Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: No problems there. YASim now reports this number in /gear/gears[n]/compression-norm (should be an OK choice, according to our rapidly evolving property conventions). The remaining problems are only bookkeeping. We need to make exactly certain that the FDM and the model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: Another thing that might be helpful is if the FDM's would report the amount of each gear compression to FlightGear so that could be animated (and hopefully keep the tires above the ground.) No problems there. YASim now reports this number in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Martin Dressler
On Mon 4. March 2002 13:21, you wrote: Andy Ross writes: Another thing that might be helpful is if the FDM's would report the amount of each gear compression to FlightGear so that could be animated (and hopefully keep the tires above the ground.) No problems there. YASim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Interesting -- I won't promise to integrate this into the 3D models this week, but it should show up eventually. How far should this go? For variable-pitch props, we could something like /engines/engine[n]/prop-pitch-norm and you could see where the governor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread David Megginson
Martin Dressler writes: I hope you mean this as a joke. I'm not sure. It's no more extreme than animating the elevator trim tabs, which people _have_ asked for; in fact, the prop blade pitch is more visible than the trim-tab position, and could have some useful educational and debugging

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Tony Peden
--- Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Megginson writes: Interesting -- I won't promise to integrate this into the 3D models this week, but it should show up eventually. How far should this go? For variable-pitch props, we could something like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Tony Peden writes: I agree but keep in mind this will only get us so far as long as the gear models don't have some idea of the terrain height below each wheel. On a slope, the uphill wheel(s) will still appear to be underground and the downhill above it. Was anyone able to devise a way

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Alex Perry
Finally, is now a good time to mention the operating system specific pilot 3D model, with the passenger seats (to the extent available) filled with the 3D models of our other supported operating systems ? All it needs is for the model to have hooks indicating seat positions, and a model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Jim Wilson
Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As far as I'm concerned, the outside view is purely for entertainment since there is nothing realistic about hanging a couple dozen feet behind the aircraft in the open air, operating the controls remotely. Hmmm purely is one of those tricky words. There's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Jim Wilson
Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: the instrument panel, dubious maneuvers apply a brown overlay to the passenger seats ... hehe...what's the property for that? Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Andy Ross writes: No problems there. YASim now reports this number in /gear/gears[n]/compression-norm (should be an OK choice, according to our rapidly evolving property conventions). The remaining problems are only bookkeeping. We need to make exactly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Tony Peden
On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 06:42, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Tony Peden writes: I agree but keep in mind this will only get us so far as long as the gear models don't have some idea of the terrain height below each wheel. On a slope, the uphill wheel(s) will still appear to be underground and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-04 Thread Tony Peden
On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 09:37, Andy Ross wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Andy Ross writes: No problems there. YASim now reports this number in /gear/gears[n]/compression-norm (should be an OK choice, according to our rapidly evolving property conventions). The remaining problems

[Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-03 Thread David Findlay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It appears that the plane is above the runway at least with the c172. David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8gfQmF2H7v0XOYBIRAvWbAJ9aN6YmdPWSU7csgRP6GEyrSoP48wCggFIH

re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-03 Thread David Megginson
David Findlay writes: It appears that the plane is above the runway at least with the c172. It's very hard to get it exactly right. The problem is that both JSBSim and YASim sample only one ground position for the elevation under all gear, but nearly every surface in FlightGear slopes at

re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: David Findlay writes: It appears that the plane is above the runway at least with the c172. It's very hard to get it exactly right. The problem is that both JSBSim and YASim sample only one ground position for the elevation under all gear, but nearly every

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Plane above the runway

2002-03-03 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: David Megginson writes: David Findlay writes: It appears that the plane is above the runway at least with the c172. It's very hard to get it exactly right. Another thing that might be helpful is if the FDM's would report the amount of each gear