[fossil-users] `fossil finfo -b' is slightly misbehaving (bug?)

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
hi, I want to report the following observation: `finfo -b' is supposed to produce one-line abbreviations for all commits but in fact introduces spurious line breaks which put a single trailing word (or some chars) on the next line. example: doing fossil finfo -b BUILD.txt in the Fossil

Re: [fossil-users] New user request

2013-08-08 Thread B Harder
Hi Sam. Welcome aboard. I think Fossil is excellent, and I hope you will too. I'm typing on a mobile device ATM, so please excuse the brevity and spelling errors. I use fossil for all my personal projects, as well as professionally. For personal projects, I make a project-specific dir under my

[fossil-users] fossil clone question

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
hi, `fossil help clone' tells me: 8-- By default, your current login name is used to create the default admin user. This can be overridden using the -A|--admin-user parameter. 8-- I just tried that locally (within my file system): fossil clone -A JoeDoe

Re: [fossil-users] fossil clone question

2013-08-08 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said j. van den hoff on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:31:28 +0200: 1.in `orig.fossil'the(sole) `setup'user isme (current_login_name), which is as it should be. (as an aside: the help text does speak of `admin' user, but actually its the `setup' user (and a `admin'

[fossil-users] cmdline arguments for repopsitory are inconsequent

2013-08-08 Thread Rene
on some commands one has to use -R repo e.g. sync pull push and others not clone ui server -R seems redundant. -- Rene ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] cmdline arguments for repopsitory are inconsequent

2013-08-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote: -R seems redundant. It's not _entirely_ redundant - in some cases it changes how the arguments are processed. Yes, there are inconsistencies there, but some of the argument handling relies on one or the other approach. When the

Re: [fossil-users] cmdline arguments for repopsitory are inconsequent

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 10:58:58 +0200, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote: -R seems redundant. It's not _entirely_ redundant - in some cases it changes how the arguments are processed. Yes, there are inconsistencies

Re: [fossil-users] fossil clone question

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:53:52 +0200, Andy Bradford amb-sendok-1378540432.bggbdoanfmpdfnjoo...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said j. van den hoff on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:31:28 +0200: 1.in `orig.fossil'the(sole) `setup'user isme (current_login_name), which is as it should

Re: [fossil-users] cmdline arguments for repopsitory are inconsequent

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:23:56 +0200, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Sorry for the confusion: don't much care for is another way of saying do not like, and we agree completely that these inconsistencies

Re: [fossil-users] incomplete documentation?

2013-08-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:38 PM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: question: should there not be a help page for fossil itself, maybe (`fossil help fossil') which explains this sort of things? Is this perhaps what you're looking for: [stephan@host:~]$ f help help Usage: f help

Re: [fossil-users] incomplete documentation?

2013-08-08 Thread Stestagg
I would agree here, it's not at all clear. Even when you know there is a --user option, then the fossil output isn't clear: steves@sapphire ~ f ls fossil: current directory is not within an open checkout # OK steves@sapphire ~ f --user foo fossil: fossil: unknown command: --user fossil: use

Re: [fossil-users] best practices during a large rewrite

2013-08-08 Thread Isaac Jurado
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Themba Fletcher themba.fletc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I recently got a contract to rewrite a large (web) application. The intent is to transition, at a measured pace, from a large collection of hand-written, framework-free php files to a structured setup

Re: [fossil-users] incomplete documentation?

2013-08-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Stestagg stest...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree here, it's not at all clear. Even when you know there is a --user option, then the fossil output isn't clear: In Fossil's defense: i've been using Fossil almost daily since Christmas 2007 and haven't every used

Re: [fossil-users] incomplete documentation?

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:00:08 +0200, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Stestagg stest...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree here, it's not at all clear. Even when you know there is a --user option, then the fossil output isn't clear: In Fossil's

Re: [fossil-users] incomplete documentation?

2013-08-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: well that's sort of difficult for the average user I'd say since he does not _know_ what the parser is doing and what the set of valid calls to fossil looks like. I cannot be sure, for instance that there are no

Re: [fossil-users] incomplete documentation?

2013-08-08 Thread Julian
One of the problems is that the help given by fossil help command isn't always complete. For example the help for checkin (fossil help ci), doesn't list the --date-override or --user-override options, even though they appear to be accepted. The same appears to be the case for the branch

Re: [fossil-users] `fossil finfo -b' is slightly misbehaving (bug?)

2013-08-08 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said j. van den hoff on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 08:31:04 +0200: `finfo -b' is supposed to produce one-line abbreviations for all commits but in fact introduces spurious line breaks which put a single trailing word (or some chars) on the next line. This would appear to be a bug in the

[fossil-users] simple Fossil For New Users intro guide

2013-08-08 Thread Chad Perrin
This Fossil For New Users intro to doing the basics in Fossil was a few minutes' work, in part as a reminder for myself. I thought it might be useful for others as well, though, so I finally decided to put it online. http://blogstrapping.com/?page=2013.220.13.42.53 Let me know what you

Re: [fossil-users] cmdline arguments for repopsitory are inconsequent

2013-08-08 Thread Rene
On 2013-08-08 10:58, Stephan Beal wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote: -R seems redundant. It's not _entirely_ redundant - in some cases it changes how the arguments are processed. Yes, there are inconsistencies there, but some of the argument handling relies

Re: [fossil-users] simple Fossil For New Users intro guide

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 22:25:33 +0200, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote: This Fossil For New Users intro to doing the basics in Fossil was a few minutes' work, in part as a reminder for myself. I thought it might be useful for others as well, though, so I finally decided to put it online.

Re: [fossil-users] incomplete documentation?

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:49:18 +0200, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Julian j...@ptolserv.com wrote: One of the problems is that the help given by fossil help command isn't always complete. For example the help for checkin (fossil help ci), doesn't list

Re: [fossil-users] best practices during a large rewrite

2013-08-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Themba Fletcher themba.fletc...@gmail.comwrote: of the historical features are just going to have to go. cough plaintext passwords in database cough :) FWIW: i learned a great deal about password handling from Fossil when i integrated the JSON API into Fossil's

Re: [fossil-users] simple Fossil For New Users intro guide

2013-08-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:48 PM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: 2. I'm not comfortable with categorically recommending to new users to separate the database from the checkout. I know that many on this list think this to be a good thing but in general In fossil keeping them

Re: [fossil-users] cmdline arguments for repopsitory are inconsequent

2013-08-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote: Well lets go the other way a repo, if not in an checkout, must always be specified with -R. and maybe if a -R repo is specified in a checkout the -R takes precedent. When a checkout is opened, its corresponding repo db is

Re: [fossil-users] simple Fossil For New Users intro guide

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 23:12:52 +0200, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:48 PM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: 2. I'm not comfortable with categorically recommending to new users to separate the database from the checkout. I know that many on

[fossil-users] simple Fossil For New Users intro guide

2013-08-08 Thread Themba Fletcher
i _strongly_ recommend against keeping the repo db in the same dir as a checkout. Very little can go wrong when they're separated and lots can go wrong when they're not. Wholeheartedly concur. In just over two years of daily usage I've lost data exactly once and that was due to having my repo

Re: [fossil-users] simple Fossil For New Users intro guide

2013-08-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:31 PM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: but what does this proof? the next guy might be a tidy up fanatic and accidentally remove the directory with all the repository files, right? My point is only that that type of goof-up happens much more often if

Re: [fossil-users] simple Fossil For New Users intro guide

2013-08-08 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 23:36:14 +0200, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:31 PM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: but what does this proof? the next guy might be a tidy up fanatic and accidentally remove the directory with all the repository