[Flightgear-devel] segfault in pulseaudio code with Fedora 12 x86_64

2009-12-20 Thread Tim Moore
As the subject line says, I'm seeing a segfault in pulseaudio library code on Fedora 12. I just upgraded, so I can't really say when this was introduced, but old code which doesn't use Erik's sound manager development of recent months doesn't show this behaviour. The available sound devices are:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] segfault in pulseaudio code with Fedora 12 x86_64

2009-12-20 Thread Erik Hofman
Tim Moore wrote: As the subject line says, I'm seeing a segfault in pulseaudio library code on Fedora 12. I just upgraded, so I can't really say when this was introduced, but old code which doesn't use Erik's sound manager development of recent months doesn't show this behaviour. There

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread James Turner
On 20 Dec 2009, at 00:02, John Denker wrote: I was also informed [off list] that the code to make reversible ILSs usable had been ignored because it was not good enough. That is not very informative, not very constructive. No clarification has been forthcoming as to what makes it not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Navaids navdb.cxx, 1.34,

2009-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Navaids In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv28367/src/Navaids Modified Files: navdb.cxx navrecord.cxx Log Message: Fix for Martin: tolerate runway-associated navaids with a bogus ICAO/runway ident.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread John Denker
On 12/20/2009 05:06 AM, James Turner wrote: Anyway, my objection is that delegating the active runway to a user property (or menu item) is abdicating a hard problem to the user, It's not just hard, it's ESP-complete. ... for most users it's a confusing setting. The more relevant question

[Flightgear-devel] half-associated navaids

2009-12-20 Thread John Denker
On 12/20/2009 06:35 AM, Martin Spott wrote: Fix for Martin: tolerate runway-associated navaids with a bogus ICAO/runway ident. Thanks a lot, works as advertized, To facilitate testing, could somebody please provide a list of (some or all of) the navaids that fall into this category?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread stefan riemens
Hi all, I'd like to do a suggestion here, although I'm not able to code it myself (I'm sorry...) How about making allowing one to set the proposed preferred-approach-deg property, but not requiring it. IE, if it is not set, apply the current heuristic or some to be developed improved heuristic.

[Flightgear-devel] gitorious master tagged as v.2.0.0-rc1

2009-12-20 Thread Tim Moore
I've pushed Erik's new sound code and my code for effects to the master branch on gitorious and somewhat pompously tagged it as v2.0.0-rc1 i.e., the first candidate for our upcoming release. The home pages for the flightgear and simgear repositories are http://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread John Denker
On 12/20/2009 09:15 AM, stefan riemens suggested: How about making allowing one to set the proposed preferred-approach-deg property, but not requiring it. It's already not required. It has a reasonable default. Most users will never even know it's there. This is in line with real-world

Re: [Flightgear-devel] half-associated navaids

2009-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
John Denker wrote: On 12/20/2009 06:35 AM, Martin Spott wrote: Fix for Martin: tolerate runway-associated navaids with a bogus ICAO/runway ident. Thanks a lot, works as advertized, To facilitate testing, could somebody please provide a list of (some or all of) the navaids that fall

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread Dale J. Chatham
Every airport has a preferred runway to use. I'd suggest using that one regardless. The surface wind goes into the equation to select which runway, but it doesn't kick in until crosses a threshold. Of course, if you can find ATIS information online :) Alex Perry wrote: +1. Reversible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navaids update

2009-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
John Denker wrote: On the opposite side of the same coin, the last time I looked, the scenery database listed huge numbers of airports that were unknown to Robin's database. I don't know which scenery database you've been looking at, but it's certainly not been the one which we're using for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread Alex Perry
I am unable to use MSFS. Has someone checked whether they handle reversibles with a heuristic, or are you just guessing? James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 20 Dec 2009, at 00:02, John Denker wrote: I was also informed [off list] that the code to make reversible ILSs usable had been

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-20 Thread Stuart Buchanan
John Denker wrote: On 05/24/2009 02:58 AM, Torsten Dreyer wrote in part: Step #2 Add an option --metar= - this implies --disable-real-weather-fetch and set scenario to METAR - make the metar string editable in the weather_scenario dialog This option needs some changes in the logic of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-20 Thread John Denker
On 12/20/2009 12:54 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: I believe --metar= 012345Z 0KT 99SM CLR 59/M01 A2992 is a correct and useful example ... but somebody should double check. Thanks for the example - I'll include it in the docs. My only comment is that I thought the temperature was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-20 Thread Peter Brown
As a separate issue: With rare exceptions, the largest visibility you will see reported in a metar is 10SM (in the US) or (meters, elsewhere). This is a problem for real-weather fetch, because the _reported_ visibility can be significantly less than the _real_ visibility. I have tried to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Peter Brown -- Sunday 20 December 2009: IMHO there is no choice other than the bold solution- anything reported as 10SM = unlimited, and 9.99 and less is actual. And so guaranteeing the lowest possible frame rate? Sounds like a truly bad idea. The whole thing has been discussed before.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-20 Thread Peter Brown
I'll take a look at those links, thanks. My impression is that a good percentage of users are not to the point of using metar, and apparently may use unlimited all the time. I don't know if there is any data to support that, but I've not seen a low frame rate outside of ksfo. Of the other hand

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
I had looked at some research papers at that time, which were about estimating visibility from other, measurable factors. I stopped when Thomas announced his solution. My original idea was a simple formula, based on the idea that: - visibility is derived from humidity (high humidity - low

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread James Turner
On 20 Dec 2009, at 19:08, Alex Perry wrote: I am unable to use MSFS. Has someone checked whether they handle reversibles with a heuristic, or are you just guessing? Well, that was my recollection last time I used MSFS, which was 2004 (I think). I'm assuming they used a heuristic because the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-20 Thread Peter Brown
I was not suggesting that FG did want to weed anyone out, but as someone new to the list, I'm gaining knowledge and a better viewpoint with each discussion. I appreciate your response Melchior, and I hope you don't take my responses as being arrogant. Peter --Original Message-- From: