Hi Rod,
Thanks for the lesson! I think I got it. So the restriction only carries
to the following line and then you start over fresh right? Not to the
rest of the poem right? and when you say not *followed* by as in next
(in order) you find a word that has an E, but not followed by a P:
does
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Mesostics:
repressive guidance
hey rod, does this work? I
took a found phrase from
some spam mail (repressive guidance) then I used
Sure, no prob. These thing are sometimes easier to present in person.
Remember these are the two kinds:
• 50 percent mesostics: between any two mesoletters, you can't have
the second
and
• 100 percent mesostics: between any two mesoletters, you can't have
either.
Let's use The
Thanks so much for going into this in patient detail.
I needed that.
j.
--- Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, no prob. These thing are sometimes easier to
present in person.
Remember these are the two kinds:
50 percent mesostics: between any two mesoletters,
you can't have
On 2006 May 20, at 2:22 AM, Cecil Touchon wrote:
You say it 'implies the context of the original without
including all of the words.
So are you saying that you would leave out anywords from a found
phrase that has the offending letter and otherwise keep the other
words?
No, you
On 2006 May 20, at 3:12 AM, Cecil Touchon wrote:
I also like including a few words of my own [in the brackets]
that, for me, gives a little extra touch of direction like adding
shading to a form to force it to go behind or in front of something
else or inclide it to flow in this or that
It is wonDerful
I must acCept your Haiku
Let's botH move on now
;-)
Allan
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On 2006 May 20, at 11:04 AM, Allan Revich wrote:
It is wonDerful
I must acCept your Haiku
Let's botH move on now
;-)
Yes, of course!
What does IDICHLH refer to?
Rod
just having some fun
it's a random acrostic
a randomostic?
A!!an
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On 2006 May 20, at 11:04
http://www.stephendrury.com/Writings/texts/Mode100/mesostic.htm
MESOSTIC a
technique used by Cage for writing texts. A new text is developed around
the letters of a key text (a person's name, the subject of the
text, or an opening phrase, such as, in the original vocal version of Eight
"I have found a variety of ways of writing mesostic[s.]" -- CageYes, and I have at least 9 ways myself,and after one uses these methods to extract the text,it is then arranged in a mesostic form - 2 kinds only - (which was given a specific definition by it's creator)."...if you are new to Cage's
Also, there's this line at the link that you sent:"...They must, however, obey the non-repeating letter rule..."R~~---Now playing: Hermann Nitsch - Harmoniumwerk Vol. 11
hey rod, does this work? I took a found phrase from some spam mail
(repressive
guidance) then I used it as a search term in google then I took
one phrase from each resultant web page in the order that they were
returned as results finding a phrase that I liked and that contained
the spinal
Rod,
The point that I am trying to make is not that I am right or that you
(or anybody else) is wrong. The point is that the beauty in Fluxus is that it
thrives on diversity and difference rather than on dogma and rigidity. I think
that Cage was a genius and that his methods, means, and
Cecil,
That is very cool!
It will stay that way in my head whether
it works or not ;-)
Allan
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I
have found a variety of ways of writing mesostic[s.] -- Cage
Yes, and
I
Hi Cecil,
The first word Reparation can't be used because it already contains
your next letter E (rEparation). You can't have any words that
already have the following meso letter.
I don't know what your original text was, so I can't do what you
wanted to do, BUT I can create a mesostic
On 2006 May 19, at 3:46 PM, Allan Revich wrote:
The point that I am trying to make is not that I am right or that
you (or anybody else) is wrong. The point is that the beauty in
Fluxus is that it thrives on diversity and difference rather than
on dogma and rigidity. I think that Cage was
On 2006 May 19, at 4:02 PM, Allan Revich wrote:BTW None of the definitions are “mine” in any shape way or form. I have never written a mesostic and I feel no urgent need to do so. I really liked the mesostic poem presented by Madawg. I hope she writes more of them soon and is still willing to
Also, I will say too that it's sometimes difficult to line up all of
the mesoletters in a straight line,
but Cage's directions allowed the text to be written horizontally too:
ouR govErnment inausPicious to libeRty Engage in counterproductive,
immoral baSed fundamentalS In
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