Craig wrote:
I have found some tangential connections between Fluxus folks and
Letterists (etc), but nothing really literal (any avtual
connections -- letters/collaborations/meetings? -- that anyone
might know about between Fluxus and CoBrA).
Between Fluxus and Cobra, I d'on't know anything,
Dear Ken, dear Sol,
I' found this quote outof Dick Higgins'
"Boredom and Danger" (in Foewombwhnw), and thought it would be of some
help...
"But it is still a very long way from the musical
expressionism, which merely denies that the entertainment are at all to a point,
to the situation in
that Cage was the great rediscoverer of Satie as soon as in the thirties
Americans. How was it possible that he got forgotten und how unique was
he ?
I think there is a permanent stream, how would you see the french
filmmakers ?
Speaking of moviesand zen
Sorry for this Heiko, but
hi everyone,
i would very much appreciate knowing where i can find 'boredom and danger'
by higgins.
thank you,
joshthorpe.com
It was published in Foewombhnw, a Dick Higgins essays and critics book,
Something Else Press, 1966 or1967, I can't remelmber exactly right now.
Even in his day, I think Mozart had a publisher. And his music wouldn't
have
survived if it hadn't been written down on paper.
Still, his music was legitimately "released" and later embraced by the
public
all without the assistance of "cover art" which was my point. To feel a
sense
of
i just ordered "the four suits" by knowles, patterson, corner, and schmit
for $25 US from another bookseller. we'll see how it turns out.
I found it less interesting. I've just bought myself Manifestos 1966, also
published by Dick and the SEPress. Great, great, great, contributions.
By the
-
Josh
You mean "Meaningless Work" right? It's also in An Anthology. I think I
have
a copy of it on file which I could email to you if you like.
RA
if ever it wasn't to har to send a copy to me too...
Bertrand. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way, may be we could begin some online fluxus
THREE AQUEOUS EVENTS
ice
water
steam
It's George Brecht
What is the exact wording of one of Eric Andresens 'Opera Instruction',
which according to my mind goes like this:
do try to and/or not to do something significant.
There it is:
Opera Instruction
Do and/or don't do something
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De : Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi 20 avril 2000 14:15
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus History (Gutai Group)
Heiko's thoughts on pre-Fluxus Fluxus remind me that I always wondered
what
contact if any was made between artists that
Dear all,
I'm trying to send a poetry submission as an attachment (some
random use of my scanner) but it doesn't appear on the list (even though it's
the second time i send it). Is there anything wrong with those rtf files
and the server?
By the way,i'd like to inform all the fluxlisters of
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De : R.Gancie/C.Parcelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : vendredi 23 juin 2000 00:51
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: Breton removed?
One particularly
memorable piece from that show was the French guy who canned his own
feces
and sold it as "artist's
I don't think the Dadaists felt themselves
privledged, i.e. "card-carrying members of the Dada Club," to be able to
do
such things
You might be right, even though there use to be a real club Dada, in Berlin
I think, as far as someone like Kurt Schwitters was clearly refused to enter
in in 1919
Even your now-dead high-fluxist-priest
advocated censuring my ideas online... and all this I don't mind but ONLY
if the lists are truly open, free and democratic.
Free Fluxlist Now!
/:b
FREE BRAD BRACE NOW!! LET HIM GO OUT OF THIS CENSURED PLACE NOW!! as he
seems to ask for...
bertrand
De : CHAMPOY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i'm trying to make artworks out of my feces by trying
to eat different kinds of foods and drinking some
edible coloringsany suggestions what other kinds
of food that i might eat to produce such a very
interesting effect on my feces.
-champoy
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De : David Baptiste Chirot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
She
recounts walking with Picasso thrugh the streets of war time Paris (First
World War) and seeing camouflaged tanks--
"we have already done that" Picasso says--in reference to Cubism.
