Re: [Fonts]Re: Adobe Glyph Names - Unicode 3.2 (was: Xft and MathML)
At 03:54 PM 6/5/2002 -0400, James H. Cloos Jr. wrote: Markus == Markus Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Markus It might be very worthwile to start updating the PostScript Markus glyph names in the various TeX Type1 fonts to match current Markus standards, as soon as Adobe has updated Markus http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/type/unicodegn.html Is there any reason to believe they will? Updating the list itself is not sufficient. PS Type1 font consumers, like ATM, and the built in font support for Type 1 fonts in Windows, would have to be modified. And *that* is a long term project with significant costs (e.g. much larger built-in tables). Also, keep in mind that Adobe has few math or symbol fonts Many Type 1 fonts for TeX (other than math fonts) already pretty much follow the glyph naming conventions (in some cases additionally providing access to a glyph in more than one way in order to deal with uncertainties about support for the standardized glyph naming convention, so e.g. the Euro glyph might be accessible both under the glyph name Euro and under uni20AC). Markus to Unicode 3.2 coverage. Markus Who is currently on charge of these font files? AMS? comp.text.tex is probably still the best place to discuss that. Perhaps also [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've included both on the CC here. THe cm-super t1 fonts already do follow unicodegn.html, but the math mode fonts are not included. (Verified by looking at the FullName fields of the afm files.) -JimC -- Berthold K.P. Horn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/bkph (BK)
Re: [Fonts]Re: Adobe Glyph Names - Unicode 3.2 (was: Xft and MathML)
Around 21 o'clock on Jun 4, Markus Kuhn wrote: and (from what I heared) about to revise the entire thing to add the Unicode 3.2 mappings for many of the glyphs that were so far mapped into the Adobe Corporate Use Area. In case he has already a draft of that, it might save both you and the Mozilla MathML people some (guess)work. Thanks very much. I'm more interested in discovering whether the existing fonts used for MathML include these glyph names so that I can at least depend on the names. Ensuring that I use standard Unicode codepoints at the Xft API level is a bonus feature that will be hidden to from the bulk of Mozilla's current PUA codepoint adventure. I'm currently busy getting pango and fontconfig talking sweetly, so I won't be able to explore MathML right now. Keith PackardXFree86 Core TeamHP Cambridge Research Lab ___ Fonts mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
Re: [Fonts]Re: Adobe Glyph Names - Unicode 3.2 (was: Xft and MathML)
Keith == Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Keith I'm more interested in discovering whether the existing fonts Keith used for MathML include these [adobe recomended] glyph names so Probably not. The (postscript versions of the) interesting math fonts I beleive all predate adobe's glyph naming recomendations. (At least for the TeX-related ones; I cannot speak definitively on mozilla's other set of recomended math fonts (by bitstream for corel, yes?).) If you have a full tetex install, check out eg: /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmmi10.pfb /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmsy10.pfb with t1disasm to get the glyph names. Another interesting example are the lucida math fonts. The afms are included in tetex in: /usr/share/texmf/fonts/afm/yandy/lumath/ None of the glyphs in these fonts which are in unicode but not in adobe's glyphlist.txt follow the uni or uXX name format. Even some of the glyphs which are in glyphlist.txt may not have the same name as adobe recommends. For the (type1) math fonts you will need font-specific glyphname to unicode codepoint tables. Even the ttf versions of these fonts will probably need such a table. It would presumably be useful were these tables in text files a la the enc files used by X for server-side fonts or by TeX-related utilities such as dvips, et al. -JimC ___ Fonts mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
Re: [Fonts]Re: Adobe Glyph Names - Unicode 3.2 (was: Xft and MathML)
Around 20 o'clock on Jun 4, James H. Cloos Jr. wrote: Probably not. The (postscript versions of the) interesting math fonts I beleive all predate adobe's glyph naming recomendations. (At least for the TeX-related ones; I cannot speak definitively on mozilla's other set of recomended math fonts (by bitstream for corel, yes?).) Of the 231 unique glyph names in the blue sky math fonts, 66 are not represented in glyphnames.txt. THat's better than I feared. I think what I can do is allow multiple glyphname-Unicode mapping files in the format of the glyphlist.txt and manually build a separate transcoding file for the glyph names not present in the standard file. fontconfig already unifies multiple encoding tables into a single unicode mapping function -- many fonts have incomplete Unicode maps which must be suplemented from the apple roman map. Adding character names just extends that function. That allows me to get from Unicode 3.2 codepoints to glyphs; now I need to get from the mozilla PUA codepoints to Unicode 3.2 codepoints. A definitive list of the PUA codepoints that are used would be very useful here. Keith PackardXFree86 Core TeamHP Cambridge Research Lab ___ Fonts mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
