Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Ray Saintonge
Fred Bauder wrote: I must agree with Mr Gerard, and taking that position, or any position by the Foundation is a road I don't want to see WMF go down. I don't want WMF to alienate anyone... anyone. The information must be free, and global. For everyone. Please don't intrepet this message

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Fred Bauder wrote: Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a memorial project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his concerns about the motives behind this proposal. I think half a dozen might do, one for the victims of Hitler, one for the victims of Stalin,

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Ray Saintonge
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote: On Wednesday 24 December 2008 11:02, David Gerard wrote: Yes. However, it could be a valuable wiki to create privately. Generic hosting is (a) really cheap (b) often includes MediaWiki out the box. The wiki is unlikely to be vastly overloaded, so cheap hosting

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Ray Saintonge
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote: I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and telling their stories constitutes taking partisan sides in political disputes. It's educating people about the impact of these events, plain and simple. If we cannot present the personal tragedy

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Ray Saintonge
Fred Bauder wrote: Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality? Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery. Maybe it would be better to start the project on Wikia. That would

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Ian A. Holton
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Fred Bauder wrote: Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality? Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery.

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net: Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality? Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery. I suspect it would turn into a universal

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/25 Ian A. Holton poe...@gmail.com: I do however believe that such a project is a good idea and also believe that it being hosted outside of the WMF might even be benefitial and might even be worth an organisation itself if the scope is extended to cover more than just the victims of

[Foundation-l] Wikistats is back to May 2008 version

2008-12-25 Thread Erik Zachte
There is something seriously wrong with the figures for some wikipedias in the new wikistats reports. The figures for some wikis are much too low. When comparing csv files (raw counts) produced in May 2008 and produced recently it is quite easy to tell the difference. For some wikis the data for

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Fred Bauder
2008/12/25 Ian A. Holton poe...@gmail.com: I do however believe that such a project is a good idea and also believe that it being hosted outside of the WMF might even be benefitial and might even be worth an organisation itself if the scope is extended to cover more than just the victims

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Fred Bauder
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net: Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality? Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery. I suspect it would turn into a universal

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Fred Bauder
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote: I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and telling their stories constitutes taking partisan sides in political disputes. It's educating people about the impact of these events, plain and simple. If we cannot present the personal tragedy of

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikistats is back

2008-12-25 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: Interesting. I realize that the dump is extremely large, but if 7zip is really the bottleneck then to me the solutions are straightforward: 1. Offer an uncompressed version of the dump for download. Bandwidth is cheap and

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: Soviet Repressions Memorial

2008-12-25 Thread Kurt Maxwell Weber
On Thursday 25 December 2008 03:34, Ray Saintonge wrote: Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote: I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and telling their stories constitutes taking partisan sides in political disputes. It's educating people about the impact of these events, plain