of its spin, and will slowly spin down when there is no (or insufficient) suction available or quickly spin up when suction becomes available. The movement isn't

[Flightgear-devel] defaults

2002-09-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
The preferences.xml file specifies the c172 as the default. It appears that even if you request a different aircraft as the default, the c172 config files get loaded first anyway, then the alternate config file is loaded with the correct aircraft. This means that if the c172 specifies any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] defaults

2002-09-24 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson wwrites: David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: The preferences.xml file specifies the c172 as the default. It appears that even if you request a different aircraft as the default, the c172 config files get loaded first anyway, then the alternate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Attitude Indicator (Artificial Horizon) Behaviour

2002-09-24 Thread Alex Perry
[1] The standard T instruments on the panel are the top 3 directly in front of you (airspeed, AI, altimeter), and the middle instrument of the bottom 3 (DG). Before non-pilots get confused, there are many different scan patterns and rules to define when you switch between them to maintain

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Attitude Indicator (Artificial Horizon) Behaviour

2002-09-24 Thread David Megginson
Alex Perry writes: I was trained on the ^ * O V series of scans. The V is different yet equivalent to the T in terms of its operational purpose and use. It is usually used when in smooth air and straight and level cruise with nothing much going on ... your main concern is detecting a

[Flightgear-devel] AI vacuum failure

2002-09-24 Thread Alex Perry
Very nice. The DG doesn't appear to slow down and stop, though. Can we please dump the code from Steam to eliminate duplication ? Thank you. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] New Attitude Indicator (Artificial Horizon) Behaviour

2002-09-24 Thread Ryan Larson
This is why I carry 2 instrument covers in my flight bag.. I tried out a 3 axis sim at the AOPA Single Pilot IFR seminar here in Chicago about a month ago. I was flying along just fine until in the dark in IMC the instructor took away my vacumm system. I noticed about 30 seconds after it