Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
FlightGear needed a built-in scripting language, and it has one. A compact, clean, elegant and fast one. In total there are at the moment more than 170.000 lines of Nasal in *.nas files and a few thousands embedded in joystick drivers, dialog description files, model animation files, keyboard.xml,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Erik Hofman
I've been silent in this thread mostly because I'm not very active as a developer these days, but it got me wondering why one would use lua instead of nasal. Searching for 'lua nasal' in google the first hit describes it all to my opinion:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Nicolas Quijano
Nice try, let me flip it right back at you : how telling of you to mix facts and your extremely biased opinion while accusing me of the same :) Not interested in debating this, never suggested Nasal should be dropped from the main FGFS tree. And even though I'm French, I've lived abroad all my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Melchior is exactly right. JSBSim adopted the property system - which is a great piece of work by - was it David Megginson? I, too, have heard of some developers mixing Nasal scripts with all of the various FDMs, with great success. Jon From: Nicolas Quijano

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Nicolas Quijano -- Sunday 08 March 2009: As for secret sources, they'll name themselves if they feel like it, That would be fun! But I won't hold my breath. No smearing at all, The nonsense about Nasal being bandaid for a fledgling FDM and nobody liking it, is just smearing Nasal and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Sunday 08 March 2009: Melchior is exactly right. JSBSim adopted the property system - which is a great piece of work by - was it David Megginson? Yes. For those who don't know him: David is/was also JSBSim developer, wrote SAX (Simple API for XML), and several of the core

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-03-08 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 08 March 2009: [reasons for why I write PM in the forum] - self-proclaimed forum police trying to tell others what they can write - some forum admins asking for more censorship without acceptable reasoning Sorrym, should have been: people asking for more moderators

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-02-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Adding another language wouldn't be that hard. Actually, we had another one before nasal and beside nasal for a while. It was called PSL (plib scripting language), and we ripped it out because Nasal was/is just better and because offering and maintaining two languages it utterly pointless . And

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-02-27 Thread Curtis Olson
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Adding another language wouldn't be that hard. Actually, we had another one before nasal and beside nasal for a while. It was called PSL (plib scripting language), and we ripped it out because Nasal was/is just better and because offering

[Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-02-26 Thread Nicolas Quijano
Hi all, let me start that my goal here is NOT to start a polemic on the reasons for using nasal vs any other scripting language, or the scripting vs native code, or any such argument :) Thanks for remembering that. That said, being a long time user and proponent of levering scripting in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-02-26 Thread Ron Jensen
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:05 -0500, Nicolas Quijano wrote: Hi all, let me start that my goal here is NOT to start a polemic on the reasons for using nasal vs any other scripting language, or the scripting vs native code, or any such argument :) Thanks for remembering that. OK, without getting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal alternatives : possible, of course, but trivial or hair pulling task ?

2009-02-26 Thread James Sleeman
Nicolas Quijano wrote: If the coupling is not of the hair pulling type, it might be conceivable to integrate another scripting language alongside Nasal for starters, and in time, completely replace it if one is so inclined :) At the risk of diverting the thread, and not wanting to get into