[Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Julien Pierru -- Saturday 20 May 2006 07:51: I was using the route manager while flying the tanker, everything was working fine until i opened the select an airport from the list box, then FG hang... Where's the bt? Where's the indication that it was a crash, when you say it only hangs.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash

2006-05-20 Thread Julien Pierru
There was no bt as i wasn't running gdb at the time. After hanging for about 5 minutes it ended in a segfault, and the only reason i said it was a route manager crash is because it happened while using it and that was the only non tested component that was running at the time. It might not be the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the binary/Iso ...is there a win32 binary? ...will any iso start up under *nix?

[Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Julien Pierru -- Saturday 20 May 2006 08:38: There was no bt as i wasn't running gdb at the time. You don't need to run fgfs under gdb to get a bt. Just run gdb on the core dump afterwards: $ gdb `which fgfs` core.fgfs.123456 (gdb) bt the only reason i said it was a route manager

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday 20 May 2006 09:10, dene maxwell wrote: Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the binary/Iso ...is there a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so please forget that I should know better. if this is possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the information gained will help everyone :-) :-D ene From: Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon dene maxwell : SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so please forget that I should know better. if this is possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the information gained will help everyone :-) Every CD burner software are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi Paul, I refer to my reply to Fred...only too keen to try it...particularly since you've re-assured me that it won't try to install anything on the hard-drive (it's my partners PC) ... I've never burnt an ISO and hope I don't need any *nix knowledge ... I can try it on a P1 166Mhz, 96Mbyte

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
What's the URL to the image? From: Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:24:02 +0200

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday 20 May 2006 10:03, dene maxwell wrote: SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so please forget that I should know better. if this is possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the information gained will help everyone :-)

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon dene maxwell : What's the URL to the image? It's in the front page of www.flightgear.org : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/FGLive/fglive-0.1-linuxtag.iso or use BitTorrent. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Thanks Fred...that was what I needed...will try to burn it tomorrow morning (20:52 local and our equivalent of the FA cup is on Super 14 Rugby semi-final) ... now what I need is a way to try an AI flight-plan using UFO and the FG command line *--flight-plan=* option ;-) :-D ene

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Icing

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
I forgot to add some URLs which may be useful for modeling ice in FG. This one ( http://www.auf.asn.au/meteorology/section10.html ) has a nice diagram that shows the ice accretion in mm on a small probe for the air miles flown, in clouds with liquid water content varying from 0.2 g/m³ to 1.5

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Dave Culp
On Saturday 20 May 2006 03:59 am, dene maxwell wrote: ... now what I need is a way to try an AI flight-plan using UFO and the FG command line *--flight-plan=* option ;-) As far as I know the --flight-plan=* option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each entry of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] route manager crash

2006-05-20 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Saturday 20 May 2006 06:51, Julien Pierru wrote: I was using the route manager while flying the tanker, everything was working fine until i opened the select an airport from the list box, then FG hang... I haven't tried to reproduce it yet. This was happening here yesterday morning - no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi Dave so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat format, relative path etc I would like to test an AI flight-plan with the UFO so I can track it using Atlas cheers :-D ene PS 6% of the ISO downloaded.could be a long night...my ISP's cable 'net is

[Flightgear-devel] Air to Air Refuelling Howto

2006-05-20 Thread AJ MacLeod
Hi all, Vivian has done quite a bit of work recently improving and extending the air-air refuelling operations in flightgear. Since this is an area of FG which it seems few people ever find or manage to use, we thought some documentation might be in order. Attached then is a brief howto

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* dene maxwell -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:27: so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat format, relative path etc a flightplan is a simple text file with one waypoint per line, whereby waypoints in 0.9.8 are (airport|fix|nav). For example: ksfo koak ebase ak

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:34: a flightplan is a simple text file with one waypoint per line, whereby waypoints in 0.9.8 are (airport|fix|nav). For example: ksfo [...] Err ... in 0.9.8 the waypoints need to be in upper case letters: KSFO KOAK ... m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Dave Culp
On Saturday 20 May 2006 04:27 am, dene maxwell wrote: so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat format, relative path etc As far as I know the --flight-plan=* option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each entry of the scenario

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
so the AI flight-plan *.xml format can't be used for *aircraft* flight-plans (ie those specified on the commandline) ?. BUGGER!!! :-)... I suppose that would be too simple :-} but then again nothing worth-while is easy eh? will persevere with what I got... thanks for your comments

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
sorta what I gathered Melchiors reply comfirmed it as I say ..nothing worthwhile is easy... thanks for the reply :-D ene From: Dave Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel]

