Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: A lot of the projects that Wikimedia is investing in today are small and focused on particular needs of the Wikimedia Foundation, not the Wikimedia community. One example might be an article feedback tool that's largely focused on

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/5 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: A lot of the projects that Wikimedia is investing in today are small and focused on particular needs of the Wikimedia Foundation, not the Wikimedia community. One example might be an article

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Another example might be an UploadWizard that is focused on ensuring that Wikimedia fulfills its Multimedia grant requirements rather than actually being fully developed and ready for use by Wikimedia Commons. These examples are off

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 April 2011 09:48, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2011/4/5 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Article rating has been a wanted feature for *years*. ... And in the Hungarian Wikipedia it was even implemented quite a long time ago. If i recall correctly, at some point i

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for moderation of Dan Rosenthal and Andrew Garrett

2011-04-05 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.pt wrote: After a cool off period of about 48 hours and considerable reflection, it is my conviction that the posts of two above mentioned editors should be moderated from now on. As administrators, it's our policy not to take

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for moderation of Dan Rosenthal and Andrew Garrett

2011-04-05 Thread Sarah
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 19:16, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Machado initiated this matter by posting a sarcastic message directed at me to the effect that I was ignorant. I'm sorry if someone has overdone it in responding to him, but the ugliness started with him. Okay, I missed

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector, a year after

2011-04-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/4 Rodan Bury bury.ro...@gmail.com: As for the quantitative analysis, the one made during the beta testing of Vector was detailed. It clearly showed that most users - and especially newbies - preferred Vector over Monobook (retention rates of 70 - 80 % and more). It means that for most

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector, a year after

2011-04-05 Thread Pronoein
Le 05/04/2011 07:41, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit : That's the problem with grants, i guess. If a rich - and certainly well-meaning - foundation invests money in a Big Project that doesn't hurt free knowledge, but doesn't advance it too much either, it's not a big problem by itself. Indeed! Vector

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Another example might be an UploadWizard that is focused on ensuring that Wikimedia fulfills its Multimedia grant requirements rather than actually being fully developed and ready for use by Wikimedia Commons.

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: On 5 April 2011 09:48, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2011/4/5 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Article rating has been a wanted feature for *years*. ... And in the Hungarian Wikipedia it was even implemented quite a long time ago. If i recall

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/4/5 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: What I see is grants supplying money to get initiatives that have been long-wanted happening. The near-impossibility of getting even quite simple things through a bureaucratic kudzu-choked community process has been noted on this list *many* times. To

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-05 Thread Muhammad Yahia
In Egypt, I saw a wiki or two setup for the same purpose, but what seemed to work well is the use of Google Moderator: http://www.google.com/moderator/?hl=ar#15/e=581e0t=581e0.40f=581e0.154b45 -Katie Actually IMHO the reason Google moderator worked is that it was advertised and actively

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-05 Thread Fred Bauder
In Egypt, I saw a wiki or two setup for the same purpose, but what seemed to work well is the use of Google Moderator: http://www.google.com/moderator/?hl=ar#15/e=581e0t=581e0.40f=581e0.154b45 -Katie Actually IMHO the reason Google moderator worked is that it was advertised and

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread geni
On 5 April 2011 09:40, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: *cough* From 2005: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Gerard/1.0 Magnus put together a quick version, but Brion didn't like the code and it never happened. However, mine is just one such proposal. Article rating has been a

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 April 2011 22:20, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 April 2011 09:40, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Article rating has been a wanted feature for *years*. What I'd like to see is article rating being more widespread. But having a grant push it through is *just fine*, because it

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread Michael Snow
On 4/5/2011 2:37 PM, David Gerard wrote: Classic is largely unmaintained, since no-one seems to want to bother to maintain it. To coin a phrase, Monobook is the new Classic. Maybe we should rename Classic to Legacy? That might communicate the implications a bit better to anyone considering it.

[Foundation-l] Toolserver has its Internationalisation

2011-04-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am really happy to announce that the first Toolserver tools can now be localised at translatewiki.net. Thanks to the hard work of Krinkle the first tools make use of the Intuition messaging framework. People who know Toolserver, will know that there are many useful tools that help

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:22 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Another example might be an UploadWizard that is focused on ensuring that Wikimedia fulfills its Multimedia grant requirements rather than

[Foundation-l] [Fwd: Mobile projects: contributors wanted]

2011-04-05 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, just a ping to anybody interested in Wikipedia AND mobile: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects Interested? Join the #wikimedia-mobile IRC channel and/or the mobile-l mailing list - https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l Below you have the message sent to mobile-l

[Foundation-l] Plea for candidates: WMF Movement Communications Manager

2011-04-05 Thread Barry Newstead
Hi! Another quick note on the Movement Communications Manager posting that we are hoping to fill at WMF. We have a number of applicants, but very, very few are from the Wikimedia community. We would really love to fill this role with a strong Wikimedian, so if you are interested or know someone