Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-06 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Thomas Biwer : Indeed, the problem seems to be in some plib code, since he points me towards the file ssgloadac.cxx , line 898 which says: loader_fd = fopen ( filename, ra ) ; You need a newer plib ( svn or the proposed pre-1.8.5 tarball ). This line is faulty and need to be changed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-05 Thread Vivian Meazza
Olaf Flebbe However, FG-OSG compiled using Olaf's stuff (for which we must be most grateful) is both significantly slower to load and run than FG-Plib compiled with MSVC8 here. You actually see a slowdown on loading ? Yes, I haven't timed it exactly, but I would estimate 15=25%

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-05 Thread Thomas Biwer
2006/11/4, Olaf Flebbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Could you please try to run it in the debugger and give the traceback/Call Trace? Where does it crash exactly. Maybe you have to add run time options: Right Click on Flightgear in the Solution Explorer and Choose Properties Configuration

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-04 Thread Olaf Flebbe
Hi, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes) than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org http://flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-04 Thread Thomas Biwer
yeah thanks for the kind help, i compiled it using MSVC8, i did follow your instructions, Olaf, taken from your homepage. The problem is: FG crashes every time I try to start it. By running the --log-level=debugoptionI found out thatit quits at the point of initializing scenery subsystem giving

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-04 Thread Olaf Flebbe
Hi, i compiled it using MSVC8, i did follow your instructions, Olaf, taken from your homepage. The problem is: FG crashes every time I try to start it. By running the --log-level=debug option I found out that it quits at the point of initializing scenery subsystem giving out a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-04 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Thomas, I used cygwin to compile fg-cvs, meanwhile I used MSVC as editor while compiling with cygwin. Then I found Olafs howto on the wiki and compiled with MSVC without deinstalling cygwin. For openal I used the al.zip archive from Olaf (after failing to use the files from the SDK from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-04 Thread Vivian Meazza
Olaf Flebbe wrote Hi, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes) than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org http://flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-04 Thread Olaf Flebbe
However, FG-OSG compiled using Olaf's stuff (for which we must be most grateful) is both significantly slower to load and run than FG-Plib compiled with MSVC8 here. You actually see a slowdown on loading ? - Using Tomcat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-04 Thread Thomas Biwer
Well, I cant access to the machine I was workin on right now, so I will be able to tell you on monday what the debugger reports. I am using the FG0.9.10 release version , not a cvs version and also the matching SimGear (v.0.3.10) / base package versions. Olaf: I did use the OpenAL version

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-04 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Olaf, Olaf Flebbe schrieb: However, FG-OSG compiled using Olaf's stuff (for which we must be most grateful) is both significantly slower to load and run than FG-Plib compiled with MSVC8 here. You actually see a slowdown on loading ? Didn't notice up to now (but I have

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-01 Thread Thomas Biwer
hey there, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes)than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this and are thereany ways to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-01 Thread Curtis Olson
I think to answer quickly, the version we distribute in binary form is built with MSVC and you are building with cygwin. I think it has been reported in the past that cygwin has some serious IO efficiencies due to some sort of thread blocking. Apparently this isn't a priority for the cygwin team,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

2006-11-01 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Thomas, I recommend to use MSVC Express. It is free and Olaf Flebbe has written a excellent howto, linked from the flightgear wikki. He supports osg and the plib-branch and has precompiled libraries to minimize your effort. I have compiled flightgear from the scratch 2 times with cygwin and