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* dene maxwell -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:44: so the AI flight-plan *.xml format can't be used for *aircraft* flight-plans (ie those specified on the commandline) ? Not directly, but this should be easy to convert. But then again, you need fgfs/cvs for altitude support, and without that it

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
To all who replied on this...thanks for the support...I realise 098a is strictly not devel material but your help is really appreciated.. ...I always endeavour to return that which is offered... it might not be 100% sometimes but you guys will always get the best I can do... Cheers and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Martin Spott
dene maxwell wrote: OK... I'll give it a go...I get the FGLive url from the archives (if they're behaving) and let you know the results. You could also get the URL from the FlightGear web site :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Durk Talsma
Dave Culp wrote: As far as I know the --flight-plan=* option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each entry of the scenario file. Yep, that's correct. The --flight-plan option refers to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] type flightplan for the user controlled aircraft.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Pigeon
I've put together a simple page for FGLive, might be useful for those who's still confused or have no idea what it is... http://pigeond.net/flightgear/fglive.html Pigeon. ...is there a win32 binary? ...will any iso start up under *nix? ... treat me as a newbie (to FGlive

[Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AJ MacLeod -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:25: just trying to move to another airport with the list box was enough to get a segfault. Yes, this was a bug that I had introduced recently. An airport-list was wrongly interpreted as a list, and so its non-existent update() method called. Fixed. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 20 May 2006 13:35:19 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK... I'll give it a go...I get the FGLive url from the archives (if they're behaving) and let you know the results. btw ... i want to test an AI flight-plan using the ufo ..whatever, just try ' fgfs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 20 May 2006 20:38:43 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Paul, I refer to my reply to Fred...only too keen to try it...particularly since you've re-assured me that it won't try to install anything on the hard-drive (it's my partners PC) ... I've never burnt an ISO

[Flightgear-devel] FG Pilot Model

2006-05-20 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
Hi All, I've created a simple generic pilot model for civilian aircraft, based on Dave Perry's self-portrait/sculpture/model for the PA24-250. It's available as a patch from http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/pilot.tar.gz, and it is designed to be placed in the data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d

[Flightgear-devel] Update to the C-182

2006-05-20 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
Hi All, I've been working on an update to the c182. Improvements over previous version: - Increase in texture resolution and improved textures. Now has a nice blue pin-stripe down the side. - Minor model improvements - pitot tube, wing struts, exhausts, cowl-flaps, re-size of controls. -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Patch to add ... to menu bar

2006-05-20 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Anyone else tried it and decided whether this is a good idea or not? I've gotten quite used to it since it's been on my machine ;) I like it - good idea. Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Patch to add ... to menu bar

2006-05-20 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
--- Melchior FRANZ rote: * Buchanan, Stuart -- Wednesday 26 April 2006 19:46: I've modified the menu bar so that all menu entries that display a dialog box have ... at the end of them, so Load becomes Load... etc. At first I agreed that this would be desirable. It's a standard among GUI

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG Pilot Model

2006-05-20 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
--- Buchanan, Stuart wrote: Hi All, I've created a simple generic pilot model for civilian aircraft, based on Dave Perry's self-portrait/sculpture/model for the PA24-250. It's available as a patch from http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/pilot.tar.gz, and it is designed to be placed

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] plib libpuaux puaComboBox

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
For those not following the flightgear-cvslogs list: as plib/cvs finally removed some widgets that were marked deprecated since a few years, we switched to the new and recommended replacements (that are in plib since 1.8.4), for example puComboBox to puaComboBox. After the switch it turned out

[Flightgear-devel] AAR

2006-05-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hi, AAR is fun, if a little tricky. These screen shots were taken with an AI tanker. ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre.dyndns.org/fgfs/Screen-shots/KC135-KC135-1.jpg ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre.dyndns.org/fgfs/Screen-shots/KC135-cockpit.jpg The KC135 is AAR capable so a full fuel load was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi, Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses 98SE and is less prone to crashes than the P4 using Win Me. The P1 can usually drag 70KB/s out of the 2Mb/s SDSL cable connection but using the link provided it only gets to a little over 20KB/s... consequently downloding

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:39:17 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses 98SE and is less prone to crashes than the P4 using Win Me. The P1 can usually drag 70KB/s out

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 13:09:17 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:39:17 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses 98SE and is less

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 05:43:11 +0200, Arnt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..that fancy FGBenchmark-0.0.6-4-FGL line should be: ' fgfs --aircraft=c172p --airport=KSFO \ ..snip. --prop:/controls/gear/brake-parking=1.0 \ --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true ', ..weird, now it appears to work