Heiko wrote:
Lots of animated background gifs, more or less ok. Running gags. Cgis etc
dont work and some knowledge of the german language might be usefull.
Sotosay the dramatisation of one very simple idea. Works nicenst in the
lan, xpaint, xanim and xv, mostly even with windoze, have a look
toronto does not offer much to a fluxus fan
Toronto has everything a fluxus fan needs:
bright cold winters
hot steamy summers
sad autumns
and soggy springs
here you can look up
and see the world is
large beautiful
Is there or was there alot of ppl that are/were part of fluxus in Canada?
There were some connections. I looked into this a while back (2 years ago?).
There may be some trace of it on the web archive.
In the early 70s there were a number of connections through some of the
alternative
ot;art", but about changing the way one lives and
perceives the world. What that change consists of... now there's a
bigger question.
George
Best,
PK
George Free wrote:
One thought: as a "radical art movement," Fluxus was opposed to the
established art world and its mode of op
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Heiko writes:
Population explosion -- the sudden flood of "new entrants" into a
cultural
field is major explanation of why cultural fields change, according to
sociologists of art like Pierre Bourdieu (who's work I greatly admire).
And why is french art today so boring ? The pill ???
Heiko writes:
The "baby boom" is to simple as an explanation for what was going on in
the 60s, my first idea when I read this.
I agree. Its not a matter simply of a quantitative population increase, but
of the effect that this increase has on the existing social structure (see
below).
I think most people here find the posting of such material witout some
contextualising statement somewhat offensive to say the least.
This is a point of view I dont accept. Contextualisation...
Is it possible not to have a context? I don't see how it could be.
"Contextualization" would
Is it possible not to have a context? I don't see how it could be.
"Contextualization" would only be making the context explicit. In this
case,
analyzing and stating motives.
Well, that is what "contextualisation" meens. But I think, we must be
grown up enough, to take things for
and respond to one's situation in as full a way
as possible.
The future is a product of the past, so we are always reliving it in one way
or another
Just some quick thoughts
cheers,
George
terrence kosick
artnatural
George Free wrote:
What did Buren say ? In relation to Duchamp.
from
What makes Fluxus poetry different from other varieties?
I think it might just involve hearing and seeing words differently -- with
"happy new ears" (Cage). And not necessarily writing or otherwise saying
these words. Just being receptive and open to the the linguistic world
around you.
If
If production was involved, it should be of the non-expressive,
non-intentional sort -- a la Cage, Mac Low etc.
of course Emmett Williams, Dick Higgins and Allison Knowles
Well, I do agree with you about Cage. I made the point recently to someone
that
Cage was never the anarchist he claimed to be in all his interviews and
books.
Real anarchy would have threatened his position as an artist.
How so? Cage was an anarchist in the American individualist tradition of
Of course, I'm not a Fluxus poet, and I rather like seeing the persona of
the
writer expressed.
I don't see Cage's work as "depersonalization", in the sense of eliminating
personality. ...what would that end up being? Nihilism. And Cage was by no
means a nihilist.
I think what he's working
So, what is a voice? And what is "the habitual voice"? in your opinion?
Well, I was winging it when I said that, but now that you call me on it...
;-)
Actually, I think Cage was more exactly concerned about how our taste was
conditioned. Our likes and dislikes. He used chance operations and
politics: cage refused to vote in ANY elections -
hated the idea of "leader" (whether glenn branca
or bill clinton) - his "teaching" duties
Dont think this is a good idea for a real life human beings. In real life
you have to decide and make mistakes etc.. take part in politics.
I
"If this whole thing catches on," Mr. Clarke said,
"I think that people will look back in 20 to 40 years and look at the
idea that you can own information in the same way as gold or real estate
in the same way we look at witch burning today."
Why stop with information? Why don't we free
I contend that the most engaging art tends to be created when the
artist is working as closely as possible to a subsistance level, that is,
with a minimum of "imported" raw material as possible so that the need to
"export" (and be controlled by the market) is minimalized.
Wouldn't control by
I agree. I (something of a socialist, though not Marxist) had a discussion
with an anarchist friend of mine a while back where I defended the concept
of property. To me, the essence of property is access. Say if I'm reading a
book and set it down halfway through one day. I want to be able to
Apropos "information wants to be free" ...
An article on web logging:
http://www.feedmag.com/feature/cx329_master.html
JORN BARGER IS A COLLECTOR, of a sort -- though you wouldnt know what sort,
exactly, from gazing on his worldly possessions. A long-haired,
thick-bearded former
Two articles on the subject that I've found interest are:
Information as a global public good:A right to knowledge and communication
Oxfam International campaign proposal
by Danny Yee
http://danny.oz.au/free-software/advocacy/oicampaign.html
The Value of Gnutella and Freenet
by Andy Oram
about fluxus on the homepage by one
who elucidates well - George Free!!!
http://deluxxe.com/cgi-bin/post2.cgi
mee
Roger Stevens wrote:
please reply to this to me at my home e-mail
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thanks
wanted
1 a one hundred word (or less) explanation
of what
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Please take me off the list until August! This takes me 1/2 hour to
download
and I cannot select not to open
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George, how did you take this photograph so you got the screen without
flicker?
the photo was taken with ordinary Kodak Gold film, using a 35 mm and a
flash. It just turned out that way.
cheers,
George
And don't people in some parts of the philipines actually crucify
themselves
during holy week.
