On 8/17/2011 6:41 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
Take a look at Landin's papers and especially ISWIM (The next 700
programming languages)
You don't so much want to learn Lisp as to learn the idea of Lisp
now, I am wondering some what is exactly the idea of Lisp?
putting the phrase into Google doesn't
The fact that a very powerful idea can be captured in so few lines of code
is really mind-blowing.
Making complex but manageable systems out of it is another subject.
I find that the bigger and more complex a system grows it gets to be more
about politics than about the powerful idea.
Thanks for
The Little Lisper is one of my favorite computer books. I think it
teaches the idea of Lisp, though without expounding on it.
Monty
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:33 AM, BGB cr88...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/17/2011 6:41 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
Take a look at Landin's papers and especially ISWIM (The
Your point about politics is so true.
Check out a great classic paper by Mel Conway at:
http://www.melconway.com/Home/Committees_Paper.html
Any organization that designs a system (defined broadly) will produce a design
whose structure is a copy of the organization's communication
One way to try to think about the idea of Lisp and the larger interesting
issues, is to read the Advice Taker paper by John McCarthy (ca. 56-58
Programs With Common Sense) which is what got him thinking about interactive
intelligent agents, and got him to start thinking about creating a
On 8/18/2011 8:03 AM, Monty Zukowski wrote:
The Little Lisper is one of my favorite computer books. I think it
teaches the idea of Lisp, though without expounding on it.
I mean, I am basically familiar with both Lisp and Scheme, but the way
the statement was written implied there was some
Old Timer Alert!Ah, 1956. I was seven years old and Robby the Robot from the science fiction movie "Forbidden Planet" had just leaped into popular culture. Robby was an awesome automatous AI. The movie was really quite something for 1956. Faster than light travel, cool space ship, 3d printers,
One of the few real science fiction movies ever made. Full of real ideas, many very interesting. The follow-on book by W.J. Stuart was richer than the movie (which is rarely the case).I think it was an MGM movie but they hired Disney studios to do the design (including the refraction of colors in
On 8/18/2011 11:08 AM, Chris Warburton wrote:
On Thursday 18 August 2011 18:15:03 Alan Kay wrote:
Another more trivial but telling point is that John did not like the use of
S expressions for programming -- he invented them to have a way to
represent collections and to serve as an internal form
On Aug 18, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
One way to try to think about the idea of Lisp and the larger interesting
issues, is to read the Advice Taker paper by John McCarthy (ca. 56-58
Programs With Common Sense)
On Aug 17, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
Take a look at Landin's papers and especially ISWIM (The next 700
programming languages)
http://www.thecorememory.com/Next_700.pdf___
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Hi
I have seen screenshots of Lisp machines. They seem awesome :-) I read
somewhere they could have very very long boot time.
Karl
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:05 PM, David Leibs david.le...@oracle.comwrote:
I wish you could have seen Interlisp-D running on a Dorado.
-David
-David
On Aug
Thanks for the tip
Lots of stuff added to the reading list today :-)
Karl
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM, David Leibs david.le...@oracle.com wrote:
Your point about politics is so true.
Check out a great classic paper by Mel Conway at:
To me the 'idea of lisp' is strongly connected to the ideas of programming
expressed so well in The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
by Abelson and Sussman. There's lot's of great ideas in there but to me the
most notable one is that all programming is (or should be) language
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