Likewise Marinetti's Futurist
I also think of Roman Opalka, who is making his 1- infinite, 1965, which is
a continuous counting work, started by one, two, three, four, five etc. ad
infinitum. He writes the numbers in write with oil on black painted
canvases, and each time he ends with a canvas, he shoots a photo
Dear all,
As some of you may know I'm working on Fluxus for my PhD. I
write to all of you today because I'm looking for some documents that some of
you might have, and which are unable in France. I'm looking forthe wole
collection of the Something Else Newsletter (of course not the
.
This is, btw, a very Flux-before-the-fact book. Who has read it here?
I did, some years ago.
Really great thing. Announcing most of pataphysics et al.
I read those books from Sterne, the Journey, and of course Tristram Shandy,
which I remind as a most delightful book, with amazing litterary and poetic
inventions, and a remarkable sense of humor. Moreover, it is one of the
first novel to play with the categories of the representation of time and
I was once again thinking of which Duchamp biography to read (any
suggestions?
I would say Calvin Tomkins or Pierre Cabanne.
You can also try to find the "Interviews with Marcel Duchamp" of¨Pierre
Cabanne (I d'on't if it has been translated from french -original title is
Entretiens avec
Sterne at the Lord Chamber in which he denounces the starvation in
Ireland
by proposing various way of cooking babies to fight the lack of food.
Isnt this by Swift ?
Who is much faster and much more readable IMHO.
You're absolutely right...I'd better sleep more, it's good for memory
De : Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi 14 septembre 2000 11:09
Objet : FLUXLIST: response to Bertrand
Bertrand wrote:
I kept a long silent those last weeks, because I was moving to the west
of
France, in Bretagne, and also because my first baby is born the 23 rd
Disco wrote
I don't know much about Fluxus. I know the few stories I have heard on
this
list and the basic facts. Things I have read and learned but my well of
knowledge regaurding Fluxus isn't that deep.
so dig into it
I find what I do know extremely
interesting and am eager to learn
Reed Altemus wrote
How about: yes, I have several books by Something Else: Anthology of
Concrete
Poetry, Annotated Topography of Chance, FOEW, and Jefferson's
Birthday/Postface.
I have just finished reading all of them, anyone else read any of these
and
would
like to start a discussion
Now, there's an interesting point about Fluxus it'll continue until
people tire of it.
I wonder how many of the original fluxus artists are tired of it?
this is a very good question. It's amazing to see how much the original
fluxus bunch came to be tired of Fluxus very soon in the
so, what things interest me, well many but
in regard to Fluxus I'm fascinated by Something Else Press
publicationsI
have my own small collection of them which may grow if I win the lottery
or
become a highwayman, what really intrigues me is the clever printing
techniques..
I also have
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De : Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : vendredi 15 septembre 2000 00:25
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: Tristram Shandy
Isnt this by Swift ?
Who is much faster and much more readable IMHO.
You're absolutely right...I'd better
Sol wrote:
What I do like about Something Else Press and Hansjorg Mayer is that both
use a trade book format to convey artistic contents which I infinitely
prefer as an artist's book strategyI have never really got into, say
accordion books for example..they're very nice but the outside
dear Sol,
once again I spent a long time without being able to follow the Fluxlist
movement. I must say that your large mind openness (I'm not sure that this
word exist) and your kindness is a true example of tolerance to me.
Bertrand, I agree with you. I don't know what happened exactly..guess
Owen Smith wrote (sorry, I keep trying to finsih with my late in posts...)
