Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-05-01 Thread Vadym Kukhtin
2011/4/30 Durk Talsma durkt...@gmail.com http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7455889/1/GroundNetVisualizations?h=190860 cheers, Durk Very impressive! I do some work with marshallers and markings, and it is a dream to see groundnet in FG not only taxidraw. -- --- WBR, Vadym.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-30 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi All, On 12 Apr 2011, at 23:28, Bertrand Coconnier wrote: This looks very exciting ! Just a quick progress report: This morning, I managed to perform my first ATC controlled taxi to the runway at EHAM, including navigating through a number of situations where my user controlled

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-15 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:52:30 Durk Talsma wrote: Oh, and just hitting the send button a little too early, I had wanted to add that Martin Spott pointed me that the possibilities of using the new HLA layer for this purpose. I'm currently not familiar with HLA myself to comment on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-15 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Thursday, April 14, 2011 06:07:18 cas...@mminternet.com wrote: Agree with the first part about hacking, but disagree with the second idea of cost HLA is a follow-on to DIS and SimNet developed by DARPA and would require either an extensive rewrite of FG to be HLA (Stanag 4603)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-14 Thread Harry Campigli
Unfortunately introducing real world AI is not only awkward from the maintainability with different sources point of view. Its best kept as separate from FG as possible in my view. It clashes with scheduled AI aircraft, in that they can appear twice and cant do as good a job in the sim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-14 Thread Torsten Dreyer
HLA is a follow-on to DIS and SimNet developed by DARPA and would require either an extensive rewrite of FG to be HLA (Stanag 4603) compliant or a wrapper function, In addition, there is a thing called Run-Time Infrastructure (RTI) that handles the federates interfaces Matthias Fröhlich added

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-14 Thread Harry Campigli
Thanks for the links Torsten, I need to upgrade from git 2.2 release to current to play with this, I have spend the last few hours since your post digging into HLA. As there is so much on the move here I was unaware of, best for now i confine myself to a routine to parse ads-b data. Harry

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi John, On 12 Apr 2011, at 23:58, cas...@mminternet.com wrote: Hi Durk, Just a thought... Is it possible to design/redesign the AI stuff so that it propogates across multiple computers or cores via some IPC process -- most likely sockets. Shared memory would be ideal, but not sure how

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Durk Talsma
On 12 Apr 2011, at 23:58, cas...@mminternet.com wrote: Hi Durk, Just a thought... Is it possible to design/redesign the AI stuff so that it propogates across multiple computers or cores via some IPC process -- most likely sockets. Shared memory would be ideal, but not sure how MS or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Harry Campigli
Hi Durk, I also have a sim built of multiple machines and would add support to Johns comments about a socket to feed or maybe even just sync AI to other machines. The other consideration possibility is allowing for a mechanism in future feeding external live AI sources, for instance I have an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Martin Spott
Harry Campigli wrote: I also have a sim built of multiple machines and would add support to Johns comments about a socket to feed or maybe even just sync AI to other machines. Folks, just from a design point of view: The more custom shortcut's are being added now, the more burdensome it will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread castle
Harry Campigli wrote: I also have a sim built of multiple machines and would add support to Johns comments about a socket to feed or maybe even just sync AI to other machines. The other consideration possibility is allowing for a mechanism in future feeding external live AI sources, for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Martin Spott
cas...@mminternet.com wrote: However, a quick search indicates there is an open source HLA on sourceforge License is Apache License V2.0, no idea how that compare to GPL or LGPL, but might be worth a look-see. Whatever, it is going to take time and effort (cost) to make FG compliant [...]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-12 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2011/4/12 Durk Talsma durkt...@gmail.com: Hi All, after a slightly longer than expected break from FlightGear, I started picking up coding again about a week or two ago. I am currently working integrating the AIModels based traffic system with an ATC system in which the user can also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-12 Thread castle
Hi Durk, Just a thought... Is it possible to design/redesign the AI stuff so that it propogates across multiple computers or cores via some IPC process -- most likely sockets. Shared memory would be ideal, but not sure how MS or Mac would handle that. On my 747, running with a quad core I5