Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-14 Thread thorsten . i . renk
LaTeX is not a word processor, it is a professional typesetting tool. I see all the reasons to keep the docs in LaTex (like keeping the process efficient at the moment), but this sentence here about professional tools is probably not that serious as I read it, right ? I don't know how you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-14 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 14.09.11 08:58, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: LaTeX is not a word processor, it is a professional typesetting tool. I see all the reasons to keep the docs in LaTex (like keeping the process efficient at the moment), but this sentence here about professional tools is probably not that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-14 Thread Jörg Emmerich
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 11:46 +0300, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: LaTeX is not a word processor, it is a professional typesetting tool. I don't know about fiction books, but the vast majority of science books you can buy is done with LaTeX. If you know how to work with it (rather than against

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jörg Emmerich wrote: 1) Writer, Poet, Engineering, Marketing, etc. Most of those surely do not want to be bothered with the final looks of their design - but surely some do (and then run into problems). (I think the Marketing person here is part of the second

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-13 Thread thorsten . i . renk
Thanks for the info - that confirms what I noticed: After Installing and doing some tests with LaTex and LyX I did not find a feasible way to import the newly designed appearance - seems you really have to just extract everything except the plain text and and build it up new - without the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-13 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 13.09.11 10:46, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: LaTeX is not a word processor, it is a professional typesetting tool. I see all the reasons to keep the docs in LaTex (like keeping the process efficient at the moment), but this sentence here about professional tools is probably not that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-12 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Joerg, Stuart, others, I'll just add a few ideas, as most of the relevant stuff has already been said. Jörg Emmerich wrote: joacher@gm.. now proposed the link to www.lyx.org and I had a short look: - seems you can even import HTML into that system Personally I doubt that importing HTML is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-12 Thread Durk Talsma
Agreed ! In fact, it's up to everyone here to create and submit better images, screenshots. Basically this is a the communit gets what they deserve-situation ;-) Quick note: I'd be happy to provide some high quality screenshots if desired. Just let me know what kind of images are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-12 Thread Martin Spott
Durk Talsma wrote: [...] I have a huge surplus of images left over from generating material for the official gallery, [...] I know - yet I'd dare to note that illustrating a manual is slightly different from just dropping a few nice images here and there ;-) Thus, if someone has an eye for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-12 Thread Jörg Emmerich
Hi Martin as you probably have seen, I am eager to help in supporting the update of the Manual. Please see some questions to your remarks: On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 10:33 +, Martin Spott wrote: Personally I doubt that importing HTML is worth the effort, and I'll try to let you know, why :-)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-11 Thread Jörg Emmerich
Hi Stuart Thanks - that offer was a nice surprise Surely I want to work together with all of you to get the best, up to date Manual/PDF possible. And surely I am highly interested in integrating what I have into any company-wide release system. joacher@gm.. now proposed the link to www.lyx.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-10 Thread joacher
Am Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:18:27 +0200 schrieb Jörg Emmerich j-emmer...@online.de: Well - yes - I am rather disappointed That is not surprising! Technically seen, it is correct that Latex is the most flexible format, from which you can derive most other types, but that doesn't lessen the nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-09 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 2:45 PM, I wrote: More comments when I get the time once I'm back. Hi Jomo, I finally got the time to look at your work in detail. I think there's a lot of really good work here, and it obviously represents a lot of time and effort. Thanks again. I _really_ like a number

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-06 Thread Martin Spott
Jörg Emmerich wrote: 1) I am sure that most of our customers/users today rather read/search online in a WIKI and/or Forum - but I also see that some people still prefer a hardcopy to study. From my perspective the difference between a Wiki and a Manual is not so much about the format of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-06 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On 6 Sep 2011, at 09:12, Jörg Emmerich wrote: Thank you both very much for your interest and encouragement No problem. It is great that someone is interested in the docs. Unfortunately I think you could have saved yourself a lot of effort if you'd posted 6 months ago :( As you'll see from my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Morgan
Emmerich.. maybe we need a new documentation plan.. so u start it in your mother tounge.. I thinks this agood idea as your have a determined mind and idea I think the best way is to write paragraphs in plain text and later we can all convert... This is better than tryiing to update the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-05 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On 1 Sep 2011, at 08:37, Jörg Emmerich wrote: I wanted to introduce that outcome about end of this month to the dev-team, to see especially whether the Originators of the getstart still find their share in what I did, and concur to this change. I hope nobody feels offended by my partly drastic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Morgan
anyone looked at docbook. It would solve the problem.. but its a horrible to use.. but there again that was with my experience a few years ago doing a major update to smarty.php (had to it as my team was using it and was paid as thus by my boss) I certainly think that a html5/xml approach is cool

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-02 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Jörg! I only checked the English manual and did not read it thoroughly (way too much text. I got my (aerospace engineering!) study books last week and I decided that I should save my eyes/mind for the millions of pages (those books are way too heavy!) that I'll have to read the upcoming

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-01 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jörg wrote Curtis actually your question hits me about 1 month too early! I am in the midst of a final checkout of my proposal for a newly styled getstart. But you asked now - so I guess I ask everyone if my proposal could be seen as what you are asking for. Pls have a look at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-01 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 01.09.11 10:24, schrieb Vivian Meazza: Spelling the title correctly in the English version would be a huge improvement. Vivian Hi Jörg I hope Vivians English style is not the only feedback you get about your work here. Your contribution is welcome, at lest for me, and maybe others can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-08-26 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: I get quite a few questions from people who fire up FlightGear for the first time and have little aviation experience and zero prior FlightGear experience. They need really basic help, like how do you start the engine. I think you're looking for a concise manual :-)