If I remember correctly I think Chris Burden once crucified himself on the
back of a Volkswagen Beetle.
I appreciate brad's desire to have an open forum. I agree with him.
As has been pointed out, Fluxlist is completely open. One of the conditions
of maintaining an open list is that other's don't abuse people and thus
drive them out or try to silence them. With freedom comes responsibility to
The cultural absorbtion and conscious or unconscious perpetuation of
this model (the artist as neccessarily subversive/ transgressive) by
artists and 'non-artists' alike, severly limits the freedom of artists
to participate in the transgression of rigid cultural norms, procedures,
notions/
I believe someone else posted this quotation. As for myself, I don't get it.
Lined paper is a useful technology which I find helpful. I also find it
helpful when people write from left to right, though thoughtful alternatives
can be stimulating ;-)
George wrote:
If they give you lined paper,
I once took photos of the sky looking up over the rooftops from my front
porch everyday for a couple of months. When I showed them in a slide show
people couldn't believe how beautiful the changing weather was.
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stance within one's national culture and doesn't free oneself from it.
Its
What do you mean by that ? Isnt this naiv ? That one must "free" himself
from something ?
Well if something is influencing you in a way that is detrimental to your
freedom and autonomy, you will probably want to
Boy, that took a while to come through. I sent it June 11.
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Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 3:30 AM
Subject: FLUXLIST: galleries
As they are currently organized, galleries separate artists from
of Raymond Queneau
http://x42.com/active/queneau.html
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Ooops!!!
Sorry about that last message(s)!
I'm trying to get the hang of the Emacs mail reader, and goofed.
cheers,
George
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Owen Smith wrote:
Intermedial activity, such as many
Fluxus type works, does not signify a new combination of pre-existing
categories of approaches or media, but rather it is a more general and
crucial questioning of knowledge and experience as either discrete or
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, ann klefstad wrote:
To me the subtext that produces D's
discourse has to do with the post-Holocaust perception of the faithlessness of the
body. A rhetoric was needed that both subverted and transcended physicality.
Language filled the bill, became the human in lieu of
I'm not sure if this got to the list. My apologies if it appears twice.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Owen Smith wrote:
- the
concept of difference is a potential model for looking at how
intermedia functions as a kind of "not-media," or how the spaces
between media types that intermedia exists in is
The art may not be that good, but the community web tech is cool, I think.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2000/9/19/2458/13427
collective art (Media)
Posted by luap on Tue Sep 19th, 2000 at 09:27:27 AM EST
based
community facility.
cheers,
George
--- George Free [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The art may not be that good, but the community web tech is cool, I think.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2000/9/19/2458/13427
collective art (Media)
Posted by luap on Tue Sep 19th
This search brought up a lot of interesting links
http://www.google.com/search?q=kaprow+happeningsbtnG=Google+Search
including a review of Kaprow's great collection "Essays on the Blurring
of Art and Life" by George Leonard (another favorite of mine).
http://128.138.144.71/abr/leonard.html
To me, being avant-garde involves asking the question "Why?" In other
words, asking "What is the point of such and such?" ...and coming up
with a satisfying answer.
What is art?
To me, the most satisfying answers to this question have come from those
who point out that the aim of art is to
i ran across this page on Fluxus by Larry Wendt. Don't know if its been
mentioned/referred to before
http://cotati.sjsu.edu/spoetry/ng2.html
cheers,
George
Allen,
You might want to register your WAP gallery here
http://www.wapaw.com/index.html
They have a large art section...
At 01:01 AM 7/14/01 +0200, Eric Anderson wrote:
I still think Bukoff and the rest of the old listowners should step down
asap.
And what purpose would be served by that?
The term listowner is a technical term related to the software, kindly
hosted by scribble.com, that operates the e-mail
Actually, I didn't find this account that idiosyncratic. For example, Eric's
effort to distance Fluxus from what Maciunas tried to define it as is one that
can be found in varying degrees in a lot of the original accounts of Fluxus.
I thought the point that Fluxus represented what was possibly
Today's Globe and Mail has an article on Yoko Ono
It's interesting how this article on O'Reillynet by Linux programming
author Andy Oram
http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2002/03/08/media.html
evokes the themes of Fluxus and the radical art of the 60's...
Make sure you read the second page...
One of my favorite exhibits at the New York
Interesting links on this /. article to a text visualization project
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/04/16/0449204.shtml?tid=152
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