jeudi 14 septembre 2000 17:24
Objet : Re: FLUXLIST: response Sol
Over the last few years as I have explored Fluxus I have become
increasingly dissatisfied with traditional scholarly or historical
approaches to the
De : Porges, Timothy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi 14 septembre 2000 18:30
Objet : RE: FLUXLIST: response Sol
Young fluxus was constantly told then that it was nothing new, nothing
important, and so on. Amazing, what tyrannical old farts the dadaists
turned
into. So what does this mean
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De : Eric Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : Fluxlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi 30 novembre 2000 01:27
Objet : FLUXLIST: To Name
Dear Heiko,
I wasn't concerned about naming things. And didn't deal with what could
be called Fluxus or not. I objected to your
Dear Eric,
You're right in saying that the first appearance of the term Fluxus was for
that lithuanian magazine, but saying that Maciunas had a very little insight
into the experimental art scene is a bit strong. He organized the Musica
Antica e Nova, with people like La Monte, Cage, Corner,
Bertrand
What do you think of Postface/JB as a history of Fluxus? What do you think
of
Dick
Higgins' theater pieces? What about the "Danger Music" series-
interesting?
RA
Dear Reed
Postface/JB as a history of Fluxus is something evident to me: the
typographical choice of inverting the
James wrote:
Can anyone tell me what this is --many thanks for any kind of info,
background, etc
A white folder containing:
Participations to the Festival of Non Art -- Anti Art -- Truth Art -- How
to Change Art and Mankind --That Took Place from the 1st to the 15th of
June 1969, in
Dear friends,
first of all I would like to say that I'm really happy to see that the
warrior spirit that invades all the medias and a good part of the people,
has not reach the Fluxlist. Here in France we had to deal with terrorism in
the past decades, even though it never reached those lasts
Dear Fluxlisters,
here is an URL where you can find some images of the Fluxus Concert of
Annecy
http://performers.free.fr/fluxus/annecy.html
The concert was really beautiful, ended in a happy mess with the paper
pieces of Takako Saito and Ben Patterson. We spent two marvellous days with
Eric
Thought I had sent a mail two days ago...
Maybe, I did something wrong.
Anyway, there is the content:
hello,
sorry to bother with my question. Nothing to do with the
remove-me-from-fluxlist-affair...
just that I've changed my address, and would like to receive the fluxlist at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sounds great Alan - out of curiosity how long did Zyklus take to perform?
and did you end up spilling any on purpose?
I could tell things...
But Alan was very careful untill the end... but the end of the evening
(Larry Miller and Ann Noel convinced him to go for dinner and to let the
museum be
Whats all the fuss with Eric Andersen? I'm already a more established
artist than Eric Andersen,
and I am 22 years old.
I don't understand, you're an established artist, and you're still smelling
Fluxus ass? c'mon, you can't be established and try to be fluxus, that's how
Eric is XXX year
Dear Fluxlisters,
if you want to, you can go to see our website at www.4t.fluxus.net where you
will find informations about our Fluxus Festival in France in November
2002...It is still under construction, so it's only in french for the
moment, 9but a eglish versio should arrive soon. You can
Tintinnabulation is of common use in French, as much as the verb
tintinnabuler, but I didn't know it was invented: who's the author? (Lewis
Carrol? James Joyce? Barbara Cartland?)
Bertrand
I must admit, it says a lot about an artist when an invented word becomes
part of language.
Do you think
but i really liked barbara cartland, bertrand
You mean, as an author? ...
There is another nice word in French, maybe with the same origin :
Tintamarre, which describe an astounding noise, but done vith an intention
(like a military orchestra tuning
their instruments, or like Fluxus artists
Thank you Allen, I hope to put the english version on line by next week, but
it's a bit hard here...
Anyway, we added some new stuff, like the very nice performance of Ben
Patterson in Paris titled Dental Bach.
www.4t.fluxus.net
Bertrand
Thanks, Bertrand. Good website. Website is a treat.
but i really liked barbara cartland, bertrand
You mean, as an author? ...
There is another nice word in French, maybe with the same origin :
Tintamarre, which describe an astounding noise, but done vith an intention
(like a military orchestra tuning
their instruments, or like Fluxus
Thank you Allen, I hope to put the english version on line by next week,
but
it's a bit hard here...
Anyway, we added some new stuff, like the very nice performance of Ben
Patterson in Paris titled Dental Bach.
www.4t.fluxus.net
Bertrand
Thanks, Bertrand. Good website. Website is a
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